I also could have shoved my thumb up my ass and then stuck it in your mouth and it would have been just as effective as the vaccine was in stopping me from getting Covid, Nostradumbass.
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I also could have shoved my thumb up my ass and then stuck it in your mouth and it would have been just as effective as the vaccine was in stopping me from getting Covid, Nostradumbass.
Ha ha. You caught my post that includes the “reputation cost” soapbox part. I had edited it out. I have been too soapboxy lately. This problem with our democracy and alternative facts and accountability is making me troubled. I don’t know whether it’s going to get cured. I think I’ll just leave it alone and stay off this thread.DogW you like some of my stuff, that's cool.
I am an engineer by education. A's in math, science, economics, .... As for English, Spanish,.. you be the judge. I make no apologies for my linguistic skills or more acturately the lack thereof. Nor do I get too worked up about those who disagree with me. I prefer a free and diverse society.
If I seen a little testy, my bad, I am still getting over that little medical crisis with my wife it really gave us a scare. That and this shit pea soup we have been breathing all summer. Air quality was over 500 in Nearby Folsom earlier.
Scroll out and take a look at the whole state. Now this is another reason to wear masks.
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Anyhow, I do enjoy your posts quite a bit (in other threads more than in this one
). You know more wrestling than me for sure. Take care! And I hope your wife is fully well by now!Doing the thumb move might have been more effective than the vaccine. Because if crabby had killed you, you wouldn’t have been able to get sick with COVID.
Good old George, Even gave a shout out to thee HR. Martin Armstrong, by chance?
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A little something to maybe give you guys a laugh.
Ha ha. You caught my post that includes the “reputation cost” soapbox part. I had edited it out. I have been too soapboxy lately. This problem with our democracy and alternative facts and accountability is making me troubled. I don’t know whether it’s going to get cured. I think I’ll just leave it alone and stay off this thread.
Anyhow, I do enjoy your posts quite a bit (in other threads more than in this one
Don't be troubled welder of dogs. There's a lot more misinformation going on besides covid. Brawndo has electrolytes. Its what plants crave!
And vaccine might be better than suffering, wrecked health, or death.
If you get COVID, somehow don’t suffer, and survive in good health, your immunity was better than the vaccine.
If you get COVID, and suffer or survive with diminished health or die, the vaccine might have been better
You do realize, of course, that some of us didn't have the vaccine option because we got covid prior to the vaccines being available to everyone, right?
Which means the only choice at the time of infection was simply deal with it as best you could.
Possible that being unvaccinated was a factor in Cam Newton not winning the starting QB job in New England and being cut.
To be fair, he was confirmed to have had covid last year and IMO previous infection within ~1 year should count for any vaccine requirements.
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The only study I'm aware of suggests vaccination provides more than twice the protection than natural immunization:
One thing that this study does is to consider anyone with a positive NAAT (PCR) Test or Antibody Test to have had Covid. Knowing how inaccurate the PCR tests are/were I am betting there were a significant number of false positive NAAT Tests that caused people that did not previously have Covid to be counted in the Natural Immunity group, which would skew those numbers.
There is another study from Israel that indicates:
Natural immunity from Covid infection could be stronger than vaccination in protecting against Delta variant: Recovered patients are 13 TIMES less likely to be infected than those who have Pfizer jabs, Israeli study suggests
- A new study from Israel looked at thousands of people who had either been vaccinated against COVID-19 or were unvaccinated but previously infected
- Participants who were double jabbed were 5.96 times more likely to be infected and 7.13 times more likely to experience symptoms
- After three months, risk of infection was 13.06 times higher among immunized individuals and they were 27 times more likely to experience symptoms
- Researchers say the study has many limitations including the Indian 'Delta' variant being dominant and participants not being required to be tested
- The study does not discourage vaccination because unvaccinated people are still more likely to be infected with Covid or hospitalized than vaccinated people
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Possible that being unvaccinated was a factor in Cam Newton not winning the starting QB job in New England and being cut.
To be fair, he was confirmed to have had covid last year and IMO previous infection within ~1 year should count for any vaccine requirements.
Did Cam Newton's Vaccination Status Impact Patriots' Decision To Start Mac Jones?
Cam Newton was seemingly unvaccinated, and some wonder if it was one of the reasons the team opted to go with Mac Jones at quarterback.
One problem with this... Mac Jones is an anti-vaxxer.
"The team, from Maccabi Healthcare and Tel Aviv University note that their study - which has not yet been peer-reviewed - has many limitations including the more highly transmissible Delta variant being dominant at the time and participants not being required to be tested."
So you took issue with the methodology of the study I cited, and in response you cite a study that appears to lack one. Moreover, the numbers cited are all over the place.
He's gotta be vaccinated though right? I don't really follow the Patriots but I thought I've seen a bunch of photos of Cam in a mask but not Jones and I thought unvaccinated were required to wear them.
I would believe that natural immunity is actually stronger than vaccine immunity.
But I don't believe that PCR tests are inaccurate, although they can find infections when you are no longer contagious. Do you think overall that we are overcounting the number of cases that have occurred? If so, then that means the death rate is higher than we thought. If not, then that contradicts your claim of "a significant number of false positives."
If breakthrough infection in a super-high percentage of immunized persons is not long-term harmful, and
if recovered patients have the best immunity possible,
then if a super nasty Omega variant arises, I wonder if it might become a good idea for the immunized to be booster-shot with live original-variant virus.
Just a random thought, since we’re all playing doctor these days.
if recovered patients have the best immunity possible,
then if a super nasty Omega variant arises, I wonder if it might become a good idea for the immunized to be booster-shot with live original-variant virus.
Just a random thought, since we’re all playing doctor these days.
You said you only knew of one study. Now you know of two, both with methodologies that may not be perfect.
If breakthrough infection in a super-high percentage of immunized persons is not long-term harmful, and
if recovered patients have the best immunity possible,
then if a super nasty Omega variant arises, I wonder if it might become a good idea for the immunized to be booster-shot with live original-variant virus.
Just a random thought, since we’re all playing doctor these days.
Ha ha! Injected live virus is the truly-rich man’s injected bleach, baby!!
Justin Basch has a business and many clients, so he should really not post about his politics. If he’s not smart enough to practice caution, how can anyone trust him for social media and online presence advice?
Look what happened to Foley on this forum. Foley made himself unlikable by talking about politics too much. Basch is going down the exact same path. Now that Cenzo is frequently not on the podcast, and after Basch’s diarrhea of the mouth in the Beau interview, I am very much not eager to listen to this self-indulgent Basch on anything, anymore.
I am not reading into his tweet. Why couldn't it simply reflect his risk appetite?
Regardless of a mask requirement or whether one is already vaccinated, one may simply not wish to take any additional risk from being be at an indoor event in a city where transmission is high and social distancing will likely be limited among masses over which one has little to no control.
Regardless of a mask requirement or whether one is already vaccinated, one may simply not wish to take any additional risk from being be at an indoor event in a city where transmission is high and social distancing will likely be limited among masses over which one has little to no control.
That would be a very interesting decision to make right after the mask requirement is announced.
I guess one could reading into it that way rather than consider it an input to conclude it is too risky.
It would take a very special type of person to think that way.
I don't wear masks either. Thankfully Basch has the balls to put his opinion out. Good job Basch. Don't let them bully you!
Hopefully USA Wrestling has the guts to kick out the people that won’t comply, but I won’t hold my breath.
Cenzo/the guests were always the draw for me anyway. On the occasions I tuned in, I usually tuned Basch out. Some incredible conversations between Cenzo and some high level wrestlers. The JO post-trials interview was incredible.
Are you saying that Basch = foley in crazy political takes?
Foley was a loon before loon came mainstream. That said I do think JTS and I would agree Iran remains safer than iowa.....
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I’m kinda eager to listen to the Bartlett interview now!
But I agree with your other post, I’m surprised he would post something like that at all. Technically it’s not really political if he was just talking about masks, but considering the advice he likes to give, I’d think he would know that if you post something like that chances are ~50% of your readers will disagree.
No. I think Foley’s politics are not crazy, just inappropriate and self-indulgent because we just want to hear about wrestling on Intermat.
Basch’s thoughts on masks (or on wrestling) are equally self-indulgent to me because he is no kind of authority, or source of insight, or object of fandom, and I don’t care about him. He’s no different from Cael’s dentist or Cael’s dry cleaner to me. He’s just a guy with access to Cael and Cael’s team.
Good for you. One question, are you vaccinated? Basch is not and is anti-mask which to me is reckless but that is me. USA Wrestling and the venue are not trying to bully anyone, they are simply trying to provide as safe an environment as they can. That is key. If the event were mask optional and they link a Covid breakout due to it then that would be really bad for the upcoming NCAA season, but if it goes without a hitch that is better. I like Basch's podcast, but I do not agree with his statement. I am curious if he has the same tone when B10's and NCAA's come around as I do not see a scenario where they are maskless.
That really was an amazing conversation. JO was thinking about subtleties that I could never have imagined. It reminds me of Kobe Bryant describing how he analyzed the task of defending Kevin Durant and of Josey Wales describing how he decided which guy to shoot first.
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Lone Watie: How ’bout the one on the right?
Josie Wales: Never paid him no mind; you were there.
Masks Forever! We can't have anyone get sick ever again. We need more safe spaces.
To answer your question, yes I am vaccinated and I had the virus. Neither were a big deal to myself or my family because we take care of ourselves.
My suggestion would be maybe something like this... If you are concerned about catching the virus from the ongoing pandemic, you should protect yourself with a properly fitted N95 mask. Good Luck!
My earlier response was to the Foley and Basch tweet that was posted. What is the tremendous harm that has come to USA wrestling because of "Anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers"?
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his "my wife won't get the vaccine because we're trying to get pregnant, so i'm not going to get it out of solidarity" take is one of the dumbest i've heard.
Who’s take is that? Have to agree it’s one of the dumbest I’ve heard yet.
I don’t wear pants. Thankfully I have the opinion to put my balls out. I don’t let them bully me!
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