Football Can fans be upset with James Franklin if he gets Penn State to 11-1?

[voltz99]

True and the part of the game that really emphasized this was the last drive by OSU starting at their own one yard line with over 5 minutes left. Keep in mind, OSU was already down their top 2 LTs with injuries and had to shift OL around before the PSU game. That depleted OSU line just curb stomped the PSU defense and running 11 straight plays to end the game

I was on the OSU site - Eleven Warriors - and they interviewed a couple of the OSU reserve OL - after the game - who were forced to play a lot and start and they mentioned they were sick and tired of the constant ridicule as the team's weak unit - mostly by the OSU fans - and just wanted prove they were decent group. They did

Why were OSU fans complaining the first 8 weeks? Was Franklin coaching there?

 

[PSUSignore]

Criticizing Franklin for his inability to beat Ohio State doesn't mean they want Rhule here to win 6 games

You're right. They want Rhule. They believe Rhule will win more than Franklin. They are wrong.

 

[rrdd2021]

The towel was thrown to get it out of the way of play; the OSU player tossed it behind the PSU line because he didn't have time to throw it anywhere else and that was the location where it would do the least damage.

I stand by my statement that OSU mostly is businesslike and their players act like they've been there before.

I think that was a huge reason why Alabama and Saban were so successful. He just didn't put up with any BS stuff from his players or they were hitting the bench and - in many cases - were gone

 

[LandoComando]

You're right. They want Rhule. They believe Rhule will win more than Franklin. They are wrong.

No one should want Rhule--I don't disagree some do but they also care more about Paterno than the program so...

 

[Delcolion915]

It probably pre-dates Kotelnicki, but any PSU fan old enough to remember our 1979 Sugar Bowl loss probably still gets PTSD when we try to run the ball up the middle in goal-to-go situations. I sure do. I can't believe with the game on the line we go 10 against 11 with a lineman running out wide and not blocking anyone 3 straight times while we hand off to Fatman up the middle against a team that's better than us on the interior. Remember the words of Marty Lyons - "you better pass." Maybe Drew was shell-shocked after the interception Igbinosun made at the end of the half and Kotelnicki didn't want to tempt fate again.

That was not an interception. That was a gift.

 

[LMTLION]

I just read an article that Rhule hired former wvu coach Dana Holgorsen to run his offense. Nebraska season has gone sideways (2-4 conference record) and the offense is pitiful, scoring 23.6 points per game (only 18.3 in-conference), which is 99th nationally and 15th in the conference. I know that Franklin still can’t win the big games consistently, but there are very few alternatives out there that can get above that 10-11 win level.) I mentioned Rhule because he is always mentioned here on the message board as being somebody that can take program to the next level, but that is simply not true based on results.

 

[LandoComando]

I just read an article that Rhule hired former wvu coach Dana Holgorsen to run his offense. Nebraska season has gone sideways (2-4 conference record) and the offense is pitiful, scoring 23.6 points per game (only 18.3 in-conference), which is 99th nationally and 15th in the conference. I know that Franklin still can’t win the big games consistently, but there are very few alternatives out there that can get above that 10-11 win level.) I mentioned Rhule because he is always mentioned here on the message board as being somebody that can take program to the next level, but that is simply not true based on results.

Rhule's not the answer but Smart wasn't the obvious answer at the time either. All about risk/reward. Right now there's no reason to make a move unless we completely collapse.
Franklin just has to continue to grow the problem and not see it become stagnant. No reason he can't do that. But if he doesn't, it's time to move on

 

[bcspsu]

Rhule's not the answer but Smart wasn't the obvious answer at the time either. All about risk/reward. Right now there's no reason to make a move unless we completely collapse.
Franklin just has to continue to grow the problem and not see it become stagnant. No reason he can't do that. But if he doesn't, it's time to move on

I agree with that. I really believe that Franklin is a much better game day coach now than he was when he first got here. Also, it's obvious that he relates to recruits, regardless of whether they sign here or not, which is very important.

Like I've said before, he has positioned PSU in a very enviable place in the college football hierarchy. It would be ludicrous to start all over just because of his record against one team when that could change very quickly like what happned with Harbaugh and Michigan against that same team. The fact is that he is 29-6 since the 2022 season. In that same period, Bama has lost 6 games and OSU has lost 5 games just for comparison.

 

[PSUSignore]

Rhule's not the answer but Smart wasn't the obvious answer at the time either. All about risk/reward. Right now there's no reason to make a move unless we completely collapse.
Franklin just has to continue to grow the problem and not see it become stagnant. No reason he can't do that. But if he doesn't, it's time to move on

The risk for all but maybe 3-5 coaches would outweigh the reward. And of those 3-5 coaches it is likely none would have any interest in coming to PSU, PSU couldn't afford them, or they'd bring baggage with them that PSU wouldn't tolerate so they'd be ruled out. Franklin has the keys for as long as he wants.

 

[LandoComando]

The risk for all but maybe 3-5 coaches would outweigh the reward. And of those 3-5 coaches it is likely none would have any interest in coming to PSU, PSU couldn't afford them, or they'd bring baggage with them that PSU wouldn't tolerate so they'd be ruled out. Franklin has the keys for as long as he wants.

So, Georgia shouldn't have fired Richt?

 

[WaffleShopper]

I agree with that. I really believe that Franklin is a much better game day coach now than he was when he first got here. Also, it's obvious that he relates to recruits, regardless of whether they sign here or not, which is very important.

Like I've said before, he has positioned PSU in a very enviable place in the college football hierarchy. It would be ludicrous to start all over just because of his record against one team when that could change very quickly like what happned with Harbaugh and Michigan against that same team. The fact is that he is 29-6 since the 2022 season. In that same period, Bama has lost 6 games and OSU has lost 5 games just for comparison.

Michigan's success happened very quickly because they started cheating. They stopped cheating and immediately fell back to the pack where they belong.