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Fair expectations for Brooks

It's uncanny how much of David Taylor and J'Den Cox I see in Aaron's wrestling. I understand he's a freshman but the sky's the limit for this young man. It's a pleasure to watch him compete.
 
Am I wrong in saying that he along with Beard, Nevills, and Joe Lee were already out of high school one year under the so-called grey shirt year ( or was it this year).
If so, he should be more developed than he otherwise would have been.

Yes. Beard, Nevills and Aaron all graduated in 2018 and grey shirted. RBY did not.
 
Which post should I "like", Cowbell ;)?
COWBELL’S SECOND POST NEEDS MORE LIKES TO CATCH UP TO HIS FIRST POST!!

WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN!

EVERYBODY SHOULD GO LIKE COWBELL’S SECOND POST (#66) NOW!!!

I LIKED THAT POST FIVE TIMES MYSELF USING THE 800 NUMBER!!!
 
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Just remembered this article somehow: https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/ins...cle_d26328de-ba40-11e9-a7f8-2f7f146139c1.html

"(Penn State coach Cael Sanderson) told me they believe I could win at any weight class this year, 174 or 184," Brooks said. "But I told Coach I wouldn't want to get down to 174, so put someone else in there. And at 184, (All-American Shakur Rasheed, a sixth-year senior) is back. I don't know if they're going to make us wrestle off or ask me to redshirt or see what I want to do.
 
Some of my fair expectations for AB.

Fun
Aaron
Is
wRestling

Finally
Aaron
Is
Reigning

Fantastic
Aaron
Isn’t
Retreating

Flo
And
Iowa are
Rattled
 
Just remembered this article somehow: https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/ins...cle_d26328de-ba40-11e9-a7f8-2f7f146139c1.html

"(Penn State coach Cael Sanderson) told me they believe I could win at any weight class this year, 174 or 184," Brooks said. "But I told Coach I wouldn't want to get down to 174, so put someone else in there. And at 184, (All-American Shakur Rasheed, a sixth-year senior) is back. I don't know if they're going to make us wrestle off or ask me to redshirt or see what I want to do.
Well I'll go with what Cael said
 
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I hate to put a damper on things, but, armbartilt from HR has assured me that there is currently an ongoing investigation being done by the Big 10 into PSU illegally paying their recruits. He said that this is being done in the open and everyone is aware.

When I asked for a link or proof, I was called several names and told to stop typing from my mother's basement. He assures me that the day of reckoning is upon us at any moment.

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

Funny enough, despite his juvenile responses neither Grip or Turk (or anyone else) were there to police him, which I thought was something they claimed to do.
And after 8 National Titles, rossell says Cael still hasn't proven he's a great coach. In what world must one live in to write such nonsense.
 
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Thankful for the current state of PSU wrestling, we are truly blessed.

Worth talking about, for sure … with reasonable people. Too many try to provoke our fan base, and nearly every time they get the satisfaction of heading into the proverbial gutter. It's noise, nothing more. Ignore, 8 of 9 speaks for itself.
 
There's no point conversing with folks that sling mud. Only pigs enjoy wallowing in mud. People simply get muddy for no reason, then request a shower, pigs don't.
 
From what I have watched of Brooks I would say that he could very likely be a 4 time national champ. Most likely his biggest worry could be not to have any injury..Really has only I feel one man to beat to win this year and that is Zaid who is good yes but is beat able. Be fun to watch this Brooks wrestle for the next 4 years.
 
From what I have watched of Brooks I would say that he could very likely be a 4 time national champ. Most likely his biggest worry could be not to have any injury..Really has only I feel one man to beat to win this year and that is Zaid who is good yes but is beat able. Be fun to watch this Brooks wrestle for the next 4 years.


Zahid was “good” last year at 74. Great this year at a more comfy 84. This would be an epic win for true frosh AB to knock off a 2 time 5th year senior.
I doubt many guys can claim that.
 
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There's no point conversing with folks that sling mud. Only pigs enjoy wallowing in mud. People simply get muddy for no reason, then request a shower, pigs don't.

Some of my favorite sayings on this general topic: "Better to remain silent and thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.", "A fool's lips walk into a fight and his mouth invites a beating.", and "Whoever meddles in a quarrel not his own is like one who takes a passing dog by the ears." :cool:
 
Zahid was “good” last year at 74. Great this year at a more comfy 84. This would be an epic win for true frosh AB to knock off a 2 time 5th year senior.
I doubt many guys can claim that.
If they meet at the NCAA Championship it will be very interesting given it will be a one-off match. You never know what can happen in that situation. There is a ton of film on Zahid, Shak has the length to replicate some of that in the room, and experienced advice from Hall and the coaches. That match-up will be worth the trip to the Twin Cities. I hope it happens.
 
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Some of my favorite sayings on this general topic: "Better to remain silent and thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.", "A fool's lips walk into a fight and his mouth invites a beating.", and "Whoever meddles in a quarrel not his own is like one who takes a passing dog by the ears." :cool:
Also:
“Don’t always apologize,
but when you do,
apologize at length!”
;)
 
If they meet at the NCAA Championship it will be very interesting given it will be a one-off match. You never know what can happen in that situation. There is a ton of film on Zahid, Shak has the length to replicate some of that in the room, and experienced advice from Hall and the coaches. That match-up will be worth the trip to the Twin Cities. I hope it happens.
Shak won’t be able to help. He will be busy focusing on his match in the Finals as well. ;)
 
Zahid was “good” last year at 74. Great this year at a more comfy 84. This would be an epic win for true frosh AB to knock off a 2 time 5th year senior.
I doubt many guys can claim that.
Near 80% bonus rate as a sophomore and junior while at 174. 84% this year is an indiscernible difference imo, given he's a long way from conference tourney and NCAA bouts. Same great wrestler, with a bit of seasoning.
 
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From what I have watched of Brooks I would say that he could very likely be a 4 time national champ. Most likely his biggest worry could be not to have any injury..Really has only I feel one man to beat to win this year and that is Zaid who is good yes but is beat able. Be fun to watch this Brooks wrestle for the next 4 years.

If you would post this 3 more times, I would give you 3 more likes.

Good to have you back minn
 
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Near 80% bonus rate as a sophomore and junior while at 174. 84% this year is an indiscernible difference imo, given he's a long way from conference tourney and NCAA bouts. Same great wrestler, with a bit of seasoning.

Who ya pickin then? AB or Zahid, assuming they meet in the Finals??
 
I’ll guess Roars prediction, “A great match where the best man wins.”
Thing is, the best man doesn't always win. It's what is so fantastic about sports. My response would be something like (or EXACTLY like), I'm looking for good energy and effort from young Mr. Brooks. The rest will take care of itself.
 
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Thing is, the best man doesn't always win. It's what is so fantastic about sports. My response would be something like (or EXACTLY like), I'm looking for good energy and effort from young Mr. Brooks. The rest will take care of itself.
You’re not wrong, of course. But I thought Taylor’s comment on the coaches show was interesting. He said he felt that with the current freestyle rules, the better wrestler wins 99.9% of the time. A bit hyperbolic, perhaps, but I think he’s not generally wrong. Curious what he thinks folkstyle’s number is. Not trying to pick a fight between the styles, but I do have a sense that upsets happen less often in wrestling than team sports, for instance. I kind of think the differentiation has more to do with senior level competition than ruleset. A lot fewer mistakes happen at that level. We have only to look at andegre’s weekly posts for examples why I may be wrong, but... The feeling is still there.
 
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You’re not wrong, of course. But I thought Taylor’s comment on the coaches show was interesting. He said he felt that with the current freestyle rules, the better wrestler wins 99.9% of the time. A bit hyperbolic, perhaps, but I think he’s not generally wrong. Curious what he thinks folkstyle’s number is. Not trying to pick a fight between the styles, but I do have a sense that upsets happen less often in wrestling than team sports, for instance. I kind of think the differentiation has more to do with senior level competition than ruleset. A lot fewer mistakes happen at that level. We have only to look at andegre’s weekly posts for examples why I may be wrong, but... The feeling is still there.

Wasnt DT talking about the refs influence in determining matches in FS.... .at least that's how i took it......
 
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You’re not wrong, of course. But I thought Taylor’s comment on the coaches show was interesting. He said he felt that with the current freestyle rules, the better wrestler wins 99.9% of the time. A bit hyperbolic, perhaps, but I think he’s not generally wrong. Curious what he thinks folkstyle’s number is. Not trying to pick a fight between the styles, but I do have a sense that upsets happen less often in wrestling than team sports, for instance. I kind of think the differentiation has mire to do with senior level competition than rule set. A lot fewer mistakes happen at that level. We have only to look at andegre’s weekly posts for examples why I may be wrong, but... The feeling is still there.
99.9%?? Heck, let's not even wrestle the bouts, regardless of the wrestling style (free, folk, Greco) or level (youth to Master's Free).

Seriously though, there's upsets galore...how much fun would it be if that weren't the case?
 
Wasnt DT talking about the refs influence in determining matches in FS.... .at least that's how i took it......
That could be more his intent, for sure. Not exactly what he said, as I recall it.

I also think he’d draw a distinction between “better wrestler” and upset. For instance, his first round matchup in 2018 Worlds.
 
99.9%?? Heck, let's not even wrestle the bouts, regardless of the wrestling style (free, folk, Greco) or level (youth to Master's Free).

Seriously though, there's upsets galore...how much fun would it be if that weren't the case?
The wrestler who scores more points wins 100% of time (using infinity for a pin-fall). Except for that one time...
 
The wrestler who scores more points wins 100% of time (using infinity for a pin-fall). Except for that one time...
I think it was Bobby Knight, not sure, that said to a reporter after getting asked why he thought they lost the game. "The other team scored more points than us, any other stupid questions"
 
If he finishes 5th with a few bonus points...…..I think most would be pretty happy. That said...….I don't think too many people outside of HR would be shocked to see him in the finals. Either way.....he will be fun to watch.

As I reread my post I realize that....even though I thought it...and fully believe it.......I didn't say it.....so now I have:
The thing that I respect about Aaron and many PSU wrestlers is that I can say with 100% certainty that Aaron and many PSU guys will fully be expecting to be the National Champ. No doubts......just listen to their interviews.….which is why MY "fair" expectation will always be lower that their expectations. And I am absolutely fine with that. 100%
 
Not to be picky, but Ruth’s wins over Lewnes and Nolf’s over Imar were when they were RS FR. StandwithPride’s post was if AB beat Zahid as a true FR—quite a feat!
Yes, Aaron is a true freshman for college eligibility, but he was in the high school class of 2018 and spent a year at the Olympic training center and wrestling high-end freestyle. Not your typical "true freshman".

Haven't seen him wrestle yet, other than some youtube highlights. Do folks here really give him a good chance vs Zahid?
 
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Yes, Aaron is a true freshman for college eligibility, but he was in the high school class of 2018 and spent a year at the Olympic training center and wrestling high-end freestyle. Not your typical "true freshman".

Haven't seen him wrestle yet, other than some youtube highlights. Do folks here really give him a good chance vs Zahid?
Good point about gray shirt! IMO the sky is the limit for Brooks. But I have to admit that Zahid’s pretty up there in the sky. I’m glad Aaron will get a lot of collegiate matches before they could eventually meet. If Aaron had gone against Zahid in the dual we beat ASU, but that would sure have been one tough first varsity collegiate match!
 
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Not to be picky, but Ruth’s wins over Lewnes and Nolf’s over Imar were when they were RS FR. StandwithPride’s post was if AB beat Zahid as a true FR—quite a feat!

My point was more geared towards “ years of experience” Zahid has a 4-5 advantage over AB
Not sure bout Lewnes/Ruth.
IMAR had 1 over Nolf and 2 over Cenzo.
 
My point was more geared towards “ years of experience” Zahid has a 4-5 advantage over AB
Not sure bout Lewnes/Ruth.
IMAR had 1 over Nolf and 2 over Cenzo.
Good point about year differential! Lewnes would have had 2 or 3 years on Ruth (depending on whether he grayshirted). Of course Lewnes never won NC, even though I think he was twice seeded #1. Imar had 2 years on Nolf and 3 years on Cenzo (almost positive Imar RSed his first year).
 
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