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So if the Cutch comments hold that NS is working a camp, that means the foot is coming along......which I am thankful to hear. I want the best for the young man. Nothing else matters. Great talent, who got better at PSU. If he goes, good for him......he did what he thinks is best for him. I want him to stay but I also want to be taller.
I'm not worried about the team so much if he were to leave, they would figure it out. Pretty darn hard to beat with him, still clear favorites, without. What I would miss is his attitude and personality (and of course the talent).
I really hope this is all smoke because I love watching him. He has the Zain mentality. One thing you can bet is he will never ever quit or give anything other than 100%, both on and off the mat. A great example and fun to watch from where I sit.
I really hope this is all smoke because I love watching him. He has the Zain mentality. One thing you can bet is he will never ever quit or give anything other than 100%, both on and off the mat. A great example and fun to watch from where I sit.
Does anyone seriously think if Suriano has to forfeit a year of eligibility he is transferring to Rutgers (or Iowa for that matter)? His goal was to be a four-time champ. Now he is going to resign himself to be a two-time champ at best? A place like Iowa State would make more sense and it doesn't make much sense.
I've heard this said before, but I don't take it as truth. Not a shot at Brian ...
Last summer we were looking at a logjam in the middle weights:
149 - taken
157 - taken
165 - Cenzo returning, or Hall coming in
174 - Bo
Not to mention the annual hopefulness of Rasheed somewhere
Then
184 - Cutch
197 - Cassar (at best he might return to health in time for the spring season) and Stout
If Bo wanted to move up, and he could beat Cutch, why would that be viewed poorly by the staff? Hall coming off redshirt and winning it all at 174 made the scenario a perfect storm. If he had struggled we might be having a different discussion. But Cassar was a huge health risk, and Stout was not ready. 197 was a huge huge hole that Cutch filled admirably. The team lineup was better with Bo moving up.
Yes, if Bo certified at 174 that was good for an uncertain year. But the team was clearly better with the shift.
125 is entirely different obviously. I don't think the greater fan base thought Suriano would hold 125 for four years. He was obviously a big 125, and was lean as hell. If we got the right 125 behind him I could easily see him bumping. If he cannot hold 125 and be healthy this is a moot point. The question then becomes who mans the weight. The Keener addition clearly implies that we had Suriano penciled in at 125 for the next season. It's a 1-year bandaid at 133. It's 2019 that is the bigger question.
But we'll see.
Hoping Suriano will hold 125 for 3 years. Teasdale can start his true freshman year and then take a redshirt in 19-20 to allow for Suriano to 133. By that time, hopefully PSU has McHenry, Teske, or someone else. Worst case a 4th year, filled-out Devin Schnupp
Or perhaps Teasdale can make 125 for one year and then use a RS.
Or perhaps Teasdale can make 125 for one year and then use a RS.
Good post MD. If memory serves, Cael spoke about the Nickal weight change during one of his weekly radio shows. Not 100% sure on that, but I remember either hearing him speak about it or reading quotes where he addressed it. Not sure it was viewed "poorly" per se, but rather it wasn't his (Cael's) preference at the time (if I remember and/or interpreted him correctly - I'm wrong a lot
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Why would he have to forfeit a year of eligibility? He would have to sit out a year but he has a redshirt
year available.
Big10 transfer rules stipulate regardless of release status if Nick were to transfer to a fellow Big10 school he must sit out 1 academic year and forfeit a year's eligibility. So in 2018-19 Nick would be allowed to compete for Rutgers, and he would have 3 years to use his 2 remaining years of eligibility.
Pardon me, but could you tell me when the schedule will be released?
What mat is the Carton v Pletcher match ?
Is anyone else having trouble with the Flo feed?
This reminds me of going to Rutgers matches, where the fans deride referees for correctly following college rules, of which the fans are unaware.
Then I try to explain the rules to someone near me and they look at me dumbfounded and ask "really?". No, I'm just making it up.This reminds me of going to Rutgers matches, where the fans deride referees for correctly following college rules, of which the fans are unaware.
That happens at EVERY school that I have been to, including PSU.
Much more prevalent and virulent at Rutgers, trust me. I've been to college matches (D1) at Cornell, Lehigh, Rider, Penn, PSU, West Point and Rutgers in the last few years and it's at a mind-boggling level at Rutgers.
Ever try explaining the rules to the Nebraska announcers?This reminds me of going to Rutgers matches, where the fans deride referees for correctly following college rules, of which the fans are unaware.
Hmmm Tyler Graff is leaving the fledgling NJ wrestling club for VT. Can't help with their lightweight recruiting, I'm guessing....
http://www.southeastrtc.com/tyler-graff/
http://www.southeastrtc.com/tyler-graff/
This was one of the big reasons Nick was/is considering Rutgers. This is good news for PSU
Frank will probably be a good influence on Graff, who has all the talent but can't close the deal.
Glad to see you're still among us . . . after the 16-page masterpiece that followed your initial disclosure, I was worried you might have gone Steve Bartman on us.
Im not hiding. Just pass on info when I have it. The person who originally told me (again this is someone on the Rutgers staff) went from saying its a done deal. Suriano is coming to Rutgers. He is now saying we are still working on it.Glad to see you're still among us . . . after the 16-page masterpiece that followed your initial disclosure, I was worried you might have gone Steve Bartman on us.
They are trying to get him eligible immediately. I have no clue how they could pull that off but if they do he insists he will be wrestling for Rutgers next year.
Just to add to this. The day he called me and thought it was a done deal he was happy as could be. This time when I talked to him he was no where near as excited. The way I am thinking this one goes is Suriano stays at PSU
If your staff member source truly believes that's possible it's probably no wonder Rutgers hasn't closed the deal because the B1G is pretty cut and dried on intra-conference transfers for already matriculated student-athletes, and it's not even a restriction the releasing team could waive. Assuming the accuracy of everything you've said, the most likely explanation to square your source''s initial excitement and subsequent sobriety is that he didn't understand the rules and now can't deliver.
Nothing around Rec Hall in regards to Nick NOT coming back. The 2 guys i ask laughed about it....
It's the Rutgers way. I went to grad school there for a year with a TA. The position included a stipend and free tuition. They didn't want me to start classes until my tuition was paid.
Damn Jefe, you don't pull any punches. That was a real fist to the back.
I am just saying.
The only way Rutgers has had a conversation with Nick about transferring is if Penn State has given them permission or if Nick has withdrawn from Penn State.
Nick has not withdrawn and despite not being on campus Nick as a representative of the NLWC has been working the wrestling camps he was scheduled to work. The possibility that Rutgers has been granted permission to actively recruit Nick is so small it is in the preposterous realm.
This is great news if true. Have you verified he's actually been working camps with NLWC? I don't doubt you it's just that it seems from everything I've read he's no where to be found.
I was told Nick has been at several camps through the summer. The people telling me were a wrestling alum who is close to McCutcheon, and several other folks who have regular contact with the program.
The point of my post was rather simple. The kid is still a Penn State student athlete. Rutgers would need permission from Penn State to discuss with Nick the possibilities of transfering to Rutgers. Unless everybody has come to the conclusion it is time for each party (Nick and PSU) to go their separate ways it makes not a nickel's worth of sense to think Nick has been told hey go see what you can work out with Rutgers and let us know what you are going to do. We will keep a spot open for you just in case.
That is all very true. I have no doubt that discussions get done behind the scenes from intermediaries. Rutgers talks to a friend of the Suriano family after being approached by the friend. Of course it is all hypotheticals too.
Another issue would be how much scholarship money does Rutgers have available for 2017-2018? At this point they most likely have all the scholarship dollars allocated to the team.
All we know at this point is that Suriano is currently a student at PSU and has not withdrawn.
16 pages and we're back to where we started. Throw another rumor, made up or half alive, see if we can top it.
But, if they didn't understand the B1G transfer rule, maybe they don't understand theis one, either.
