Freshmen ineligibility initiative story on front page...

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

I figure that story is at least as worthy of discussion here as some of the stuff we are going on about this morning.

IMHO, it is good to see PSU taking a firm position on this.

 

[Blueblood4eva]

Takes away the early playing time advantage in recruiting, so really helps the teams already loaded with top talent. O$U should love this, for all the wrong reasons. Sounds great but how much will it really help when all is said and done. Those who bend the rules, love new rules that they can take advantage of.

 

[SCBlueFan]

I think one of us is having trouble understanding the gist of the article, Ned2:

"I think freshmen need to be eligible," Franklin said.

"I don't think there were very many of us that necessarily agreed 100 percent with the concept of freshman ineligibility or a year of readiness," said Barbour.

It would appear to me that the PSU leadership is strongly in favor of freshman eligibility -- NOT in favor of ineligibility. Or maybe I'm just still asleep.

 

[NittPicker]

I think one of us is having trouble understanding the gist of the article, Ned2:

"I think freshmen need to be eligible," Franklin said.

"I don't think there were very many of us that necessarily agreed 100 percent with the concept of freshman ineligibility or a year of readiness," said Barbour.

It would appear to me that the PSU leadership is strongly in favor of freshman eligibility -- NOT in favor of ineligibility. Or maybe I'm just still asleep.

You are correct. The headline may give the wrong idea if it's not read carefully. The article explains how PSU is in favor of freshmen being eligible.

 

[sluggo72]

may help solve the basketball 1 and done 'problem'. If you cant play, why bother even coming??

 

[manatree]

Here's a thought. If an athlete needs a year to adjust to the academics of college, perhaps they should not be in college. That is what JuCos and prep schools are for.

My alternative solution is this. The number of practice hours per week (i.e. practice, workouts, film sessions, etc.) must be less than the equivalent credit hours a student athlete is taking. So if a student athlete is taking 18 credits, they are not allowed to practice more than 17 hours per week.No more of the 20+ hours of practice while only taking the bare minimum of 12 credits of classes.

 

[BobPSU92]

You are correct. The headline may give the wrong idea if it's not read carefully. The article explains how PSU is in favor of freshmen being eligible.

Yes, but Penn State is in favor of freshmen being eligible because Penn State does it the right way. They play freshmen that are ready to play, and not just ready physically. Don't lump Penn State with schools that don't do it the right way.

 

[sluggo72]

Yes, but Penn State is in favor of freshmen being eligible because Penn State does it the right way. They play freshmen that are ready to play, and not just ready physically. Don't lump Penn State with schools that don't do it the right way.

well we will see about that. Was that a PSU thing, or was that a JVP thing? Was the Grand Experiment a PSU thing or was it a Joe thing?? As many have mentioned on this board, there is a new sheriff in town, and they can run things the way they see fit.

 

[PSU-Knocker]

There was a time when Freshmen ineligibility made sense, but colleges have found a way to correct the problems. While it is true that some still have problems, some still have problems as Sophomores. This smacks of someone trying to reform because they have this high and mighty idea.

 

[Raffycorn]

well we will see about that. Was that a PSU thing, or was that a JVP thing? Was the Grand Experiment a PSU thing or was it a Joe thing?? As many have mentioned on this board, there is a new sheriff in town, and they can run things the way they see fit.

I believe that most, if not all, of PSU's sports teams are among the conference leaders in graduation rates and APR. I believe Men's Basketball - which nationally tends to have the lowest scores and rates - has been close to 100% every year for years.

 

[dawgduice]

Freshman should NOT play. Let's be real many of these kids are marginal students to begin with. Not to mention "maturity" issues. Providing them with a year to adjust and have some classroom success will go a long way to actual graduation. Kind of thought that is the mission of a University ????
That being said, unless EVERY school had this rule it will not work.

 

[sluggo72]

delete

 

[PSU-Knocker]

Freshman should NOT play. Let's be real many of these kids are marginal students to begin with. Not to mention "maturity" issues. Providing them with a year to adjust and have some classroom success will go a long way to actual graduation. Kind of thought that is the mission of a University ????
That being said, unless EVERY school had this rule it will not work.

What's your evidence? Our athletes are graduating at a higher rate than the general population and all of these athletes were once Freshmen.

 

[dawgduice]

My evidence is who I am and what I did. PLUS Joe never wanted freshmen to be "eligible", why ?because he was an "educator and a coach". Not just a money machine.
But "it is what it is".

However, for the most part PSU tries to do the best it can within the rules established by the NCAA and PSU.

 

[PSU-Knocker]

My evidence is who I am and what I did. PLUS Joe never wanted freshmen to be "eligible", why ?because he was an "educator and a coach". Not just a money machine.
But "it is what it is".

However, for the most part PSU tries to do the best it can within the rules established by the NCAA and PSU.

And you call that "evidence"?

 

[dawgduice]

And you call that "evidence"?

Let me think ??? "YES, Dean Martin, it is".