Florida Flips Oregon WR commit who just signed. Top 20 overall 2025 recruit.
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It’s whomever has the deep pockets this year. Soon these deals with include private jet travel.
Why are there letters of intent?
There is only one way out of this, a collective bargaining agreement. The problem is, there is no "collective" in college football. Without that, it is going to continue to be the wild, wild west. So the NCAA is going to have to get a group of influential players together and form a "collective". That would probably be in the form of a union.
right now, anyone is doing whatever they want and daring the universities and NIL collectives to sue them. That would carry really bad optics. So the players are simply free to roam the ranges and graze wherever they want. That isn't a sustainable mode.
There is only one way out of this, a collective bargaining agreement. The problem is, there is no "collective" in college football. Without that, it is going to continue to be the wild, wild west. So the NCAA is going to have to get a group of influential players together and form a "collective". That would probably be in the form of a union.
right now, anyone is doing whatever they want and daring the universities and NIL collectives to sue them. That would carry really bad optics. So the players are simply free to roam the ranges and graze wherever they want. That isn't a sustainable mode.
Everyone jumped on the NIL/portal train claiming that it was good for 18 to 22 year old athletes who were being exploited. All they were being offered was free housing, free food, free books and a free $100,000 to $400,000 education.
Actions have consequences.
yep. And age 18 is such a weird age. As Alice Cooper wrote in the song "18"
I got a baby's brain and an old man's heart
Took eighteen years to get this far
Don't always know what I'm talkin' about
Feels like I'm livin' in the middle of doubt
Most of these families have never been faced with agents and lawyers and this level of sycophants. At 18, I'd have been the biggest idiot and made bazions of mistakes. I didn't know who I was or what my moral compass was. There has to be some structure for the good of the game, universities, and players. It's crazy right now. I saw that SMU only has 3 players in their starting 22 that went to SMU as a recruit. That means 19 of the 22 starters are portal players.
It’s all about perspective.
People complaining the most about the current state of college football are:
1. A few whiny College coaches on the losing end (meaning losing players to the portal or their failure to obtain talent via the portal)
2. Some fans of teams who are not fairing well in the new world order of college football (procuring talented players via the portal). This group yearns the most about the “old days” when players had no rights and schools and coaches pocketed fortunes on the backs of players.
3. A few media types because it makes their jobs more difficult.
People not complaining:
1. College Players benefitting from the massive amounts of money thrown their way in exchange for their lucrative money making services.
2. College Players who have the freedom to transfer to another destination without a coach’s permission.
3. Fans of teams who are thriving in the new world order of college football (teams winning the NIL and portal battles)
4. TV Executives and sponsors who are seeing record numbers in terms of viewership.
5. B1G and SEC conferences who happily agreed to sign billion dollar TV contracts.
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When the Sun dies, it's going to expand to such a degree that it may engulf the Earth; then, it will shrink into what is called a White Dwarf. This process is now happening with big time college football. What I mean by this is that what is happening is exploding to such a negative degree that eventually it's going to reach critical mass and then correct itself in some way, because what's happening now is absurd and unsustainable.
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Agreed. Right now, it doesn't seem to make sense to recruit a top ten QB out of high school. All the best QBs are 5th or 6th year players who portaled into a top program to take over in their last or second to last year of eligibility.
It's no coincidence that the Wake Head Coach, who did a really good job at a hard place to win, just resigned, because a lot of these college coaches just don't want to deal with this garbage anymore. Eric Biennemy was on Cowherd's show on Tuesday, and you could just tell from his tone that he has no desire to coach in college again, although he mainly attributed it to the fact that he couldn't devote as much time to teaching in the college game because of the restrictions on practice time.Agreed. Right now, it doesn't seem to make sense to recruit a top ten QB out of high school. All the best QBs are 5th or 6th year players who portaled into a top program to take over in their last or second to last year of eligibility.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Franklin's tenure at PSU may not last much longer because he just may grow tired of this garbage.
Yep. well, the programs become day-to-day. You can't build a program because kids can just come and go. There is no structure.
On one hand, the name programs will sustain because they can pay the players. On the other hand, you'll get teams that come out of nowhere like Indiana who hit the portal lottery and get an easy schedule once in a while. It really is like MLB where the Yankees and Dodgers contend year in and year out while once in a blue moon a Tampa, KC or Balt jumps up to contend.
I real that AL is in a panic because they don't have the alumni money to keep up with GA and TX.
Perhaps you are right, but college football is regulated way less than pro football and you will have to convince me that paying big money to 18 -22 year olds with no degree to fall back on is a good idea. Seems to me that the people who really made out are the”agents”
The beauty of the free market is that the 18-22 year old does not need nor want your approval or commentary on what’s in their best interest. It’s their decision to make. I see nothing wrong with that.
Seems to me some fans are just resentful and jealous of these young athletes making boatloads of money. Not saying you are one of them, but I believe there are some fans that feel that way. Acting like jilted lovers when a player transfers is absurd. People do what’s in their best interest, not what you think is in their best interest. It’s a key attribute of a free market.
This is the new world order. You can embrace it and strategize on how to win, or continue to look into the past while competitors pass you by.
They better take advantage of it while it lasts, because I have a feeling that some changes are coming because if they don't, this sport has a chance of being destroyed.
Explain how players “had no rights”.
In your pursuit to explain how wonderful things currently are, you need to insult others?
There are millions of college football viewers who say otherwise.
The interest in the game is at historic levels. It’s here for the long term. We are not going back to the old days dependent on ridiculous and outdated NCAA regulations and other anti free market policies. The lawyers will see to that.
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It is great that these players can maximize their income potential. If you have talent then go to the highest bidder. My issue is that there are no rules or regulations or seemingly any accountability. At least in the NFL you don't have a guy sign a contract with team X one week and say never mind the next week because team Y swooped in with more money. Hold them accountable in some way to the decisions and commitments they are making. Right now they come off as spoiled prime donnas who have no accountability. What if we now offered this kid $10 million to play WR at PSU? What then? He bails on Florida the day after committing to them? Then Oregon comes back with $12 million. Then OSU gets in the game at $15 million? My point is there are no rules or processes. Just a freakish free for all that is blowing up before our eyes.
LOL! Beau will be laughing all the way to the bank with his next gig.
Did you say the same thing when Manny Diaz signed his contract and gave his “word” to Temple University as their Head Coach only to bolt 11 days later as soon as a better offer was presented by Miami?
Did you demand more regulations and constraints to stop College coaches from leaving their players after making promises and commitments to those players and their parents?
Do you complain when Franklin’s agent floats Franklin’s name as a possible candidate for the next high profile coaching vacancy in order to gain leverage with Penn State?
Again, a free market is a great thing. If Penn State had a huge NIL fund and they were more successful in obtaining high end players via the portal, there would be zero complaints from the PSU fan base in terms of player portal acquisitions.
If the NFL didn't have a salary cap, many teams like Green Bay would have no hope of competing for anything, and many teams in the NHL and NBA no longer would exist if those leagues didn't have salary caps. The same thing is going to happen with college football if some regulations aren't imposed. If you would be happy with having a Super Conference in which the same 12 or 15 teams play each other every season, then let the current system exist as it is.
Unless some changes are made, I foresee many D-1 schools at best significantly downgrading its football program because they either can't compete ecomonically anymore and/or they just doesn't want to. Fortunately, PSU probably still would be in that group of 12 or 15 that still can compete economically, but that could change.
The players are winning the most here. More than the agents. Coaches hate it. Old school fans hate it because they dislike change but there's not a single player that is upset that they can cash in and move.
No...he's complaining (incorrectly) about the time frame not that he can move and cash in
How is that going to happen? It’s unlimited free agency. Anyone that tries to limit an amateurs comp will quickly be shot down with a law suit. There is no going back. Demands and compensation are whatever boosters will pay and that’s not going to change, only get worse. Every year player demands and roster cost are going up. It’s the ultimate job if you can get it. Make a million with no contract or employer, because they are amateurs.
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There's a valid argument that NIL is helping all schools not just the top programs
MLB is still alive and that's far worse
I'd be thrilled with a super conference (actually) two and just playing the same teams--look at our non-conference schedule
I wouldn’t say that there would be ZERO complaints, but they would be greatly diminished.
Like I said, many schools may just give up and deemphasize their programs, which will give less options for these players.
O hope we win it all this year then I can be happy never watching a college football game ever again,
I agree and disagree.
Obviously, things are changing. But a kid going to the NFL is probably aged 21 or older and has played three years in an NFL preparatory program. it is probably more comparable to the NBA, NHL or MLB but, of course, those are professional leagues where there is a collective bargaining agreement (CBA) so there are some guidelines around comings, goings, and contracts.
i am all for kids getting a cut. But you can't have a) a kid pull out of his LOI two weeks after signing it or b) a key player (named Beau) leaving his team before the playoffs because he is concerned the window will close leaving him without a seat when the portal music stops.
So I'd be just fine and dandy if there was a CBA giving this crazy mess some structure.
I agree and disagree.
Obviously, things are changing. But a kid going to the NFL is probably aged 21 or older and has played three years in an NFL preparatory program. it is probably more comparable to the NBA, NHL or MLB but, of course, those are professional leagues where there is a collective bargaining agreement (CBA) so there are some guidelines around comings, goings, and contracts.
i am all for kids getting a cut. But you can't have a) a kid pull out of his LOI two weeks after signing it or b) a key player (named Beau) leaving his team before the playoffs because he is concerned the window will close leaving him without a seat when the portal music stops.
So I'd be just fine and dandy if there was a CBA giving this crazy mess some structure.
I don’t disagree with you philosophically speaking. I would insist you impose the same structure or constraints on coaches. Kotelnicki looking to interview with other teams during a playoff run was ridiculous.
The free market is great. An unfettered free market can turn into a nightmare (see, e.g. American factories during the time Upton Sinclair wrote “The Jungle”). We are getting to the college sports stage of the 9 year old urchin falling into the lard rendering vat because of the lack of a guardrail
I'm not complaining about Penn State and what they do in the portal good or bad. Get that clear. Did you hear me complain about howwell we are doing in the portal? Listen to the point I am making and stop just feeding your chest thumping narrative that you love the system we have and love the fact that players can go anywhere at anytime with no consequences. Got that. And you obviously hate anyone bringing up any kind of objection or maybe possibly a better solution.
Rarely do you see coaches skip out on a contract a week after they sign it. It can happen and that is not good but there are consequences like I am sure Temple got paid something. There was a contract, that is my point. There was a process. Is it good for Diaz to do that? No. Is it possible? Sure but once you sign a contract you have some accountability. If Franklin ever left then Penn State would be compensated. Again, consequences. Yes. Franklin does not pay it but someone does.
So back to these players. They are free agents so you bet your smug little attitude if Johnny's family signed some kind of agreement or contract with Oregon then reneges and had to pay money to Oregon they would think twice about bailing a week after giving their word. Again, do whatever you want. A free market is a good thing but there should always be consequences and ramifications to your decisions.
You are getting way too emotional about this topic. Not sure why you interjected the word “hate” in your comments. This has been a very cordial exchange of opinions and ideas within this thread until you posted your comments.
I live in the real world. Whether you like it or not, money rules. Period. No amount of bellyaching or complaining will change the harsh realities of life. The players are not doing anything illegal. Leveraging the current system to obtain a better offer is not a criminal offense. College Football will survive. Don’t take things so personal and relax a little. You will feel better.
What programs? You realize how much money football bring them, right?
Even the smaller programs
Beau isn't "a key player"--he's the backup that would play a handful of snaps barring injuryI agree and disagree.
Obviously, things are changing. But a kid going to the NFL is probably aged 21 or older and has played three years in an NFL preparatory program. it is probably more comparable to the NBA, NHL or MLB but, of course, those are professional leagues where there is a collective bargaining agreement (CBA) so there are some guidelines around comings, goings, and contracts.
i am all for kids getting a cut. But you can't have a) a kid pull out of his LOI two weeks after signing it or b) a key player (named Beau) leaving his team before the playoffs because he is concerned the window will close leaving him without a seat when the portal music stops.
So I'd be just fine and dandy if there was a CBA giving this crazy mess some structure.
If they sign a financial agreement they are no longer amateurs I believe. All the money with no written accountability.
