Drexel dual - Sun, Nov 17

[billrag]

Re: Davis - they would check for structural integrity. Doesn’t mean he’d be fully functioning. He did what he had to do in the first week of the season given the circumstance

Yeah, I'm not trying to be critical and I'm glad that he won, you just hate to see a guy hanging on and maybe a bit scared to wrestle to win (versus wrestling not to lose). Although he had a remarkable freshman season and absolutely showed some "toughs" at different times of the year, he had a few matches like that last season as well. Not complaining, just pointing it out.

 

[Random4598375]

125: TrFr are allowed 5 dates attached, right? LL would be down to 4 but could theoretically still RS.

133: It’d be pretty surprising to me if McHenry would be effective at 133 since to date the thinking was he was too small for 125. But that’s all conjecture.

Yes, he would still have 4 attached dates, but if there were any plan at all to RS him, there's no way they would burn a date for a forfeit. Either send someone else out for the forfeit or just double forfeit the weight. It's not like there was a chance in hell it would cost them the dual.

 

[Random4598375]

I know that Facundo is getting savaged here, but one thing that I took from the match which is very much a positive, is that it didn't appear that Alex gassed at all and I was a bit worried about that. Could he wrestle with a bit more swagger? Sure, OK, but if they've talked Kasak into a redshirt for whatever reason, it looks like Facundo will probably be fine out there and I didn't really get the sense that he's sucked down to nothing either, I thought he looked a bit better than I would have expected regarding his weigh cut.

Yeah, again, I trust Cael, and one match in November is just one match in November. I'm just saying the early returns for Kasak are way better than for Facundo so far. There's still plenty of time to sort it out, though.

 

[jack66]

I favored Kasek taking a RS with Alex wrestling this season, but that was based on the two being close. After this weekend I'm not sure that's the case.

 

[NittanyLion84]

For those who don’t have BIG+
Carter Starocci vs Giuseppe Hoose

 

[SlipperyPete12]

Here's the entire dual, even though it says highlights.

Davis - Starts it off
Nasdeo - 13:50
Pierce - 26:00
Facundo - 37:30
Mesenbrink - 47:00
Haines - 55:00
Starocci - 1:02:00
Cochran - 1:11:00
Kerk - 1:15:45

 

[Nitlion1986]

I just watched that replay of the match and had a couple of thoughts. Davis didn't really appear to be favoring the leg by the end of his match and I'm sure that he's OK, but it was clear that his mindset changed after tweaking the knee and you hate to see that. Obviously, you have to have some sense of self-preservation and you don't want a kid getting hurt by wrestling on a bum knee, but you also have to wrestle and dominate and not think too much about it after you've been checked by a trainer and given the go ahead.

I know that Facundo is getting savaged here, but one thing that I took from the match which is very much a positive, is that it didn't appear that Alex gassed at all and I was a bit worried about that. Could he wrestle with a bit more swagger? Sure, OK, but if they've talked Kasak into a redshirt for whatever reason, it looks like Facundo will probably be fine out there and I didn't really get the sense that he's sucked down to nothing either, I thought he looked a bit better than I would have expected regarding his weigh cut.

Davis was walking with a slight limp leaving the mat after his match.
If there was any doubt about whether it was an ouch moment or an injury they would have stopped the match.
However, whatever was tweaked and to what degree it scared the snot out of Davis.

 

[Nitlion1986]

Considering how tough Facundo wrestled in the trials I was anticipating a different animal yesterday.
It may be only two data points, but they are significantly weighted data points. Kasak wrestled a highly ranked opponent and never looked in danger of not winning. Facundo wrestled a not highly ranked opponent, that Kasak most certainly would have bonused, and won a closely contested match.
That plus Kasak as a true freshman finished 3rd and Facundo a year prior and as a RS freshman was completely not ready to AA.

This weekend's data points are not in a vacuum, they are simply the most recent. If Facundo is going to be the 157 pounder this year he needs to perform much better than yesterday. Otherwise by January it will be Kasak's weight.

 

[baccafarmer]

Was the picture on stream kinda strange looking for anyone else? I had lines through some of the picture. It reminded me of old Nintendo games.

Yes - I got a bunch of pixel shimmy at the beginning. It went away as soon as I put Ironhead on the Bluetooth.

 

[FatWoodchuck]

Considering how tough Facundo wrestled in the trials I was anticipating a different animal yesterday.
It may be only two data points, but they are significantly weighted data points. Kasak wrestled a highly ranked opponent and never looked in danger of not winning. Facundo wrestled a not highly ranked opponent, that Kasak most certainly would have bonused, and won a closely contested match.
That plus Kasak as a true freshman finished 3rd and Facundo a year prior and as a RS freshman was completely not ready to AA.

This weekend's data points are not in a vacuum, they are simply the most recent. If Facundo is going to be the 157 pounder this year he needs to perform much better than yesterday. Otherwise by January it will be Kasak's weight.

Fucando and Bozakis are on the exact same level, both great talents that can't figure it out in D1 and it's a shame for both such promising recruits/talents, but it happens

 

[Kale_yeah]

Hell all kasak does is beat all Americans.

 

[McScoreley]

Kasak had a bad dual meet debut last year and only beat Drew Munch by 2 points. I wouldn't make any major judgements on Alex yet, but I think Kasak will be the guy come March because his style is more conducive to NCAA success

Tyler was a true freshman making a Rec Hall debut who was still a 141 (weighed in at 145) and found out he was wrestling because a teammate just likely suffered a season ending injury. Not apples to apples.

 

[McScoreley]

Cael said obviously an MRI will be the final answer but Dan Monthley basically never misses on his "injury on mat tests" and he deemed Braeden was okay to continue if he wanted. Basically said Braeden will be good.