Well the state dropped most of their charges. And after the made for TV press conference and the media lynchings I think a misdemeanor is a major fail on the state's part as well.
Just another way to spin it.
Breaking from Pennlive Curley and Shultz plead guilty.
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Just another way to spin it.
I can't wait for this trial to be over so we can move on. I just hope that many on here are able to accept reality.
The case was at least partly resolved today, so that I did verify that I am J. J. in Phila.
I have also indicated, I do have information that Gricar decided not to prosecute Sandusky, if Sandusky "received help with problem." Gricar told someone that and it would have had to be someone at PSU. I turned it over to LE in August of 2012.
I will be happy to email you a copy. And, if it doesn't violate TOS, I will post it.
Something along those lines.
You really are cranked up about some five year old poster , aren't you?
Just pull up a chair , grab a beer. Plenty of stuff to play out yet.
You must be a Peter Pan fan. We're all very afraid. Go read the Federal Report released today. Tick Tock...
Post it here. Have no idea what violation you are worried about. What board rule are you referring to?
I've been here long enough to know that 1) no rule prevents posting and 2) you're stalling.
My thoughts would be the same as my post was generic regarding why plea deals are ever offered or accepted.
I don't know what C or S did or did not do exactly. The evidence I read long ago seemed to indicate that they kept telling more ppl and reported the unknown thing MM might have heard to the necessary ppl. After 4 yrs, they might have thrown in the towel on a misdemeanor charge, than face a jury....Or they might be scumbags...IDK. my gut tells me they got railroaded, or perhaps there is a technicality in the reporting law and how they handled that makes their chances at trial a crap shoot, and they took a bird in the hand.
You mean Gricar told someone at TSM to get JS help? That's where he got the children from, not PSU.
Before you head out, could you please do us a favor and get rid of some of the trolls that ooze into this site? There've been quite a few stop by in the past week. Thank you.
If true, I would think that Centre County DA putting this on PSU and ignoring that the founder of an organization for at-risk children, tied to providing services to counties in PA including his own, might just be negligence in itself.
No matter how anyone cuts it, PSU can't be responsible in the way all child protective service oversight authorities in the government are responsible.
You were a school director? Let me guess, that district doesn't exist today, does it? One can only wonder what they produce out there in Bolivar if you're the cream of the crop.
Unless you can't type because your fingers are mangled from burns.
That wasn't where Sandusky worked or expressed his predilections.
Kind of sounds like the Spanier defense.
A moderator can respond, and a I am asking. I would be happy to e-mail a copy to him prior to posting.
I am willing to e-mail a copy to you. Just send me a PM with your e-mail.
It isn't negligence, but an exercise of prosecutorial discretion. It is just like what happened in the Altoona Johnstown Diocese and Castor not prosecuting Bill Cosby.
PSU still knew about it and didn't stop it. Later, they didn't report it.
No, it is still there. You are free to check out my bio and do your own research, not that you are really capable of it.
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I'm well aware that Laurel Valley was absorbed into Ligonier Valley a few years ago, firebug. Like you really want me to believe that people from Westmoreland County are incapable of driving to Philly to set a fire.
If you have something, go ahead and post it. What's a moderator going to do-- you're at the limit of your allowed posts anyway, aren't you?
Guess what? there is no limited number of allowable posts to non-paying members. So can stop stalling hoping that this imagined limit will be reached, and you wont' have to post. So spill it, Hopalong.
Oh good, another refugee from the spelling bee. They don't grow 'em too bright up there in Susquehanna County, do they?
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Get with the times . Or do you need your ass kicked more ??
Good night, you're going to need your rest, it's not getting better.
Get with the times . Or do you need your ass kicked more ??
Good night, you're going to need your rest, it's not getting better.
Good Lord, you are an idiot.
It wasn't in Westmoreland County.
It would be a bit hard someone supposedly living in Phila to run for a school board seat about 200 miles away. Further, an arrest would likely come up in an election campaign.
You have some objection to moderators approving a post, especially of a PM from another site? Wow!!!'
I keep on getting a limit, which might show how little you actually understand.
Look, I'm fine emailing it to someone who gives me their e-mail address. I'm fine posting it with the moderator's approval.
It wasn't in Westmoreland County.
It would be a bit hard someone supposedly living in Phila to run for a school board seat about 200 miles away. Further, an arrest would likely come up in an election campaign.
You have some objection to moderators approving a post, especially of a PM from another site? Wow!!!'
I keep on getting a limit, which might show how little you actually understand.
Look, I'm fine emailing it to someone who gives me their e-mail address. I'm fine posting it with the moderator's approval.
Umm JS absolutely worked for TSM, the charity he founded and gave him access to children. I'm glad PSU is the only place JS showed his predilections for children. So if I got this straight Gricar punted his responsibility to PSU to get help for a guy who DPW cleared of any wrongdoing with the "unfounded" finding. So what exactly was PSU suppose to do when the local and state officials refused to act?
What did they say when pleading guilty? Has anyone seen a transcript or specific report? It sounds like this was rigged so that would not get into print.
Generally in such a situation a judge will ask a list of standard question that each would have to answer. The bulk of those are legal procedure types to confirm that the defendant understands their rights and is pleading guilty voluntarily.
Generally they will also get into some specifics about what they did or did not do in order to admit the elements of the crime. Sometimes that can be fairly general. Sometimes the judge can get into details. Does anyone here have a link detailing what was specifically said?
Generally in such a situation a judge will ask a list of standard question that each would have to answer. The bulk of those are legal procedure types to confirm that the defendant understands their rights and is pleading guilty voluntarily.
Generally they will also get into some specifics about what they did or did not do in order to admit the elements of the crime. Sometimes that can be fairly general. Sometimes the judge can get into details. Does anyone here have a link detailing what was specifically said?
His predilections were on display off campus more often than they were on campus.
Sandusky didn't "work" for TSM. He was on the Board; he was one of the people that ran it.
Not a "punt." Gricar exercised prosecutorial discretion, which he could do, which was done in Altoona-Johnstown Diocese case and the Bill Cosby case. He not to prosecute if Sandusky "received help with the problem."
Who did he tell that to? Raykovitz, who had no supervision of Sandusky, and didn't have any resources to get him this "help?" Unlikely. Someone at PSU, that did have supervision of him, had the resources, and whose police department was investigating? Much more likely.
So you're arguing semantics. Brilliant.
Gricar didn't prosecute because there was little to prosecute and due to Sandusky's stature in the community (hell, in the state), getting a conviction would have been impossible. It's really as simple as that.
Gricar didn't prosecute because there was little to prosecute and due to Sandusky's stature in the community (hell, in the state), getting a conviction would have been impossible. It's really as simple as that.
