Breaking from Pennlive Curley and Shultz plead guilty.
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Not one single person with any actual knowledge of the legal system believes they will do one day of time. They're not going to prison.
You're the one that keeps bragging that it was reported to Harmon (like it should have been). If what you've been blowing steam off about is true, he obviously lied. What's keeping him out of the slammer?
I haven't talked to Frank Sheran since saturday so I am not sure..... but just my opinion, there is no reason to offer a plea to Spanier now that Tim and Gary will testify against him. with all of the plea rumors for Tim and Gary going back to 2012 I have never heard Spanier mentioned in any of that.
LionLurker is the expert on the plea deals so maybe he will chime in................
So you are saying that the charges against C/S were trumped up the whole time?? Isn't that illegal for the prosecutor to make up false charges? Are you also saying that from the beginning they were only out to get Spanier? Do you have any proof of all this?
What evidence of guilt are C/S holding against Spanier?? Please elaborate.
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Understatement of the decade.
If John Gotti had their lawyers, his cases would still be tied up in court.
If Harmon was told then he should be charged also because he had a legal obligation to follow up, not some BS ex post facto crap they pulled on C & S.
Are you serious??? Fu(k our "athletic successes. They don't mean jack sh!t right now.
You want to let the State off the hook and crucify the University. You have absolutely NO proof C/S/S influenced Gricar when there is a LOT of smoke in the other direction. If you have evidence, show it or get the f_ck out.
Or maybe you just didn't want to get involved.
I thought C&S testifying against Spanier was just speculation at this point. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
And this is what 5+ years in litigation and $$$$ of taxpayers money spent on this shit show has resulted in...?
Sounds like members of the OAG office went to the same school of economics as a boat load of our esteemed members of the old guard BOT went...outstanding work...just outstanding !
Well done , OAG...so well done.
And Freeh must be walking around with a big smile today...
Of course the problem is...the way the general public will perceive and the press on how they will report...it will be "YES" to all of your questions...Joe is guilty. penn State Athletics is guilty. Freeh was correct. PSU has a culture problem. Emmett was correct. Our BOT was correct. etc etc...I'm so completely embarrassed and angry for the ass clowns who handled this disaster from Day 1...and Erickson has his name on a friggin building...you have got be be kidding...
They got every penny. Everything reduced to one misdemeanor. Legally speaking complete victory for them.
I am sure. Guess this means Roberto won't have the chance to rip Mike apart on the stand? Seems many were predicting that
No, but the OAG does.
I never said that CSS influenced Gricar. I don't know who suggested what.
I will be happy to post a copy of it here, if it is not a violation of TOS.
If you can send me an e-mail by PM, I will be happy to forward you a copy.
No, not trumped up. Prosecutors are often willing to drop/lower charges against an underling to get the head guy. Originally, Spanier wasn't charged, so they were not going after him.
My guess is that they will testify that that they told Spanier in 2001, and possibly 1998, that Sandusky was a pedophile an that, in 2001, that this wasn't horseplay.
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You recently promised to reveal your identity once the "trials started". Are you still good for your word once GS's trial commences?
He's JJ in Phila.
Really - they are going to testify that they told GS that JS was a "pedophile" ?.
I think there will be a GS trial...and GS will even testify on his own behalf.
So you knew this was happening all along?? Going back several years? That C/S were innocent of the most serious charges, and Spanier was leading the conspiracy?
Could you link your post(s) from before today where you stated this is what the prosecution was planning?? I just want to make sure you didn't just concoct this whole new, different theory after you heard the news. I mean it's easy to make this kind of stuff up after today's news.
As far as the testimony, it's just going to be he said/he said with no other evidence?? In that circumstance, why should C/S word be taken over Spanier's? I mean Spanier's lawyers would obviously bring up the plea bargain, right?
The only thing he knows is that he got a Facebook message from Steve Sloane. Which, I hasten to add, he has yet to post.
Going back over the years nutjobs like elvis, stufftodo, osprey, etc. at one time or the another called Joe the ring leader of the conspiracy, then (I think) it was Curley, then they were all equally complicit, and today it's Spanier the ringleader. Of course they never produced any proof. Must be interesting having the wild imagination like they all do.
