I think there's a famous quote attributed to some dearly departed physicist about that very type of behavior.but continued to do the same things expecting a different result.
I think there's a famous quote attributed to some dearly departed physicist about that very type of behavior.but continued to do the same things expecting a different result.
I know of a dozen marriages where the best thing that happened is that they broke up.For better or worse
For richer or poorer
In sickness and in health
’Till death do us part
LOL..hilarious!
My personal story, and from many others it could be the same, after I got over the divorce I started dating. I wanted to date every hot gal on the planet. Then I learned that you have two options directionally: damaged divorced moms or single crazy girls. If I took a gal to dinner and a movie, my phone would blow up: had a great time>can't wait till we go out again>haven't heard from you>did I do something wrong?> WTF is wrong with you!> I will NOT BE IGNORED> you can go F yourself, have a nice life> sorry, can we talk?
I got invited into a threesome with a gal that was a dancer for Radiohead. learned I am not a ménage à trois guy. I went out with two hot strippers that were less than hot in real life and hated men.
I found a nice gal who started to pressure me to get married in a couple of weeks.
Then I met my wife as a result of a blind date and the luck that I won two courtside Cavs tickets. She was the epitome of cool. One night, she came to my apartment in a full-length mink. There was a CCD camera where I could see the lobby on my TV and a doorman. He buzzed up and said that there was a young lady wanting to be let up and if I was OK with that. I asked if she was armed. He said "oooh, let me ask. Ma'am, do you have any concealed weapons?" She said, cooly, "Several". He spoke into the phone "Sir, she said she has several concealed weapons!" I said "Send her right up!" That was it, I was done. "You had me at 'concealed weapons'" is our line.
Thanks fellas for the suggestions. I’ll let you know how things play out. Had a good talk today and definitely think there’s hope if the two of us can break out of some stupid/selfish habits.
You married each other for a reason. The two of you need to find that reason again together.Thanks fellas for the suggestions. I’ll let you know how things play out. Had a good talk today and definitely think there’s hope if the two of us can break out of some stupid/selfish habits.
Get one.A sensitive subject I know. Wife and I have been in a tailspin for probably the last couple of years. Been together 10 altogether. Wife is a good person, but drinks too much with work friends (1 DUI) and just seems to have gone off the deep end since her mom died. Don’t think she’s ever been unfaithful, but she’s also way too nice to guys she shouldn’t be. She claims to have accepted a job that will lead to a very long commute 5 days a week and some travel. She knew I had some concerns about this, but just thought I was being jealous because she’d now make more than me (nice promotion). If true - I’m very upset she took the job without us coming to an agreement.
long story short - I’m at the end of my rope. I have a 4 year old and a 9 year old, so I don’t want this at all.
Any advice from guys who have been through tough patches or a divorce?
Yes, they got married for a reason, but a lot of people get married for a reason that really isn't a good reason to get married.You married each other for a reason. The two of you need to find that reason again together.
Hire the biggest A-hole or B$@*h attorney you can find!
Preach.Yes, they got married for a reason, but a lot of people get married for a reason that really isn't a good reason to get married.
Amen.Yes, they got married for a reason, but a lot of people get married for a reason that really isn't a good reason to get married.
And sometimes the person you married ends up being a much different person than the one you thought you married.Yes, they got married for a reason, but a lot of people get married for a reason that really isn't a good reason to get married.
I know several on second marriage and every one is much happier. Seem more relaxed. Maybe the expectations are different as they realize no one is perfect, even themselves.I have more divorced and/or remarried friends who are happy than friends who are truly happy in their first marriage. Pull the plug.
My kids were 4 and 8 when my wife filed for divorce. Both boys were not the same again, sorry to say. Avoid it if at all possible, but if she’s going to shit on you, then divorce her. But get full custody of the kids. I repeat: Get full custody of the kids. They will need as much stability as possible. That was my one mistake. I tried to be the nice guy and do the 50-50 split but it did not work. My boys never got the true stability they needed at their young ages. Get full custody and give your traveling wife time every other weekend or once a month. If traveling is so important to her lifestyle (and booze) she should give up her mother stripes. She doesn’t deserve them. Good luck.A sensitive subject I know. Wife and I have been in a tailspin for probably the last couple of years. Been together 10 altogether. Wife is a good person, but drinks too much with work friends (1 DUI) and just seems to have gone off the deep end since her mom died. Don’t think she’s ever been unfaithful, but she’s also way too nice to guys she shouldn’t be. She claims to have accepted a job that will lead to a very long commute 5 days a week and some travel. She knew I had some concerns about this, but just thought I was being jealous because she’d now make more than me (nice promotion). If true - I’m very upset she took the job without us coming to an agreement.
long story short - I’m at the end of my rope. I have a 4 year old and a 9 year old, so I don’t want this at all.
Any advice from guys who have been through tough patches or a divorce?
This is good advice. Where most guys go wrong when they get married is turning into a weak, wife pleasing guy. You think that is what the wife wants and she thinks so too but it’s really not. You have to be a man. I figured that out about 15 years in and it’s changed my marriage for the better.This is probably going to be a little different than conventional thought, but consider yourself the source for how all others are behaving in life. What is in you, what energy are you radiating, that would cause your wife to drink too much, be too nice to other men, take a job with a long commute? Change yourself first, your wife will follow. It only takes one to change a relationship, mirror effect. Be to her the way you want her to be to you, she will eventually mirror back to you. Be a rock, do not judge, accept everything calm and secure as emotional safety is her #1 need, followed by financial safety. Then work on attracting her all over again.
Some good books: The Way of the Superior Man (Dieda), The Law of Attraction (Byrne). Larry Bilotta can probably help you to work to have your wife mirror back to you what you would like.
And sometimes the person you married ends up being a much different person than the one you thought you married.
I was divorced’. My advice is to sit down. Talk then talk more. Then talk more... find a way to work it out if possible. Your kids deserve you both giving it every possible effort. I was divorced and over the years my friends would ask ... what is it like taking kids back to their Mom ? My response is true...’ it is like going to a funeral every time..’ it never gets easier, it never is okay, it never feels acceptable... it is like attending a funeral for your loved one. Please do better than I did... try and then try harder. I swear you will be glad you did.A sensitive subject I know. Wife and I have been in a tailspin for probably the last couple of years. Been together 10 altogether. Wife is a good person, but drinks too much with work friends (1 DUI) and just seems to have gone off the deep end since her mom died. Don’t think she’s ever been unfaithful, but she’s also way too nice to guys she shouldn’t be. She claims to have accepted a job that will lead to a very long commute 5 days a week and some travel. She knew I had some concerns about this, but just thought I was being jealous because she’d now make more than me (nice promotion). If true - I’m very upset she took the job without us coming to an agreement.
long story short - I’m at the end of my rope. I have a 4 year old and a 9 year old, so I don’t want this at all.
Any advice from guys who have been through tough patches or a divorce?
It’s all about the children - period.A sensitive subject I know. Wife and I have been in a tailspin for probably the last couple of years. Been together 10 altogether. Wife is a good person, but drinks too much with work friends (1 DUI) and just seems to have gone off the deep end since her mom died. Don’t think she’s ever been unfaithful, but she’s also way too nice to guys she shouldn’t be. She claims to have accepted a job that will lead to a very long commute 5 days a week and some travel. She knew I had some concerns about this, but just thought I was being jealous because she’d now make more than me (nice promotion). If true - I’m very upset she took the job without us coming to an agreement.
long story short - I’m at the end of my rope. I have a 4 year old and a 9 year old, so I don’t want this at all.
Any advice from guys who have been through tough patches or a divorce?
Gregg, can you give me a tl;dr summary?LOL..hilarious!
My personal story, and from many others it could be the same, after I got over the divorce I started dating. I wanted to date every hot gal on the planet. Then I learned that you have two options directionally: damaged divorced moms or single crazy girls. If I took a gal to dinner and a movie, my phone would blow up: had a great time>can't wait till we go out again>haven't heard from you>did I do something wrong?> WTF is wrong with you!> I will NOT BE IGNORED> you can go F yourself, have a nice life> sorry, can we talk?
I got invited into a threesome with a gal that was a dancer for Radiohead. learned I am not a ménage à trois guy. I went out with two hot strippers that were less than hot in real life and hated men.
I found a nice gal who started to pressure me to get married in a couple of weeks.
Then I met my wife as a result of a blind date and the luck that I won two courtside Cavs tickets. She was the epitome of cool. One night, she came to my apartment in a full-length mink. There was a CCD camera where I could see the lobby on my TV and a doorman. He buzzed up and said that there was a young lady wanting to be let up and if I was OK with that. I asked if she was armed. He said "oooh, let me ask. Ma'am, do you have any concealed weapons?" She said, cooly, "Several". He spoke into the phone "Sir, she said she has several concealed weapons!" I said "Send her right up!" That was it, I was done. "You had me at 'concealed weapons'" is our line.
'it takes two for a relationship to fail.' I don't know about that. More like it takes two for a relationship to work. Some people are just horrible people and unless you are willing to be a doormat and punching bag there is no way to stay married. I agree try to make it work and do what is best for the kids but the other person may not see it that way. Everyone loves their kids right? It's the most natural thing in the world. No, not everyone loves their kids. Some people don't give a crap about them. Some people hate them. It's just reality and not a comment about the original poster's situation.It’s all about the children - period.
it’s not about you or your wife.
get a good marriage counselor. Go and keep going. Once the couple gets through the finger pointing you will then focus on what you can do to get the responses you want from her.
Don’t kid yourself. She is feeling exactly the way you are. Your feelings are not unique.
Why is she drinking? Stale marriage? Constant criticism?
Chauvinism? Etc…..Eventually you ask yourself what could I have done differently to make this marriage work? She needs to do the same. It’s all about the children.
it takes two for a relationship to fail. If she’s an alcoholic that is a separate treatment impacting the marriage. Why is she drinking and desiring attention?
Have you offered for the family to move with her and you commute?
Can you work remotely?
Anyway, there’s a lot more going on here that needs to be discovered and discussed.
Bottom line line: it’s ALL about the kids. Do everything you can to save the marriage. don’t pull the plug and screw them up. The two parents are screwing up. The kids haven’t done anything wrong!
New relationships after divorce will really impact children. I won’t get into those exponential bullshit problems.
Good luck. Find a GOOD counselor.! Spend the money!!! W
I’ve found a MS degree is the best chance a good one.
I know how to find you on the roadprobably true and one of the reasons why I protect my identity. I know the tech and can erase my digital footprints..but nobody knows who Obliviax is other than a couple of close trusted friends.
But they're not particulary adept at their chosen professions.Head over to the Test Board. You can shake them out with a stick there.
Do everything you can to try and save your marriage before you bail out of the commitment. Better for all parties if you can fix it . Apparently you two had it together once so try really hard to get it back before you bail.A sensitive subject I know. Wife and I have been in a tailspin for probably the last couple of years. Been together 10 altogether. Wife is a good person, but drinks too much with work friends (1 DUI) and just seems to have gone off the deep end since her mom died. Don’t think she’s ever been unfaithful, but she’s also way too nice to guys she shouldn’t be. She claims to have accepted a job that will lead to a very long commute 5 days a week and some travel. She knew I had some concerns about this, but just thought I was being jealous because she’d now make more than me (nice promotion). If true - I’m very upset she took the job without us coming to an agreement.
long story short - I’m at the end of my rope. I have a 4 year old and a 9 year old, so I don’t want this at all.
Any advice from guys who have been through tough patches or a divorce?
It's not quite that black and white. Sure, if a couple is constantly fighting or there's abuse, then it might be best for the kids if they end it. But divorce is very scarring for children with lifelong impact. It should be the last resort.staying in a bad marriage helps no one- including the children
Define “bad marriage “ . A bit too general a statement. May have different meaning to the reader.staying in a bad marriage helps no one- including the children