I'd like to ask that judge why it's more likely that 7 people were negligent than 1 person embellished his memory over the years (a person who bet on his own games and texted dick picks to women not his wife)
C/S/S all get jail time
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I agree that there was no reason to heap abuse upon a dead man. But anyone
who believes that decisions were made by C/S/S without input from Paterno
is delusional. Curley was Paterno's cabana boy, Shultz is a putz and Spanier
is a coward.
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Sometimes you just have to roll your eyes and move on .....
You're trying to hold a conversation with folks who think the world did not begin until 1950. when Joseph Paterno came down from Providence, Rhode Island and began his ministry at the University that would eventually be re-named "Paterno State University."
Anyone is making a big mistake IMO to try to look at this rationally.
Now that is a profound thought. I wonder why that is...........Joe's been dead how long?
It was a slap on the wrist - a minimum sentence. I think that says it all. No one wanted this to go on. Think of it like a semester abroad - easy time. Once convicted or plea bargained, the Judge wasn't going to give just probation.
Those 25-year-olds were 20 years old back in 2012. They were students. They were students at a time when JoePa was our coach. They certainly COULD be "Paterno Loyalists."
They just realized --- at a much higher rate vs. the older folk --- "this guy is not worthy of my loyalty going forward."
I suspect this is because both the people that informed Spanier, and Spanier himself stated at trial that he was not told it was sexual abuse. Meanwhile both Curley and Schultz claim they weren't told it was sexual abuse either, but McQueary stated he did tell them that. Obviously through these trials it's been shown that McQueary's story has been believed over everyone else's, so the judge likely dolled out a slightly more severe punishment for the 2 folks that talked to McQueary.
Paterno had a profound influence on all of their lives even though most never met him. I spent the best four years of my life at PSU and only saw Joe
running onto the field on Saturdays. I suspect those that "love and miss
him" had as much interaction. PSU is not a cult but some have formed one.
The same judge who thought the entire "cover-up," (which never happened btw) merited about a year in prison divided by 3 men ... Ok.
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FYI it is infuriating if anyone is watching tv... the scrolls are running non stop on the bottom of the screens once again ...
Not true at all. That's just a way to deflect and demean people. None of us thought Joe was a saint. I thought he was a good man and a great coach, in his prime. Same way a lot of people around the country feel about long tenured coaches.
I just happen to believe, based on the facts in this case, the man has been demonized and scapegoated for trying to follow the law. Somehow because js happened to be an ex coach made this Joe's fault, and in turn a football problem. Just look at the disgraceful posts on the meeechigan board.
And after six years of the worst smear campaign I've ever seen the jury finds no conspiracy.
This case should have highlighted pillar of the community offenders. Instead nothing will change because the media, and PSU, made this a joe and football story. That's a tragedy and a disgrace.
Except that Curley testified to the contrary. Curley said that is was his decision alone know full well the ramifications which cost him more time than the others.
His lawyers actually did OK. They will appeal (unlike the other 2), and get the misdemeanor charge thrown out since the statute of limitations are up on them.
I'm not sure what you're attempting to argue?
Spanier replaced Roskens at UNL. Having close ties to another scandal that involved pedophilia certainly isn't a good argument for Spanier's innocence.
I've been down this rabbit hole. Note the phrase "young men" in what you posted. There's no proof of pedophilia.
The local news here in Florida is now doing a story about
No conspiracy. Yet three of those that decided Sandusky's future are
going to prison and the other is dead. It's not very hard to see how
the rest of the world sees this as a conspiracy.
No conspiracy. Yet three of those that decided Sandusky's future are
going to prison and the other is dead. It's not very hard to see how
the rest of the world sees this as a conspiracy.
His lawyers - the Silver Boys - f*cked the pooch, royally
It's not worth running through that AGAIN..... suffice to say the GD jury foreman said he wouldn't have caved in and voted to convict if Spanier had so much as argued a defense.
Can't get much clearer than that
Freeh is a cyclops...there's one that Karma bit
You nail it. This country is so full of itself, and unjustifiably so.
I suspect that Ira Lubert is hosting Judge Boccabella this weekend for a job "well done". The "selection" of Boccabella as a "replacement judge" wasn't "coincidental". 
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And it'll be there for about 30 seconds and totally forgotten by morning. No one gives a shit and they haven't for a long time.
There's no reason to be infuriated that this crap is on the screen--the battle was lost long ago and we will never know what happened. If a meaningless TV scroll that'll be forgotten by midnight bothers you, stop watching.
As a lawyer I am reluctant to criticize the performance of another lawyer because he/she has information that I do not. That said, I find the Spanier trial strategy "interesting".
I don't agree with them not calling witnesses, but considering the multiple felony charges he was originally facing, and with the deck stacked against them, the outcome could have been worse.
The PSU 3 combined where facing 15 felonies & got ~ year in jail. IMO this was a huge waste of taxpayer $, and an epic fail by the prosecution. They have the media wind at their back to hide this failure, so the headline readers will think they did well.
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Good One!
But it was and I knew it very early on - the state of the legal system in PA is just disheartening - make no mistake these issues existed well before this situation but this took it to a new level
Exactly, the media wind at their back. Not to convolute the argument, but this is how our president won the election. People are sick of contrived narratives...perpetuated by the media.
How in the hell does this judge invoke his opinions on Joe Paterno? Why and how?
How in the hell does this judge invoke his opinions on Joe Paterno? Why and how?
Were I before any judge for any reason, I'd have a very hard time addressing him or her as "Your Honor". "Asshole" would come more naturally.I suspect that Ira Lubert is hosting Judge Boccabella this weekend for a job "well done". The "selection" of Boccabella as a "replacement judge" wasn't "coincidental".
I can honestly say I cannot think of a single poster here who attempts to do that.
MM, JM, Dranov and Raykovitz decided not to call police. One of them became a multi millionaire and the other three continue to lead their lives as though nothing happened.
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