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How the hell does Dake make 74kg ?? (162.8 lbs)

Dake looks larger than Mark Hall.
 
Chance and JB
  • Not a lot so far, but Chance gets hit with a shot clock point, immediately followed by a Burroughs double. 3-0.
  • Burroughs mostly keeping his distance. Chance loses a contact lens. Gets it back.
  • Break.
  • Burroughs bleeding, getting a headwrap from David Letterman moonlighting as a trainer.
  • Chance getting bolder and more active.
  • JB warned for hands to face.
  • Chance fights off a single with some heavy hips, still needs to get his own shot going.
  • Chance back on the clock. 4-0, minute remaining.
  • Nice head snap from Chance but he's not getting near Burroughs' legs.
  • Time winding down, it'll end 4-0.
 
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The thing I don't like about FS is the shot clock, Nolf took all the shots and Dake got the passivity point.
At the time he was put on the clock, Nolf hadn't taken any shots and was ceding the center to Dake. It was deserved, especially as refs are required to put one of the wrestlers on the clock if there's no score by the point it was called. Clock doesn't have much to do with shots so much as activity and holding center. If you're the one backing up, you're the one that's going to get hit.
 
The thing I don't like about FS is the shot clock, Nolf took all the shots and Dake got the passivity point.
Nolf deserved to be put on the clock. Dake controlled center and Nolf was in the zone a big portion of the match. I think this match shows how much stronger Nolf has gotten though. Normally when Dake gets people in the zone he pushes them out and gets his 1 but for the most part Nolf did very well when in the zone
 
I like Chance but I sure wish we were watching JB vs CStar. I don’t think Carter would win at this point in both of their careers but I think he could give JB his toughest match
 
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DT and Zahid Valencia
  • Handfighting so far, Zahid warned for passivity.
  • Duck by Zahid, DT evades it.
  • Zahid with a leg, DT looking crotch lift, ref stops it.
  • DT on the clock.
  • DT looking to go behind, steps out. Loses a challenge. 2-0 Zahid.
  • DT gets to a leg but Zahid heavy hips, fights it off.
  • Break 2-0 Zahid. DT was picking up pace toward the end.
  • DT stuffs a duck attempt.
  • DT shot, Zahid on the clock.
  • DT stuffs another duck attempt.
  • Bit of a scramble, DT gets behind, and the TD. Zahid scampers out, gets hit for a caution. 3-2.
  • Zahid challenges TD, on replay his knee didn't hit. 2-2, DT with criteria, caution wiped out too.
  • Zahid shot, DT fights it off.
  • DT reattack, gets to a leg, converts at edge off a whizzer.
  • 4-2, DT prevails, but nice match by Zahid.
 
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DT and Zahid Valencia
  • Handfighting so far, Zahid warned for passivity.
  • Duck by Zahid, DT evades it.
  • Zahid with a leg, DT looking crotch lift, ref stops it.
  • DT on the clock.
  • DT looking to go behind, steps out. Loses a challenge. 2-0 Zahid.
  • DT gets to a leg but Zahid heavy hips, fights it off.
  • Break 2-0 Zahid. DT was picking up pace toward the end.
challenge was not allowed. Second point was shot clock
 
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Bader listing DT's accomplishments:

"World champion, NCAA champion, probably won a Tulsa title as well..."
 
challenge was not allowed. Second point was shot clock
I could be wrong, but I believe the incident occurred before the shot clock expired, around the :28 mark. The point to Zahid rendered the clock moot, so the only explanation for the extra point was the lost challenge. I heard what you heard as well, someone saying the challenge was not allowed, but I don't see how else Zahid has two there.
 
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Wasn't that worried actually DT being down 2-0 at break. His pace the 2nd half is what makes him his money.
 
If a challenge is simply not allowed, how does DT give up a point for a lost challenge? Also, why wouldn't Zahid still lose a point for fleeing, even if his knee didn't hit, he was crawling off the mat? Every time I think I am starting to understand Freestyle, this type of thing happens.
 
Nolf and Dake!
  • Dake looking to push Nolf out, going underhook, but Nolf holds his ground.
  • Nolf warned for passivity.
  • Nolf snapping down, half shot attempt.
  • Nolf going on the clock w 1:18 left in first.
  • Neither guy committing, ref blows whistle. Nolf w an injury time out, maybe fingers?
  • Break. 1-0 Dake.
  • Nolf looking more active, Dake still just pushing
  • Beautiful ankle pick, Nolf lifts, gets behind, converts. 2-1 Nolf.
  • Nolf driven out, plus a caution (!) 3-2 Dake.
  • Dake with another step out point, up 4-2, 1:31 remaining.
  • Nolf with an ankle again, but Dake drops down and neutralizes.
  • Nolf needing a TD for the win, Dake backing up. Dake warned.
  • Dake wins 4-2, on two step outs, a caution, and a shot clock point. Dake never shot, just held center.
So Dake wins without a TD? Lame.

But as long as he was “controlling center”, he earned it. 😂
 
DT was down 2-0 with Zahid on the shot clock.
DT got the takedown but was going OOB. They give it to him anyways, says Zahid was trying to flee, so they tacked on a caution 1 and the shot clock expired. So that's 4 points. 4-2 DT
Sunkist Kids challenged and said they were going OOB and the TD shouldn't count and Zahid wasn't fleeing also.
Refs agree, takes away 2 points for DT and only gives him step up and shot out, changed to 2-2, DT on criteria.

Haters b**** and moan anyways because they're idiots.
 
I could be wrong, but I believe the incident occurred before the shot clock expired, around the :28 mark. The point to Zahid rendered the clock moot, so the only explanation for the extra point was the lost challenge. I heard what you heard as well, someone saying the challenge was not allowed, but I don't see how else Zahid has two there.

That's not true anymore, you can score on the opponent's shot clock now and still get the 1
 
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I could be wrong, but I believe the incident occurred before the shot clock expired, around the :28 mark. The point to Zahid rendered the clock moot, so the only explanation for the extra point was the lost challenge. I heard what you heard as well, someone saying the challenge was not allowed, but I don't see how else Zahid has two there.
The point Zahid got no longer nullifies the shot clock point. He is allowed to score and also collect the shot clock point now. Good rule change I think because it encourages action. Before the guy would wait 30 seconds only playing defense to ensure he got his 1 point. Now he can score as many as possible and still pick up the point
 
So Dake wins without a TD? Lame.

But as long as he was “controlling center”, he earned it. 😂
Dake actually did earn the win.

Dake is annoying & boring AF, but he understands the rules better than you do, and he uses them to his advantage LOL

But, I don't even think Dake wants any part of shooting on Nolf if he does not need to shoot.

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J'Den Cox & Kyle Dake should go on a tour together watching paint dry when they retire from men's freestyle.
 
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Dake actually did earn the win.

Dake is annoying & boring AF, but he understands the rules better than you do, and he uses them to his advantage LOL

But, I don't even think Dake wants any part of shooting on Nolf if he does not need to shoot.

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J'Den Cox & Kyle Dake should go on a tour together watching paint dry when they retire from men's freestyle.
Oh, I understand it. It just illustrates how ridiculous Freestyle is. Can’t wait til Folk starts again! WE ARE!!!
 
Dake actually did earn the win.

Dake is annoying & boring AF, but he understands the rules better than you do, and he uses them to his advantage LOL
This ... it's actually similar to Iowa fans complaining about how RBY beats ADS every time.

Instead of considering maybe stalling isn't called how they think it is (seeing how they think it's everyone stalls but Iowa lol) they are convinced every single referee just let's RBY do it lol.
 
DT was down 2-0 with Zahid on the shot clock.
DT got the takedown but was going OOB. They give it to him anyways, says Zahid was trying to flee, so they tacked on a caution 1 and the shot clock expired. So that's 4 points. 4-2 DT
Sunkist Kids challenged and said they were going OOB and the TD shouldn't count and Zahid wasn't fleeing also.
Refs agree, takes away 2 points for DT and only gives him step up and shot out, changed to 2-2, DT on criteria.

Haters b**** and moan anyways because they're idiots.
never touched a anything but feet and hands-which is why TD was nullified.
 
never touched a anything but feet and hands-which is why TD was nullified.
It was the right reversal. I'm saying people still complain the initial call was made regardless as if it's some favoritism to Penn State. It's so difficult to referee and things happen so fast.
 
That's not true anymore, you can score on the opponent's shot clock now and still get the 1
Okay, I heard talk of that but hadn't seen it happen. Here, though, they gave Zahid the extra point before action had restarted after going out of bounds with :02 remaining on the passivity clock. So I still don't see how Zahid gets a shot clock point.
 
The point Zahid got no longer nullifies the shot clock point. He is allowed to score and also collect the shot clock point now. Good rule change I think because it encourages action. Before the guy would wait 30 seconds only playing defense to ensure he got his 1 point. Now he can score as many as possible and still pick up the point
Right, but they gave him the point before the clock got to :30.
 
Right, but they gave him the point before the clock got to :30.
It was at :28 but then the clock just disappeared a couple seconds later. Confusing but since no challenge was allowed it was 1 for step out and 1 for shot clock
 
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