Until winning a conference title is a requirement, which will never be the case, then that is strictly opinion. I'm using reality. Ohio State over Penn State was a lock last year. LOCK
Conference Champs and Playoff
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Until winning a conference title is a requirement, which will never be the case, then that is strictly opinion. I'm using reality. Ohio State over Penn State was a lock last year. LOCK
I don't believe any team in a playoff should play at home. It's too big of an advantage. The bigger schools with the better alumni/fan following already have an advantage, as do the teams in the south where undoubtedly some of the games will reside....
The goal should be a fair playoff with no advantage to any of the teams, in order to crown a truly deserving actual champion. Neutral fields are a necessity to accomplish that goal. And the real money is TV money, as NCAA BBall has shown.
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You know how annoying it is to read 100% opinion as being “a LOCK”?
So tell me oh great one, why will the conference champions NEVER be a requirement to be in a playoff (you know, like every other sport on the planet)? What special insight do you have that this clear evolution towards that has stopped evolving?
Cut to the chase. An eight team playoff is the way to go. Sixteen is too many and 9 through 16 will rarely win it all. Four is not enough with so many teams
All P5 Conference Champs get in. For the G5 to get to a G3 (a minor detail to work out). Each G3 winner there will get in.
Champs start facing off against champs and we will then have an undisputed winner.
For all the others, tune in to the Miss America pageant for eye test and resume shenanigans. This is football and the field is where it should be won.
All P5 Conference Champs get in. For the G5 to get to a G3 (a minor detail to work out). Each G3 winner there will get in.
Champs start facing off against champs and we will then have an undisputed winner.
For all the others, tune in to the Miss America pageant for eye test and resume shenanigans. This is football and the field is where it should be won.
Because the SEC will never agree to it
And, no, there's no other sport in which you have to win a division/conference to make it to the playoff. Every other sport includes ALL conferences winners---if you want that to happen I'm on board--that's 10 auto-bids and at least 6 at large. I don't think you understand what the word requirement means
There was NEVER any doubt last year that the top three teams were going to include Ohio State. The only debate, outside our fan base, was Penn State vs. Washington.
That is precisely why you need it - it removes the stupid excuse that expanding the playoffs make the regular season meaningless. It would have huge meaning for teams to be able to host a playoff game. Both for the advantage it brings in the game and the financial gains from hosting a game for the school and the town. Even if the school needs to split the revenues in some way it is a huge benefit to host a game. IMO this is the biggest need... If you expand, you can't expect fans to travel 3 plus weeks to neutral games. Yes - some games would be in the south but you would also see southern teams have to play in the north in the cold which would be fantastic.
It proves they did something the other teams in their conference did. Since nothing else proves anything, that's the closest they can come.
There's no other sport where a conference winner doesn't make the playoffs in any sport. And if all conferences are going to be included then are the G5 conferences going to guarantee some things that put them on a level playing field? Equal travel, equally payouts, equal number of difficult games? It doesn't seem fair they can slide through their easy competition, collect big money from the one P5 team they play in a year, not travel at the same level that P5 schools do, yet still get a place at the table. Let them figure out how they're going to get their representative, but they should only get one spot in the playoffs.
And this is the problem...either winning a conference title matters or it doesn't. If all conference winners are included it matters--otherwise it doesn't. The stated objective is to get the best 4 teams. Not the conference champions of the 4 conferences deemed to be the best.
In all other sports it works....and all levels of football other than FBS.
We agree--in no other sport in a conference champ left out--and that shouldn't be the case in FBS--but until all are included it will never be a requirement.
The SEC is loving life right now--they're going to get 2 teams most years IMO--especially if Georgia and Bama reach the final.
The lower levels of football don't compare to the wear and tear at the P5 level. They don't have the travel nor do they take the hits. It's apples and oranges.
You keep saying this and it's completely untrue.
Why do people act like they travel for days by bus to get to a game?
And, no, an 8 team playoff resolves nothing--not all conference champs are included unless of course FBS is split into two levels
How can you possible think every conference should have a representative? There's a reason these crap teams from garbage conferences get paid tons of money to come be a sacrificial lamb at a P5 school. An 8 team playoff would give legitimate contenders a shot at winning.
A lot of folks talk about the lower levels of football and how great there playoff is and. I am not so sure. I heard the North Dakota State coach the other day and he even said the regular season doesn’t mean much. He said they could lose 2 games and probably 3 and still make it in. Not sure we want that.
Everyone should go independent because it means nothing to win your conference, that is what the committee has showed us
Why not? Why can't a team that drops a couple early season games contend for a title? See USC & Penn State last year. Those were the two teams most likely (although unlikely) to beat Bama & Clemson but early losses did them im=n
Which is a very good point. Need to make sure that the divisions in the conference are balanced.
Where in the rules does it state that college football has to be like every other sport? I don't want it to be like every other sport, I just want it to be better than it is now. To go to a 16 team playoff, they would have to make too many changes to the only good sport left going. Four is not enough, 16 is too many, 8 is a good compromise that achieves what most people want.
16 is not too many with all conference champions. In a perfect world we'd have 24 like FCS. Actually I'd be thrilled for 12 (setup like the NFL) if FBS was split into two levels.
You keep humping that, every conference champ gets in nonsense but, no one agrees with you. Hell, Akron was in the MAC conf champ game and we were blasted for playing them because they were such a cupcake. There are 5 major conferences. The rest are coattails riders cashing paychecks off the power 5. An 8 team playoff will occasionally let one of the anomalies in.
Our non-conference schedule was blasted because our best opponent was either Pitt or Georgia State. Let's look at the other contenders this year. Alabama scheduled FSU, Clemson played Auburn, Ohio State played Oklahoma, Georgia played ND and Georgia Tech, USC (who I still don't think is good) played ND & Texas. Yeah, FSU & Texas flopped but they tried. Hell, Wisconsin even travelled to BYU which also flopped but there was effort.
If conference champions get auto-bids then all conference champions must get auto-bids IMO.
Toledo, FAU, UCF, Boise State and Troy deserve a chance--like every other collegiate sport. If you disagree that's fine but then your argument about winning your conference being relevant losses all validity
Here, I'll make it relevant...all P5 conference champions have to get in. There, it's relevant.
It’s not Klatt’s novel idea... its common freaking sense! The problem is that too many people profit from the imperfect system and aren’t willing to stick their neck out. the media makes more money when people have angst about who does and does not make the playoff or whatever championship process is in place at the time. The SEC and ACC gets at least one team into the playoffs each year so they are happy with it. The big ten and big 12 get a team in just about every year so they aren’t going to rock the boat. The PAC 12 has had fewer invites, but they risk losing ground to other non P5 teams if the system changes.
While no 2 years are exactly alike this year would have been the perfect year to have 8 teams. The 5 P5 champions, PSU, Bama and UCF from the group of 5.
Do away with divisions and conf CGs and expand to 8 teams with the top 4 seeds getting the first round game at home.
Do away with divisions and conf CGs and expand to 8 teams with the top 4 seeds getting the first round game at home.
I don't think PSU would have gotten into an 8 team playoff this year, but it's still the best way to go.
Like everyone has said (and you can't seem to grasp) make it all P5 champions and three at large. Pretty easy actually.
I mentioned Auburn, why shouldn’t Wisky get in ahead of us? All having 8 teams solves is the Group of 5 champions all get in. I think with 8 the SEC would end up with 3 teams more often than not.
Doesn't matter. By not winning their conference, they've already proven they're not worthy of a national title.
How does it prove they're not worthy of a playoff birth? The NCAA committee clearly disagrees. All other sports (college and pros) have proven that teams that haven't won their conference are more than capable of winning a title. If we were 11-1 this year you'd be saying something very different. And, if you wouldn't be, then you'd be an idiot. If we beat Michigan State this year we'd have been 4 or 5--should be 4 based on resume...probably 5 because Bama is Bama
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