Football Can fans be upset with James Franklin if he gets Penn State to 11-1?
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You're right. They want Rhule. They believe Rhule will win more than Franklin. They are wrong.
I think that was a huge reason why Alabama and Saban were so successful. He just didn't put up with any BS stuff from his players or they were hitting the bench and - in many cases - were gone
No one should want Rhule--I don't disagree some do but they also care more about Paterno than the program so...
I just read an article that Rhule hired former wvu coach Dana Holgorsen to run his offense. Nebraska season has gone sideways (2-4 conference record) and the offense is pitiful, scoring 23.6 points per game (only 18.3 in-conference), which is 99th nationally and 15th in the conference. I know that Franklin still can’t win the big games consistently, but there are very few alternatives out there that can get above that 10-11 win level.) I mentioned Rhule because he is always mentioned here on the message board as being somebody that can take program to the next level, but that is simply not true based on results.
Rhule's not the answer but Smart wasn't the obvious answer at the time either. All about risk/reward. Right now there's no reason to make a move unless we completely collapse.
Franklin just has to continue to grow the problem and not see it become stagnant. No reason he can't do that. But if he doesn't, it's time to move on
I agree with that. I really believe that Franklin is a much better game day coach now than he was when he first got here. Also, it's obvious that he relates to recruits, regardless of whether they sign here or not, which is very important.
Like I've said before, he has positioned PSU in a very enviable place in the college football hierarchy. It would be ludicrous to start all over just because of his record against one team when that could change very quickly like what happned with Harbaugh and Michigan against that same team. The fact is that he is 29-6 since the 2022 season. In that same period, Bama has lost 6 games and OSU has lost 5 games just for comparison.
The risk for all but maybe 3-5 coaches would outweigh the reward. And of those 3-5 coaches it is likely none would have any interest in coming to PSU, PSU couldn't afford them, or they'd bring baggage with them that PSU wouldn't tolerate so they'd be ruled out. Franklin has the keys for as long as he wants.
Michigan's success happened very quickly because they started cheating. They stopped cheating and immediately fell back to the pack where they belong.
Do we have any former players who coached for several years under Nick Saban?
I don't think Smart having played at Georgia matters
Like Georgia, Penn State is a big enough job to get any top-tier coordinator
And old jummah was lighting the world on fire either until they knew everyone's plays.
But wasn't he a lot of team's top targets? Smart was said he was waiting for the right job--now maybe you're right and that job was Georgia but he just wasn't willing to go to a lesser program to build them
He wanted the Georgia job. Georgia was also interested in Dan Mullen if Kirby had decided to wait for Saban to retire. That would not have worked out so well, most likely.
Agreed on Mullen
I think there were only a handful of jobs Kirby would have taken
Kind of like I think Venables was only interested in about 5
Venables should have stayed at Clemson with Dabo.
Probably not, but I don't remember anybody clamoring that Smart was going to be highly successful any more than the typical hiring of a Saban-tree coach, right?
Haha. True. But I don't remember anyone on that staff being talked about like Kirby. Maybe Kiffin/Sarkisian, but both had already been head coaches and failed in their first stop. Pruitt kind of served Tennessee right after they fired Schiano. But that also makes the point that just hiring a top assistant is a crap shoot.
