Everything Gophers?

[CropDuster507]

I've noticed that the outcry about Duals deciding the NCAA Champion from Gopher fans (not including grappler6, don't worry) has kind of died off in their down year. It's almost as if they had ulterior motives besides "what's best for the sport of wrestling"...

 

[dunkej01]

Tonight at 9pm EST (on BTN) will be my annual ritual of forgetting Im a PSU fan for a two hours and rooting for the black and gold. I very much look forward to seeing a blowout of epic proportions!!

CD: You couldnt be more right on this point. thank goodness they have all of those Championship shirts leftover to cry on.

 

[clucas]

tidbit: PSU has a winning record against almost all teams. They even started out with a 5-0 record against Minny since their first meeting in 1986. As you all know the tide quickly turned and Penn State hasn't beaten the Gophers since Feb 6, 1998. Other teams with losing records to:
Illinois......... 6-9 began 1956
Iowa........... 8-26-2 began 1982
Iowa State. 10-13-1 began 1921
Okie State.. 6-12-1 began 1982

That streak would be over if they wrestled this year....it will have to wait to be broken until next year so you can enjoy the next 12 months or so of being able to use that argument although I'm not sure there is much to enjoy about Minnesota wrestling these days. Maybe Mark Hall will be in the lineup next year just to rub salt in the wound? That would be extra special.

 

[grappler6]

I've noticed that the outcry about Duals deciding the NCAA Champion from Gopher fans (not including grappler6, don't worry) has kind of died off in their down year. It's almost as if they had ulterior motives besides "what's best for the sport of wrestling"...

My POV has shifted regarding a dual championship. I like the current model and nationals are a great time. I wish duals could be incorporated, but not to replace ind tournament. A hybrid model could work, but the point totals that were assigned were too many. I don't see a compromise coming. Their current national duals BCS type model with Big Ten and non Big Ten teams could develop into a nice end of the year event and it puts more weight on dual results. I just have strong belief in the energy and excitement from within a dual. Highlighting that is important.

 

[jammenz]

All Gopher team post 1964 as voted by fans:

125) Zach Sanders (134-27-1, AA 6, 5, 5, 3) received 69% of the votes.
Ed Giese (159-34-3, AA 3rd) beat Jack Cuvo, Jim Martin, and Mark Schwab, leads Gophers: 159 career wins, 54 season, received 19% votes
133) Jason Ness (148-15, AA 5, 2, 3, 1, Leads Gophers in pins with 73, only Hodge winner) was a landslide winner with over 96%
Ryan Lewis 51-11, AA 2, 2
141) Jim Martinez (115-15-1, AA 3, 3, received 61%
Chad Erickson, 105-37, AA 8,7 Had 40 pins, 22% of votes
149) Jared Lawrence (130-23, AA 6,6,1,2 Ranks 10th in career victories) 50% voting
Dustin Schlatter (114-10, AA 1, 3, 7, ranks 2nd with 65 consecutive wins, 4th in career winning %) 44% votes
157) Luke Becker (126-29, AA 6,4,1,4, 29 pins) 77% votes
Chad Kraft (115-23, AA 5,3,2,3) 20% votes
165) Larry Zilverberg (82-4-1, AA 2,3,6, with 25 pins, 1st career win %)
Jacob Volkman (127-36, AA 4,3,4 34 pins) 33% votes received
174) Logan Storley (119-27, AA 6,4,3,4) with over 98% dominated the weakest weight class.
184) Marty Morgan (110-12, AA 6,2,1 5th with 47 pins, consecutive wins streaks of 39 and 32) got 54% of the vote (100% from those that saw him wrestle)
Brandon Eggum (115-23, AA 5,2,3,1) 37% votes
197) Tim Hartung (133-21, AA 3,1,1, 48 pins) Damion Hahn (118-21, AA 5,5,1,1,) tied for first with only one vote separation
hvy) Cole Konrad (155-13, AA 4,2,1,1 ....3rd with 50 pins, 2nd in career wins, 1st with 76 consecutive wins) dominated with 84%
Brock Lesnar (55-3, AA 2,1 ...... 23 pins, tied 1st for career winning %) got 8% votes

Dardanes bros, Dylan Ness, Schiller, and Nelson weren't included as they were still competing.

I concluded with this observation: I've made so many mistakes doing these that I'm not sure the polls are worth anything.

 

[ZepGraffiti]

All Gopher team post 1964 as voted by fans:

125) Zach Sanders (134-27-1, AA 6, 5, 5, 3) received 69% of the votes.
Ed Giese (159-34-3, AA 3rd) beat Jack Cuvo, Jim Martin, and Mark Schwab, leads Gophers: 159 career wins, 54 season, received 19% votes
133) Jason Ness (148-15, AA 5, 2, 3, 1, Leads Gophers in pins with 73, only Hodge winner) was a landslide winner with over 96%
Ryan Lewis 51-11, AA 2, 2
141) Jim Martinez (115-15-1, AA 3, 3, received 61%
Chad Erickson, 105-37, AA 8,7 Had 40 pins, 22% of votes
149) Jared Lawrence (130-23, AA 6,6,1,2 Ranks 10th in career victories) 50% voting
Dustin Schlatter (114-10, AA 1, 3, 7, ranks 2nd with 65 consecutive wins, 4th in career winning %) 44% votes
157) Luke Becker (126-29, AA 6,4,1,4, 29 pins) 77% votes
Chad Kraft (115-23, AA 5,3,2,3) 20% votes
165) Larry Zilverberg (82-4-1, AA 2,3,6, with 25 pins, 1st career win %)
Jacob Volkman (127-36, AA 4,3,4 34 pins) 33% votes received
174) Logan Storley (119-27, AA 6,4,3,4) with over 98% dominated the weakest weight class.
184) Marty Morgan (110-12, AA 6,2,1 5th with 47 pins, consecutive wins streaks of 39 and 32) got 54% of the vote (100% from those that saw him wrestle)
Brandon Eggum (115-23, AA 5,2,3,1) 37% votes
197) Tim Hartung (133-21, AA 3,1,1, 48 pins) Damion Hahn (118-21, AA 5,5,1,1,) tied for first with only one vote separation
hvy) Cole Konrad (155-13, AA 4,2,1,1 ....3rd with 50 pins, 2nd in career wins, 1st with 76 consecutive wins) dominated with 84%
Brock Lesnar (55-3, AA 2,1 ...... 23 pins, tied 1st for career winning %) got 8% votes

Dardanes bros, Dylan Ness, Schiller, and Nelson weren't included as they were still competing.

I concluded with this observation: I've made so many mistakes doing these that I'm not sure the polls are worth anything.

Am I reading this correctly?
This All-Star line-up of the past 50 years only produced 4 individual titles thru the first 8 weight classes?? At least the guys at 197/Hwt were able to double that total & give the entire team a whopping 8.

 

[jammenz]

Here is Flo's promo for Minny's 2001 ten All-American title team: http://www.flowrestling.org/video/905450-minnesota-keepers-of-the-flame

 

[James P. Whitters III]

That was one heck of a deep team. I believe D. Ness would have won a title without the injuries which really slowed him down his last couple of years. He was a joy to watch compete.

 

[dicemen99]

Here is Flo's promo for Minny's 2001 ten All-American title team: http://www.flowrestling.org/video/905450-minnesota-keepers-of-the-flame

I've got to say, this thread has worked out even better than expected. Now, bring on Tognetti!!!!!

 

[nagromth]

I'll play, my relatives came over on the Mayflower, BFD, what does that do for me today? in this ADHD world, it's all about "what have you done lately?"
Let's change the parameters of your search?
In the 21st Century, how many National Titles by Minny?
How many National and B1G Champions?
How many Coach of the Year Awards?
How many National Championship T-shirts did you buy in 2014 and how many do you have left?

I give it to Minny, they have had our number in Duals, but when the $$ and big boys put it on the line, PSU all the way baby!

Thanks for playing!

 

[jammenz]

I cut it off at 1964 because I wanted wrestlers that I and others had actually seen. Otherwise you get Vern Gagne at hvy.

 

[jammenz]

Here's a chart of school colors. Byers please take note.

 

[tomsc]

kr did this on other sites (rest, in peace), then CD started it again on Guillotine. Not a bad idea...Tom??

Don't know which Tom you're referring to, Roar, but I do miss TWT and I liked KR's All Things PSU there--certainly generated a lot of discussion with the Iowa fans!

 

[jammenz]

Keeper of the Flame pt 2. The Gophers needed to win two finalist matches for the team title. Eggum loses to Cael Sanderson, Hartung beat Lee Fullhart, but Brock Lesner loses to Stephen Neal.
Hartung "Those little pricks from Iowa. Doug Schwab walks by me with the trophy held high and I just wanted to snap his neck."

 

[matter7172]

Keeper of the Flame pt 2. The Gophers needed to win two finalist matches for the team title. Eggum loses to Cael Sanderson, Hartung beat Lee Fullhart, but Brock Lesner loses to Stephen Neal.
Hartung "Those little pricks from Iowa. Doug Schwab walks by me with the trophy held high and I just wanted to snap his neck."

Maybe instead of breaking the little guy's neck, he should have defeated the big guy he wrestled. Just saying.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Who do you think I am?

Doing your whole JC - Pontious Pilot routine?

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Tidbit: in the last 20 years 25 % of the winners of the Hodge Award as wrestler of the year has been Cael Sanderson or a wrestler coached by Cael

And looks like he might be adding to that total this year....

 

[WildTurk]

Meh.. Minnysoda is like little brother isu to me. Not worth talking about since they are no longer relevant. Also I am no longer a fat shamer. I have learned to enjoy a slightly warmed up Stollhouse chocolate chip cookie with my butterbean ice cream now. I have actually gained 15 pounds in 6 weeks. My wife looks at me like I'm a slice of lemon pie. She is Grossed out! Time to start "training angry" for swimsuit season

 

[jammenz]

Maybe instead of breaking the little guy's neck, he should have defeated the big guy he wrestled. Just saying.

Read it again. Hartung was the sole MN titleist.

 

[matter7172]

Read it again. Hartung was the sole MN titleist.

Yep. My misread.

 

[WildTurk]

I noticed Minnysota got a mention in CP and Willies podcast this morning. I think it was CP that said "Wrestling Minny isn't as Sexy as going to Penn State or Carver". Gave me a little smile

 

[jammenz]

Is Iowa really changing their singlet?

 

[dicemen99]

Is Iowa really changing their singlet?

Jammenz again with bad info. New Iowa singlet is below:

 

[dicemen99]

Is it any wonder that Foley keeps beating the drum??????

 

[a_mshaffer]

that is a good one... nice current fashionable singlet! I don't want to go there... but I will... wonder what this kid is posing for?

 

[jammenz]

Diceman, I'm surprised that you didn't pick the orange zip-up leather "Borat" singlet next to it. Taste and decorum prevent me from linking to it.

 

[Annieat285]

Jammenz, on a more gold and some dark red color note, I've really enjoyed Keeper of the Flame thus far. As a younger fan of wrestling it gives some real insight into a period of wrestling I didn't follow too closely.

 

[dicemen99]

Diceman, I'm surprised that you didn't pick the orange zip-up leather "Borat" singlet next to it. Taste and decorum prevent me from linking to it.

Yeah, there were a couple of other one on the google search also that came up that I laughed out loud, but didn't link because of "taste and decorum."

It's a tough view for the search for "singlet with an orange on it." Obviously there are parties out there that view the singlet as something more than just for wrestling, lol.

 

[El-Jefe]

Is Iowa really changing their singlet?

I got Jammen's joke ... here is a more obvious version of it:

But even more clever would've been the "other" OSU:

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Is Iowa really changing their singlet?

Technically speaking, shouldn't Dresser have really called the Brands brothers Lemons and Yellow based on the implied behavior??? Don't really get the Oranges and orange reference.

 

[jammenz]

Minnesota wrestling legends:http://www.mtcstorm.com/staff/legends

 

[jammenz]

http://www.mtcstorm.com/history/olympic-and-world-team-members

 

[GOLDBANGER]

Diceman, I'm surprised that you didn't pick the orange zip-up leather "Borat" singlet next to it. Taste and decorum prevent me from linking to it.

"Taste and decorum"...I'm marinating in that comment.

 

[Ja1339]

Cropduster started a "All Hail Cael" thread on the Guillotine; http://forum.theguillotine.com/topic/9204678/1/

Which got me thinking that maybe Penn State fans would like a Gopher thread maintained, all my fascinating tidbits in one place.

Hey it's not too late to jump on the PSU Wrestling bandwagon. These guys are a lot of fun to watch. Just saying

 

[jammenz]

The only thing that Cael has done that I like is to give the old guys seats front and center.

 

[PSU-Knocker]

Shouldn't the title of this thread be "Anything? Gophers"

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Shouldn't the title of this thread be "Anything? Gophers"

Do the Goofs still sponsor a wrestling team?

 

[jammenz]

Gophers voted the best team inhttp://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/...history?cid=ncaawrestlingsocial_tw_sf21701621 history:

 

[eet5017]

Cropduster started a "All Hail Cael" thread on the Guillotine; http://forum.theguillotine.com/topic/9204678/1/

Which got me thinking that maybe Penn State fans would like a Gopher thread maintained, all my fascinating tidbits in one place.

I don't think you'll get much traffic. Minnesota is irrelevant.

 

[PSU-Knocker]

Gophers voted the best team inhttp://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/...history?cid=ncaawrestlingsocial_tw_sf21701621 history:

Congratulations!