Do you have it in you? Are you capable of calling James Franklin into your office and advise him that he is no longer the football coach at PSU?
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This is how the WHOLE thing is broken.
Franklin is not a terrible coach, he is an average coach, and a very good recruiter.
By no means should someone with as little talent and brains as Sandy whatsername be in position to evaluate a football coach at a major university.
If you put Sandy in a small high school's athletic department, she'd probably be the 5th or 6th most competent person there.
We (Penn State) are ridiculous.
Its been 8 years of mediocrity, Franklin is the only constant. Fanboys always have excuses.
Mediocre... Clock management is not even high school level.
Mediocre... Play calling under 4 minutes in countless games... today... no one could explain the last drive for PSU today with 4 min to go... other examples.. USC, multiple OSU games..Indianalast year ... today... We could have won 2 weeks ago... there are countless games..
Mediocre... 3 down conversion..... for how many years... funny how Ill was hammering the QB sneak for 3 yds.. a concept PSU cant get. Add this to late game decision making.. Need a first down to ice the game... Franklin can not figure out how to get it down... beyond give it to Cain up the middle... Cain and up the middle are mediocre
Mediocre.... PSU OLine for 8 years...
Mediocre... Development beyond one level. We played a Qb who could not run or throw because the next guy up is so bad after a bye week.... WTF... PJ goes down.. and he is baffled Ill ran right up the middle for 300 plus yards..
Mediocre... Having the team ready to play at the first kickoff. How many games are we behind in the first half. Preparing the team to play. He has nuts to say they werent prepared to play today... Ill give him that..
The entire game today was less than mediocre... the whole mess...
These things cost PSU games... wins... they ultimately fall on Franklin....thats mediocre...
I would like to add that Franklin graduates players.. and is a good rep for the team and university. I actually like him but beyond that... he is an average game day coach....
How is it The Great Recruiter was unable to recruit a decent, not good or great, backup quarterback from the portal?
Yet despite that Franklin still wins more than all but a handful of coaches. So who you replacing him with that is going to win more. Because that’s all that really matters.
(I’d trade him for Urban in a heartbeat, even with the recent issues)
I answered the original question.. Do you have it in you to fire Franklin. I do.. He is mediocre in critical areas of his job. It is not hard to give examples.... so many... Its not hard to fire average employees based on work performance. He is average on game day. I even said how I would do it... . I have no idea who the next coach would be..... hopefully someone better on game day...
We’re an elite program and all quarterbacks want to hold clipboards here, except for the guys already holding clipboards here, if only Franklin would slide into their dms.
That is a fair assessment at this point. I'm not one of those who say fire him now, but the overall performance level is below expectations in my opinion. I just don't see it happening for this program in the foreseeable future, and am starting to lose interest. Face it, we like to think we're one of the so-called blue bloods, but we're nowhere near that anymore.
I am not so sure, but if Penn State did take every one of Clemson's playoff berths...... how many games does Penn State win? My guess is zero.
I don’t think we take every one of them. I think we make it more than we have. Our only team that I think would have had the talent to win a playoff game was 2017.
Well..... then by recruiting territory alone, Franklin should have Penn State in the playoff every year. I know you kid, but you point out well that Penn State is not at recruiting disadvantage.
I have a much more optimistic outlook. I think Franklin has proven that a head coach can recruit talented players to Penn State. Many thought that demographic changes made it impossible to assemble championship level players in PA. Franklin proved it can be done. Now Penn State needs a coach to take the next step.
This loss is extremely disappointing, but the only way that PSU is "nowhere near" being a blueblood is if you limit the list of bluebloods to only 5 teams.
Agreed.
I would add that with CFB going to semi-pro/minor league, graduating players may no longer be a goal. Sad.
Because QB's are not in the portal to be backups. They're in the portal to be starters.
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Unless the next guy can’t…..recruiting is a talent and not every coach can do it. The problem is if the next guy can’t, you set the program back many years and it may never recover or at least not for a long time. That’s quite a roll of the dice to try and get to a level we probably won’t get to anyway. Even if we find another good coach, we likely take a step back for a couple years then work our way back to where we’re at right now and not go any higher. Then what? Fire the next guy and do it all over again?
Top 5 most overrated coaches in college football. PSU has so many built in advantages. That being said, they kicked our asses. Karma will be a bitch though….🙂
Serious? Home state school and great facilities to start. Only school in the Northeast that’s worth a shit. Not to mention the great football history. Is that enough? Because I can go on…
stadium of 100+K, with fans to fill it, on TV every game.... put players in the NFL, lots of players in the first 3 rounds of the draft..., good academics (we did at one point).... graduate players.. Joe and CJF... Im adding more...
How can you even question this? There are three top notch programs in the big 10 simply by size and prior success - Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.
Those three teams are going to be at the top, even if they have lower quality coaches. Really, it is that simple. It is NOT more complicated.
Any coach at PSU should have a record around 0.700 winning percentage, simply because they are going to have better players.
Any coach at Michigan and Ohio State should be the same.
That's why fans at Ohio State are happy with their coach - because they know he's clocking in above the long term average they can expect.
That's why fans at Penn State and Michigan are not happy with their coach - Michigan because they're underperforming, and us because we're neutral.
That's it.
You are normally a rational poster, but you're not being rational here.
Players can actually put a subject verb object sentence together, well spoken, Cheerleaders who are a B (no USC and No SEC) but quality... ok... im stretching it
That’s about where we’re at. You either have multiple playoff appearances or you’re mediocre if I’m reading everything here correctly. Also, we have a f* ton of whiney entitled b*techies in this fan base with selective memory.
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There is a 4th program in the conference that has more all time wins than psu and more national titles. Yet you neglect to mention them for some reason. They’re a great example of what happens when a fan base decides it deserves better than its current coach but has no plan in place for the next one. They also play in the easy division.
I meant pelini. Nebraska fans thought 9/10 win seasons were below them, and now they don’t even get to .500.
Home state school in a state with declining talent. Also playing in the toughest division in football and up against OSU every year. Less than stellar facilities. An administration not fully committed to being a football power. Coming off some of the worst sanctions in the history of college football and a stain on the school’s reputation like no other. Sorry, that didn’t just go away. Treated like a red headed step child in our own conference. And we may have a great football history, but we don’t quite get the respect that other programs get….like our coach being named for every opening that comes around as if our program is a stepping stone job, or the fact that we have more undefeated seasons without a NC than any other school. There may be some built in advantages but there are just as many built in disadvantages.
