C/S/S all get jail time
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I'm delusional then. I don't think Paterno was telling anyone what should be done about a former coach showering with a boy on campus. Now a conversation to see how Joe remembered his conversation with MM and that influencing how they proceeded.. that would make complete sense. Going to him and asking what steps they should take? Are you freaking kidding me?
What makes me most sad today is that JoePa doesn't have the opportunity to chase down Boccabella and confront him for his "remarks" (which I'm confident were purposefully scripted at the behest of certain BOT members).
RIP Joe.
Your dying wish was to "pursue the truth", but for various reasons that hasn't happened and probably won't.
RIP Joe.
Your dying wish was to "pursue the truth", but for various reasons that hasn't happened and probably won't.
I hope after Mike gets done counting his money that he sits back and realizes what his changed stories/lies has done to destroy these innocent people, the reputation of one of the greatest person(JoePa) of all time and a wonderful university. All their reputations and great work down the drain.
Good to see you back here 74. I think you've been gone a month or more. I understand your reasons but I'm glad you didn't leave permanently. I've cut back myself.
bwifan
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Easy there snowflake ... don't make me bust out the salt
Very happy they are going to jail. I wish they would be in jail much longer though.
You're sniffing some sort of white powder if you think anyone cares. Time to put your big boy pants on.
Thanks. Hope all is well with you. I only came back today due to the injustice. Other than the acquaintances I've made here, such as yourself, I really have no interest, or do I care about the fortunes of Penn State. About a month ago I resigned my life membership from the Alumni Association and have cut all ties. I really don't care if the football team goes 12-0 or 0-12 anymore. I'm done.
Except of course, deep down, I expect you do. Like most of us here. That's why it hurts so much. But it's hard to care anymore. I surely understand that....
I can't blame you. My ties to Penn State hang by a thread. I still follow the football team and wrestling, but don't live and die with the results. I still enjoy this board although I have been limiting my time here while I work on my bucket list. I look back on my life and lament lost opportunities and wasted time. I have a long list of goals and dreams that I want to accomplish and time grows short. I hope you will check in here from time to time. You are one of the good guys and we often think alike on a myriad of topics. All the best.
Thank god we got those dangerous thugs off State College streets. Truly a danger to society.
LOL Only in PA
Oh Walter,
You stupid P. Give my best to your mail-order wife.
All the best,
PPB
I know you are an ignorant twit. But what is really sad is that Phil's Rug
gave you a like, proving dolts even more disgusting than you exist.
Back at you, Fair. You're an introspective type, a trait which I highly admire. Good luck and enjoy working on that bucket list.
Lots of cards were misplayed, and lots of confidence was unfounded. The end of this whole thing is just like the beginning, which is an incredible display of cowardice and incompetence. If all of those guys really were guilty, then they should have manned up early and took their medicine, rather than having this ignominious ending. And if they weren't, they should have gone down swinging. The path they chose is the least satisfying, but perhaps it best exemplifies everything about this whole screwed up mess.
The worst thing is that the biggest liar and coward of all is the one who profited from this. He deserves to enjoy a perfectly miserable life, and I hope he does. I have zero empathy or sympathy for him.
The worst thing is that the biggest liar and coward of all is the one who profited from this. He deserves to enjoy a perfectly miserable life, and I hope he does. I have zero empathy or sympathy for him.
The funny/sad thing about this situation is that while people sat and waited for a smoking gun to clear these administrators from wrongdoing, the truth was out there all along. McQueary witnessed whatever he did and chose not to call police. He reported it up the chain of command as if he saw somebody lifting a box of pencils from the supply closet and the administrators responded. Mike McQueary never never voiced a complaint about it, never went to the police to report what he witnessed. Mike McQueary is responsible for the destruction of many, many lives in several different ways. But hey, at least he's got millions to show for it and a smartphone to show off pictures of his Johnson to some random chicks. Well done Mike.
No, seriously I do not care. The only thing I do miss occasionally is the interaction with some on this board for whom I've developed a respect and feel that in real life I would have developed a friendship. You are one of those, for what it's worth.
And the only conviction involving a trial was followed by the jury foreman saying they made a mistake and he would apologized to Spanier if he could. Once Spanier wins his appeal, the only guilty convictions will be on pleas. The whole thing continues to be mind boggling.
I'm not sure the appeal will prove to be any more above board than anything else that this judicial system does.
He pulled it out of his ass. Like he will his thumb in another hour or two just in time for dinner.
They got to pull everyone else down with them...... so, there's that
Well....... except for the folks that should have
Thanks Guys!!!!!
If you had told me in December 2011 that in 5 1/2 years, the final result would be Sandusky in jail for essentially life, Curley, Spanier, and Schultz going to jail, and McQueary winning a multi-million dollar suit and there being no retribution to anyone on the BOT, Corbett, or TSM, I'd have said you'll have it half right. But I guess it pays to have deep pockets and many avenues of corrupt collaboration. Well done, Commonwealth, you continue to amaze.
Trying to imagine the content of the discussions that took place between the plaintiffs and their attorneys leading up to the plea. They certainly didn't "save face" by taking the plea deal.
If Spanier was convicted of a misdemeanor how does that warrant jail time for a first offender. This is a serious question any criminal attorneys care to answer.
As a casual bystander this action seems out of proportion to the alleged crime.
As a casual bystander this action seems out of proportion to the alleged crime.
Agree. I can understand him losing his job as it was on his watch...right or wrong. Jail time...not sure that fixes a thing.
Don't be disrespectful of the generations that built the school you love.
That said, the dismissal of guilty verdicts on this board is a huge deterrent from wanting to be a member of this community. I have no idea what JoePa was smeared in his grave, however. The judge can rot in Hell for that shit.
The Corrupt Commonwealth dispatches "Senior Judges" who are semi retired and beholding to the syndicate. This judge was likely hand picked for the job and scripted.
All misdemeanors are not created equal. Spanier was found guilty of a high level misdemeanor (essentially one notch below a felony). Plus, a judge has discretion in sentencing based on theparticular facts of a case.
If the facts of the case were considered by the judge in any way, he would have overturned the jury's verdict. The jail sentences were imposed only because "His Honor" wanted to look good in the eyes of the media and American public. No question whatsoever. These guys never had a chance. Some of us were naive enough to think that justice would prevail. In my case I forgot what country and state we are living in. Just add this judge to the coward list.
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If any of the three had mounted even a half-assed defense - - - they would have walked (hell, the Spanier jury foreman said so himself)
They f*cked up ....... or, if one concludes they could not possibly be that stupid, were driven by more despicable motivations.
For many folks - it is certainly much more palatable to place the blame at the feet of another F-ed up kangaroo court judge (and we HAVE seen plenty of them over the last six years) and a hopelessly polluted jury pool
But - and not disputing the jury tainting that is certainly an issue - these guys screwed up. They shit their own beds (and everyone else's in the process)
I'm not sure which of the two (stupidity, or something worse) but it had to be one or the other or both.
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The judge "forgot" most of Curley's testimony during this case over a 5-year period.
Someone should file an ethics complaint against Boccabella for his bizarre diatribe. 2/3 of it was based on no fact in evidence.
