Dake not only getting younger - he’s getting dumber
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Dake is kind of famous (infamous) for promoting some of these "New Age Healing" remedies...there are more than a few interviews (videos) with Cornell's coaching staff including Koll himself laughing them off. Whatever gets you through the day I suppose 
It's a good thing he can wrestle at the level he does because he will probably be able to make a long career out of it in some way or another. I wouldn't trust the guy to do much else.
He also thinks learning to swim is stupid. He just laid in a pond until his body adapted. Now he can breath underwater.
Dake is insensitive to people with disabilities. How the hell is Cassar supposed to put a shirt on? #shirtallergy
He's already started training. I'm trying to score this in freestyle but it's tough.
Dake is kind of famous (infamous) for promoting some of these "New Age Healing" remedies...there are more than a few interviews (videos) with Cornell's coaching staff including Koll himself laughing them off. Whatever gets you through the day I suppose
Please tell me Dake is posting these things as a joke and to get some laughs. PLEASE.
Dake is not wrong. People can use shirts (and hats and trees) instead of sunscreen, and a tan does help guard against sunburn, thereby forming a solar callus. You can quibble about the effectiveness of the callus, but it’s not as if he said something crazy.
I suppose he doesnt use fluoride either?
Edit: or antiperspirant??
Edit 2: or asswipes???
Edit: or antiperspirant??
Edit 2: or asswipes???
Scoring this in freestyle should be easy. Simply ask a Cornell lawyer.
He's already started training. I'm trying to score this in freestyle but it's tough.
He’s limiting what he can do outside because of his weird beliefs. He may get away with this in cloudy Ithaca, but he’d have to live like a vampire in hot climates or run from tree to tree.
Woe unto him if he’s traversing a snow field or glacier in any kind of sun and doesn’t put sunscreen on. Have fun with that
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Leather up enough, and maybe those pesky malaria and zika mosquitoes can't penetrate your skin.
Also, George Washington, Babe Ruth, King Leonidas, and others were a bunch of self-limiting dummies because they weirdly did not use sunscreen!
To be clear, he's saying you can build up resistance to SKIN CANCER (not sunburn) by developing a solar callus.
Is he wrong?
[edit: I googled and discovered he is mostly wrong, in the sense that the protection given by tanning seems slight:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-a-base-tan-can-protect-against-sunburn/
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Fair skin complexions need to wear protective clothing or a zinc oxide mineral based sunblock. Many individuals burn every time they are in the sun and do not develop a tan. The more burns you get the more Basal Cell, Squamous Cell, or Melanoma skin cancers you will get. Skin cancers are usually treatable, but it is devastating when a 30 year old dies of melanoma. Also, it is not fun to lose parts of ears, nose, scalp, or face to Mohs skin cancer surgery.
It only takes 15-20 minutes of sun a day to get the recommended vitamin D.
It only takes 15-20 minutes of sun a day to get the recommended vitamin D.
Well, I'm no oncologist. But I know how to type things into google.
By doing so, I can find numerous things from various sources that indicate a "solar callus" (which I think most people would simply call "a tan") actually increases your long term risk of skin cancer.
Ultimately, like many things these days, it likely comes down to who one believes - organizations like the CDC and the Mayo Clinic or a blog post by some guy I've never heard of.
So, to answer your question, I would say...Yes. Kyle Dake is wrong that a tan or "solar callus" provide protection from skin cancer.
Thanks, SS!
I found the same, and edited my post earlier. It’s good to (finally) learn that the tan protection we believed in as kids is woefully minimal.
(BTW, I like long sleeves and hats. I don’t like the oily feel of sunscreen. Other than when boating or swimming outdoors, I don’t need sunscreen.)
Dake is a living, breathing life experiment. He is being used to prove even idiots can get an Ivy league diploma. If you can wrestle well enough.
If Coppertone called Kyle Dake tonight and offered him a $1 mil sponsorship, I bet he’d be smearing that shit on from head to toe.
Dake is...a little different.
I remember watching the FLO doc about him and Taylor (I think) and it featured a scene where his trainer simply placed a tablet of something on his tongue and he INSTANTLY felt its impact.
If these kinds of things work for him, allow him to train and wrestle at his peak performance, that's great. But when he starts dispensing medical advice that is more or less in opposition to medical science, that's a problem.
As one who with a fair complexion and was continuously outside as a kid and now immune suppressed due to transplant, I can assure you that Mr. Dake (if serious) is wrong. I rarely get enough sun to tan or burn anymore, but I have had 4 MOHS surgeries in the last two years. In addition, at each dermatology Appt I have numerous “pre-cancerous” spots frozen. I explained to the dermatologist that I rarely am outside without 80+ sunscreen and I was told that my damage was caused as a kid when I wax unknowingly using the “Dake” method.
Dake should by now have a "rectal callous" from sticking his head up there.
You’re dumb. What do you know about skin and the medical area, nothing moron
Some method to his madness:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/sunscreen-chemicals-accumulate-in-body-at-high-levels-11594978201
https://www.wsj.com/articles/sunscreen-chemicals-accumulate-in-body-at-high-levels-11594978201
Use a zinc oxide mineral based sunblock. They are the safest and give you the best protection.
Clothing like an under armor shirt can protect the trunk, shoulders, back and chest well.
Clothing like an under armor shirt can protect the trunk, shoulders, back and chest well.
As a board certified dermatologist, let me say that Dake is mostly a moron.
No. Please don’t fall into the trap of sensationalist headlines. The gist of the study is “sunscreen, like many other things we put on our skin, does rise to a level that is detectable in the blood. There’s absolutely no evidence to suggest that this is in any way harmful, but it meets the threshold to continue examining the safety and implications.”
Nothing in that study supports anything Dake says at all. And the news article about it is intentionally misleading and sensationalist.
No. Please don’t fall into the trap of sensationalist headlines. The gist of the study is “sunscreen, like many other things we put on our skin, does rise to a level that is detectable in the blood. There’s absolutely no evidence to suggest that this is in any way harmful, but it meets the threshold to continue examining the safety and implications.”
Nothing in that study supports anything Dake says at all. And the news article about it is intentionally misleading and sensationalist.
It’s incredibly refreshing the rare times we have experts on here. Thank you.
I have a funny dermatology related story. Anyway, the one doctor I never skip is my dermatologist. Lots of burns as a kid during the tanning oil days and now living in Austin. I go to a place called Westlake Dermatology & Cosmetic surgery. If you don’t know Austin, Westlake is kind of the Beverly Hills or Lajolla of Austin - lots of big houses and trophy wives.
Appt day is always funny as the Derm and Cosmetic surgery patients are always commingled, but it’s never hard to tell who is there for what department. You’ve got random skin check Appt next to Botox and boob job checkup.
Wth!? You're selling this board short. We have a lot of experts. It's just most of us specialize in sarcasm, smartassery and dumbassery.
Totally fair—I couldn’t even read the article because of paywall. Just thought it was interesting that this was out there the same time Dake’s tweet was being discussed. But it was lazy internetting on my part.
No worries. It doesn’t help that the lay press either doesn’t bother to strive for accuracy when it comes to scientific info, or (possibly more likely) intentionally embellished for effect.
Good point! Spyker is gone and we don't hear from jammenz very often.
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