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Give me your prediction: PSU-Iowa
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I don’t go to other team’s message boards. Are there a lot of Penn State fans on their board lecturing their fans?
message boards aren't reality- grow some skin
It will be a defensive struggle. Overall, Clifford’s decision making has been much improved this year. It will come down to turnovers. Our D will force a big turnover that will be the difference in the game.
Penn State 20
Iowa 17
WE ARE!!!
Penn State 20
Iowa 17
WE ARE!!!
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Hey, now. We like both kinds of music. Country and Western.
If Clifford has a good game and we don’t turn the ball over we will win. Both teams have a good Defense, it comes down to QB play and protecting the football. 17 - 10 PSU
Gonna be a Stout game. His punting to flip the field and made or missed field goals will be the key. A nail biter of field position that could be won or lost on just a couple plays. As stated by @PrtLng Lion
Iowa can’t pick up third downs either, so how are they going to beat us bad?
As usual, this will be a defensive struggle. I worry more about a RB fumble than Clifford throwing a pick. I think PSU has too many weapons in the WR and TE group. Use swing passes and dump offs as a running game.
I'll go 24-13 PSU. Getting a couple quick scores will take the crowd out and force IA to throw more to play catchup. I'm not sure IA is good enough on offense to keep up.
I'll go 24-13 PSU. Getting a couple quick scores will take the crowd out and force IA to throw more to play catchup. I'm not sure IA is good enough on offense to keep up.
This one is very tough to predict. One common opponent but very different situations. Indiana was without its best player, its most effective receiver and during the contest lost its other starting corner as well as its QB who has only played one game injury free, the opener. Indiana dropped more players into coverage than our previous opponents did allowing the running game to get going, but still couldn't gain a yard when it needed to indicating that the improvement was likely more Indiana's approach than improvement. The defense played very well again but couldn't generate much pressure without bring linebackers. With that said, perhaps the most relevant data point was Iowa's handling of Maryland on Friday night given that Dan Enos' offense is very similar to Mike Yurcich's approach. Both use a gap blocking scheme with a few unique twists. Passing wise, the two teams have very similar talent executing similar concepts. How easily Iowa dispatched the Maryland offense is more than a little concerning. They used very little zone in coverage which is what Dotson frequently exploits which removes our most effective weapon on offense. Defensively, so long as we stick to our game plan and Pry resists the urge to blitz on every other play, I think this is a low scoring affair with a lot of field goals and the difference will likely be a turnover. I am thinking a field goal difference. Going into the season I thought Iowa was the best team in the Big Ten so I am going to stick with them in a 12 to 9 game.
If PSU can win against the blatant shit pulled in the Auburn game the can win this.
Offensively - PSU needs to avoid 3rd and king and/or 4th downs to try to get a first.
Defensively - don’t give up 3rd and long plays
Defensively - don’t give up 3rd and long plays
I am accused in the other thread of mischaracterizing the offense...
That being said, I think we see the Game Manager version of Clifford versus Iowa - he won't light it up but he won't make mistakes and that's the difference. Iowa needs turnovers to feed its offense but won't get as many as they need Saturday.
I think this could be another 16-10 game, PSU wins. The early line looks like a 42.5 O/U which I think is nuts - and Iowa by 1.5.
That being said, I think we see the Game Manager version of Clifford versus Iowa - he won't light it up but he won't make mistakes and that's the difference. Iowa needs turnovers to feed its offense but won't get as many as they need Saturday.
I think this could be another 16-10 game, PSU wins. The early line looks like a 42.5 O/U which I think is nuts - and Iowa by 1.5.
The code phrasing that goes on in sports analysis always cracks me up. "More athletic" really just means that you see more black guys on the field for PSU than Iowa. Iowa fans hear this every year, especially when it comes to basketball. There's a lot of truth to it, sure, but at the same time there's more than meets the eye.
In reality, Iowa's white punt returner Charlie Jones is every bit as athletic as anyone on Penn State.
In fact, I'd say Iowa's pretty damn athletic. Just watch their games. A nicely undersized and mobile offensive line. A strong and finesse-type pass catching Tight End. That reminds me, is there a more athletic TE in the NFL than Iowa's George Kittle? He was rarely called athletic while at Iowa, but now he's athleticism personified at that position. He's top 3 at least. At Iowa, Noah Fant was always described as the super athletic TE moreso than Hockenson. I wonder why? Anyway, the number of turnovers Iowa's D creates has a lot to do with schemes, but you rarely hear analysts say that a team is "high IQ." Haha.
Do you know who the three most athletic college football players I've seen in the past 10 years are?
Saquon Barkley, Desmond King (homer pick), and Christian McCaffrey. Yet, in all my years of watching college football, I've never seen a team get clowned, over and over, by one player as Iowa did vs. Christian McCaffrey in the Rose Bowl. Barkley also had his fair share of head-shaking plays against Iowa in '17. Barkley has the strongest and most agile legs of a college RB I've ever seen.
Stream of consciousness rant over.
I have no idea who will win next Saturday's game, but I'm savoring the specialness of it all. It's going to be entertaining, close, and heartbreaking for one of us.
I don't know that we are going to win. Our secondary is the best I've ever seen at PSU, so I doubt Iowa will beat us with their QB. But our offense does not look worthy of #3/#4, whatever we are ranked.
Penn State 31 Iowa 10. The game won’t be as close as that score indicates.
Not based on skin color, it’s based on recruiting. The more athletic players (regardless of color) are usually four and five stars of which PSU has more.
State 23
Iowa 21
and I may die during the game, already stressed and itchy
Iowa 21
and I may die during the game, already stressed and itchy
I predict the same thing on our board, if that's any consolation. That's my only prediction. Other than I intend to consume a lot of beer, brats and bbq.
Then why not say talented? Tons and tons of super athletic players aren't highly rated and whose athleticism doesn't translate into talent.
Anyone who eyeballs Iowa's basketball team from last year (5 white starters, I think) and compares it with a team photo of say, a far less talented all-black team like Howard or Texas Southern-type school, 10 out of 10 times the person wil assume the latter as being more athletic.
The same applies to football, and it's OK to admit personal biases.
If I'm betting on the 100M dash in the Olympics, no sane person would ever pick a white Brit over a west African. In 2012, 81 people had recorded times under 10 seconds.
79 of them were black. I'm sure that number is even more lopsided in 2021.
So. Penn state doesn’t get exposed? They get robbed? That is apparently Uncharacteristic of you given your PSU-IU game thread rants. 🙄
Let’s not argue. Let’s just enjoy a great game and agree Iowa State fans are the most unbearable bunch in the country.
PSU 24
Iowa 14
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In what way do you think they have a better offense? Strictly curious.
State 23
Iowa 21
and I may die during the game, already stressed and itchy
Woogie! Lol
I actually healed a little last night. Prepping for a setback Sat around 7ish. Not expecting a loss, just huge stress!State 23
Iowa 21
and I may die during the game, already stressed and itchy
You’re going against your own argument. So you’re saying 79 of the 81 people that had times under 10 seconds were black to argue that black people aren’t more athletic. You want to make this about race and it’s not. I would say PSU has more athletic guys than Grambling even though Grambling likely has all black players. It’s about recruiting, not skin color.
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