And that's why he's being suspended 2 games for it. But the bigger question is, why is it a rule in the first place? Thank God these players are getting paid here in the near future.If it's against the rules, it's against the rules.
Ahh, there's that "holier than thou" mentality I've grown so accustomed of seeing. You wanted it to be an agent so bad, you wanted OSU to vacate wins so bad, you wanted him to be suspended for the rest of the season so bad, but it wasn't any of that and now you're complaining that it's unfair and OSU skates. What's really unfair is that this was a 2 game suspension and not a 0 game suspension.Let me start off by saying that I would expect Tosu to beat Penn State without chase young. With or without him, Tosu is better. With that said, this situation with Tosu and young disgusts me. Reading gene smith’s bullshit about Tosu and young makes me hate this sport. As far as I’m concerned, let Penn State just continue Success With Honor. We won’t be at the top, but we’ll win enough, we’ll graduate our players, and we’ll simply do it the right way, the Penn State Way. Screw the rest. Being elite isn’t worth selling your soul.
When you see this kind of crap being allowed, expected, and even commended, the game isn’t worth the investment of my time and money. I have a Pokémon GO event from 11 a.m to 2 p.m. on Saturday. I’ll hang out with friends and play Pokémon GO instead of stopping my life to watch football. Whatever.
Um, yeah..the exact definition of an improper benefit. And where did he get the money to pay it back? Another “family friend”?The NCAA is a JOKE for suspending him "indefinitely" in the first place. What did Young do? He borrowed money from a family friend to fly his girlfriend to the Rose Bowl back in January, then paid the loan back over the summer.
No. If you simply open a blind, you see cheating at Tosu. It's always been that way.If you look hard enough, you can find a conspiracy in just about everything.
Why? The win would still count.Good. Want to play them at their best.
Do you at least admit that OSU self-reported before their two easiest conference games of the season, banking on a two game suspension?And that's why he's being suspended 2 games for it. But the bigger question is, why is it a rule in the first place? Thank God these players are getting paid here in the near future.
How do you know it wasn't an agent? We still don't know who this person was, correct?Ahh, there's that "holier than thou" mentality I've grown so accustomed of seeing. You wanted it to be an agent so bad, you wanted OSU to vacate wins so bad, you wanted him to be suspended for the rest of the season so bad, but it wasn't any of that and now you're complaining that it's unfair and OSU skates. What's really unfair is that this was a 2 game suspension and not a 0 game suspension.
If you look hard enough, you can find a conspiracy in just about everything.
Obviously, you are outraged.Let me start off by saying that I would expect Tosu to beat Penn State without chase young. With or without him, Tosu is better. With that said, this situation with Tosu and young disgusts me. Reading gene smith’s bullshit about Tosu and young makes me hate this sport. As far as I’m concerned, let Penn State just continue Success With Honor. We won’t be at the top, but we’ll win enough, we’ll graduate our players, and we’ll simply do it the right way, the Penn State Way. Screw the rest. Being elite isn’t worth selling your soul.
When you see this kind of crap being allowed, expected, and even commended, the game isn’t worth the investment of my time and money. I have a Pokémon GO event from 11 a.m to 2 p.m. on Saturday. I’ll hang out with friends and play Pokémon GO instead of stopping my life to watch football. Whatever.
These players have been getting paid plenty all along. They get a scholarship. They get to keep any Pell Grant money they qualify for even though tuition, room and board are covered. They now have the attendance stipend. I like the lie about they don't even have money for pizza. Walk around a facility. The players have access to free food all day every day. This is all within the rules. These guys do not suffer economically. If his girlfriend needed $5,000 to go to California and didn't have it, she should have stayed home.And that's why he's being suspended 2 games for it. But the bigger question is, why is it a rule in the first place? Thank God these players are getting paid here in the near future.
Yes, PSU suspends a player one game for spitting and Young gets one more game for breaking NCAA rules...either walk the walk or just admit your program is a cheating football factory....don’t try to BS everyone like Gene Smith is doing.Ahh, there's that "holier than thou" mentality I've grown so accustomed of seeing. You wanted it to be an agent so bad, you wanted OSU to vacate wins so bad, you wanted him to be suspended for the rest of the season so bad, but it wasn't any of that and now you're complaining that it's unfair and OSU skates. What's really unfair is that this was a 2 game suspension and not a 0 game suspension.
If you look hard enough, you can find a conspiracy in just about everything.
Nobody knows more about what goes on at OSU than PSU and Michigan fans that's for sure.No. If you simply open a blind, you see cheating at Tosu. It's always been that way.
Of course they self reported before those two games. But not because they sat on information like so many people think.Do you at least admit that OSU self-reported before their two easiest conference games of the season, banking on a two game suspension?
It's a rule because otherwise a "friend" could offer an athlete a no interest $200K loan that is only due when they get their NFL signing bonus. Obviously, you see why that is a problem. I hope....
"Thank God these players are getting paid here in the near future"
I strongly disagree. I'd rather see things go the other direction (glorified club sports) than to this quasi-pro model.
There's more information to suggest it wasn't an agent than to say it was. Holding out hope that is was an agent (because you desperately want it to be) isn't going to help you.How do you know it wasn't an agent? We still don't know who this person was, correct?
Good points but they apparently aren't getting money to have their girlfriends come see them play in the Rose Bowl. They're still broke college kids basically.These players have been getting paid plenty all along. They get a scholarship. They get to keep any Pell Grant money they qualify for even though tuition, room and board are covered. They now have the attendance stipend. I like the lie about they don't even have money for pizza. Walk around a facility. The players have access to free food all day every day. This is all within the rules. These guys do not suffer economically. If his girlfriend needed $5,000 to go to California and didn't have it, she should have stayed home.
This isn't an tOSU issue. This is a much bigger problem.
Oh yes, I remember you from the other thread.Why are you here?
Oh, and....... GFY
That actually may be true since the topics at hand are of no interest to OSU fans.. just win baby right?Nobody knows more about what goes on at OSU than PSU and Michigan fans that's for sure.
The purpose of the rule is immaterial. The rule is the rule - you break it, and you should pay a penalty. So, what is going to happen in the future is immaterial to what happened in ....2018 and is being adjudicated (sic) in 2019.And that's why he's being suspended 2 games for it. But the bigger question is, why is it a rule in the first place? Thank God these players are getting paid here in the near future.
Does Rutgers really count as a game? Young probably would've been pulled when you went ahead 42-0 with 12 minutes left in the second quarter anywayAnd that's why he's being suspended 2 games for it. But the bigger question is, why is it a rule in the first place? Thank God these players are getting paid here in the near future.
Well, someone has to - you guys sure don't seem to be up to speed.Nobody knows more about what goes on at OSU than PSU and Michigan fans that's for sure.
That’s a girlfriend problem, not a player problem.Good points but they apparently aren't getting money to have their girlfriends come see them play in the Rose Bowl. They're still broke college kids basically.
Ahh, there's that "holier than thou" mentality I've grown so accustomed of seeing. You wanted it to be an agent so bad, you wanted OSU to vacate wins so bad, you wanted him to be suspended for the rest of the season so bad, but it wasn't any of that and now you're complaining that it's unfair and OSU skates. What's really unfair is that this was a 2 game suspension and not a 0 game suspension.
If you look hard enough, you can find a conspiracy in just about everything.
What information is that exactly? Mr Young's word?There's more information to suggest it wasn't an agent than to say it was. Holding out hope that is was an agent (because you desperately want it to be) isn't going to help you.
But that's why the rule exists. You asked. I answered.Of course they self reported before those two games. But not because they sat on information like so many people think.
Also that comparison is completely off base and not even remotely the same as what happened. 200k$? Paying them back once they get to the NFL? Both of those are so, so much worse.
No, it's a pay the players problem.That’s a girlfriend problem, not a player problem.
Im an ass because I was right about everything I said and you had nothing else to say other than go **** yourself? Okay buddy.Wrong about what? You being an ass?
Nah.... I think its pretty clear I am correct.
I don’t understand why Herbstreit feels the need to explain the logic that went into the 2 game suspension. Was he in the room deciding his fate? Kirk, next time just a one liner to report the news : This just in : Young suspended 2 games.
thanks
Well I would imagine that the players have constant reminders that taking a loan is against the rules. Someone at OSU most likely - and perhaps it was Chase - sat on this until right before their 2 easiest games. This was most likely a 1-2 game suspension so it played out perfectly. Similar to osu arguing several years ago let our players play in a bowl but suspend them for multiple game’s the following year when it was clear several of those players were never coming back.Of course they self reported before those two games. But not because they sat on information like so many people think.
Also that comparison is completely off base and not even remotely the same as what happened. 200k$? Paying them back once they get to the NFL? Both of those are so, so much worse.
Nobody knows more about what goes on at OSU than PSU and Michigan fans that's for sure.
This was just cleared with the NCAA. If you think it was an agent, then you are also saying this is a huge cover up between OSU and the NCAA and yea that's not going to happen.What information is that exactly? Mr Young's word?
Unless you know who the $$ man was, you have no idea if he was an agent or not. And if he was an agent, I'm certain that OSU had some other non-agent "friend" volunteer that it was actually he who lent the $$.
Hey remember this clever little prank Fleming pulled right after he announced he was going to become a nut?His “honesty”
College players taking online classes is trending further up. Now you're trying to make that a conspiracy? Dear lord.Remember everyone that we are talking about a program where their starting QB does not attend a single class on campus,... all on-line classes. O$U is now and always has been a professional team without a salary cap. Chase Young should have been suspended no more than 2 games for nothing else than breaking a rule that he absolutely knew was in place. Yes, the rule is probably silly and needs to be adjusted somehow; but he knew what he was doing put him at risk. Any chance he had a a Heisman run is now off the table so he has suffered enough. I'm just curious who loaned him the money to pay back the other person that loaned him the money.
Chase Young gets 2 games, as was pretty much expected, he'll be back for our game vs. tOSU. We'd best be prepared to deal with him.
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