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Has a future first-round NFL QB draft pick ever lost to Vanderbilt?

Both Levis and Clifford are not very good. Average at best. Difference is Clifford will be lucky to make a practice squad and Levis is somehow the next Dan Marino.
Levis has a stronger arm and more size. I don't think anyone sees him as Marino, but I can see why people are enamored with his potential upside.
 
it's not only hurting his stock but his team

Ah, it actually hasn't done either of those yet.

His stock has remained unchanged as far any draft predictions have went. 1st through 3rd QB projected since April and he still is.

Aa far as UK, they dropped the one game he missed and the post-Levis era looks more like the majority of UK football historically (mediocre) than the preseason hopes of getting to 11-1.

The one detriment that Levis is doing is risking his health. Georgia will probably hit/sack him 15+ times.
 
Ah, it actually hasn't done either of those yet.

His stock has remained unchanged as far any draft predictions have went. 1st through 3rd QB projected since April and he still is.

Aa far as UK, they dropped the one game he missed and the post-Levis era looks more like the majority of UK football historically (mediocre) than the preseason hopes of getting to 11-1.

The one detriment that Levis is doing is risking his health. Georgia will probably hit/sack him 15+ times.
Fair enough...I don't think he should be out there but their backup was horrible so probably isn't hurting the team
 
When I watch any of his games the announcers rave about his quick release. And the NFL love it, too. Add in his size and strong arm, leadership, toughness.NFL QBs take a pounding.

Never thought he is a first rounder but the second is possible. This year he is banged with a much weaker supporting cast Making him mace harder to evaluate. None of us know, and only time will tell.
 
Lol. We played against MD. They sucked and generated zero offense. vandy moved the ball

I am not saying he is a first round pick, never did. Just that he’s better than SC
Maryland is way better than Vandy and has a ton more talent.
 
I did. Better than Will “The Thrill”.

If Levis is injured, he shouldn’t be playing. Have any more excuses you’d like to offer for him? What was his excuse when he fumbled twice in the late stages of the Ole Miss game in a very winnable game?
Funny how an injury is a legit excuse for Levis, but not for Clifford….weird how that works.
 
When I watch any of his games the announcers rave about his quick release. And the NFL love it, too. Add in his size and strong arm, leadership, toughness.NFL QBs take a pounding.

Never thought he is a first rounder but the second is possible. This year he is banged with a much weaker supporting cast Making him mace harder to evaluate. None of us know, and only time will tell.
His quick release? You mean when he doesn’t hold it too long, which is something he does far too often.
 
You know what it means. And it is always discussed in his games
He’s talked about during his games like he’s already the second coming of Josh Allen. Personally, I don’t care about potential, I care about what they do now and he is doing worse than Clifford.
 
Maryland is way better than Vandy and has a ton more talent.
maybe but it is not QB vs QB. Kentucky's D couldn't stop Vandy. I didn't see the QB playing on the D side of the ball. UM was totally outclassed and useless by the middle of the second quarter. Vandy played good ball. Yet, both QB's had similar stats. (SC 12 of 23 for 139 yds and a TD) ( WL 11-23 for 109 yards 0TD and 1 INT). Nobody sacked SC, WL was sacked 4 times. Nobody from K will play on Sundays from WR or TE. 3 or 4 will play on Sundays for PSU from WR and TE. PSU has two potential all - American backs while K has....count them, Zero.

Again, not to say SC is that much better or worse than SC but to suggest that is true based on one game is ridiculous.
 
maybe but it is not QB vs QB. Kentucky's D couldn't stop Vandy. I didn't see the QB playing on the D side of the ball. UM was totally outclassed and useless by the middle of the second quarter. Vandy played good ball. Yet, both QB's had similar stats. (SC 12 of 23 for 139 yds and a TD) ( WL 11-23 for 109 yards 0TD and 1 INT). Nobody sacked SC, WL was sacked 4 times. Nobody from K will play on Sundays from WR or TE. 3 or 4 will play on Sundays for PSU from WR and TE. PSU has two potential all - American backs while K has....count them, Zero.

Again, not to say SC is that much better or worse than SC but to suggest that is true based on one game is ridiculous.
Not basing it on one game, I’m looking at the whole season. People on here certainly used last year to judge Levis better than Clifford when Levis had a much better OLine, a better RB, a go-to receiver who made huge plays, a stout defense and a weak schedule. They’re both very similar QB’s with very similar weaknesses…Levis has a stronger arm and that’s about it.
 
Not basing it on one game, I’m looking at the whole season. People on here certainly used last year to judge Levis better than Clifford when Levis had a much better OLine, a better RB, a go-to receiver who made huge plays, a stout defense and a weak schedule. They’re both very similar QB’s with very similar weaknesses…Levis has a stronger arm and that’s about it.
WL is a much better runner and isn't as injury prone. Did you forget all of the PSU wins, down the stretch where they benched SC and had WL run the ball again, and again and again (as a soph when SC was a Senior [his first year as a senior])
 
WL is a much better runner and isn't as injury prone. Did you forget all of the PSU wins, down the stretch where they benched SC and had WL run the ball again, and again and again (as a soph when SC was a Senior [his first year as a senior])
Levis doesn’t run the ball any more and he’s been hurt a good part of this season. He was able to stay healthy last year because their OLine was really good…not so much this year.
 
Levis doesn’t run the ball any more and he’s been hurt a good part of this season. He was able to stay healthy last year because their OLine was really good…not so much this year.
once again, environmental issues dictate QB capability. I'll take WL over SC anytime. And I love SC. I saw him win the Ohio state championship with a blown out shoulder. He is a warrior. But he is very, very spotty and inconsistent. His long ball simply sucks. He missed several wide-open receivers this weekend against MD. On the other hand, he's a very good leader who runs the offense. He is not a game changer and doesn't possess the skill set to change the game. He needs really good players around him. And he has those players this year.

K is a far inferior program, with far inferior on-field talent with a schuledule that is as difficult of tougher than ours. BTW, we lost to Iowa last year and they beat Iowa in the bowl. This year, they've played GA and TN while we've played UM and tOSU. They haven't suffered a single blow out loss that compares to our horrible showing against UM.
 
Levis Stats
2021: 2826 yards passing, 24 TDs/13 picks, 66% completion percentage
2022: 2012 yards passing, 16 TDs/9 picks, 66.1% completion percentage

Cliff
2021: 3107 yards passing, 21 TDs/ 8 picks, 61% completion
2022: 2184 yards passing, 17 TDs/7 picks, 62.1%


You say Tomato, I say tomato......
 
once again, environmental issues dictate QB capability. I'll take WL over SC anytime. And I love SC. I saw him win the Ohio state championship with a blown out shoulder. He is a warrior. But he is very, very spotty and inconsistent. His long ball simply sucks. He missed several wide-open receivers this weekend against MD. On the other hand, he's a very good leader who runs the offense. He is not a game changer and doesn't possess the skill set to change the game. He needs really good players around him. And he has those players this year.

K is a far inferior program, with far inferior on-field talent with a schuledule that is as difficult of tougher than ours. BTW, we lost to Iowa last year and they beat Iowa in the bowl. This year, they've played GA and TN while we've played UM and tOSU. They haven't suffered a single blow out loss that compares to our horrible showing against UM.
Their season last year is very comparable to our season this year and Vice versa. They had a pretty easy schedule last year and they beat Iowa in a bowl but wouldn’t have had Levis gotten hurt early in the game. Their program last year was not inferior to ours, but it’s dropped off a lot this year. And everything you say about Clifford could be said about Levis, they’re very similar. Had Levis been our starter this year, many on here would be saying the same things about him that they say about Clifford. He might have better QB skills than Clifford, but he’s not a better QB. They’re both decent college QB’s.
 
Levis Stats
2021: 2826 yards passing, 24 TDs/13 picks, 66% completion percentage
2022: 2012 yards passing, 16 TDs/9 picks, 66.1% completion percentage

Cliff
2021: 3107 yards passing, 21 TDs/ 8 picks, 61% completion
2022: 2184 yards passing, 17 TDs/7 picks, 62.1%


You say Tomato, I say tomato......
And UK runs a ton of screen passes which helps Levis’s percentage. Also, much of his yards in 2021 resulted from short passes to WanDale Robinson who would go for long runs. They are very similar QB’s…only difference on this board is that Clifford plays for us.
 
2022 NFL Draft Prospect Rank - Quarterback
#1Bryce Young QB Alabama93.4
#4Will Levis QB Kentucky87.1
#5DJ Uiagalelei... QB Clemson87.0
#6Tanner McKee QB Stanford86.9
#7Anthony Richardson... QB Florida86.3
 
2022 NFL Draft Prospect Rank - Quarterback
#1Bryce Young QB Alabama93.4
#4Will Levis QB Kentucky87.1
#5DJ Uiagalelei... QB Clemson87.0
#6Tanner McKee QB Stanford86.9
#7Anthony Richardson... QB Florida86.3
I mean, he's infinitely better than Uiagalelei but so is Clifford
 
maybe but it is not QB vs QB. Kentucky's D couldn't stop Vandy. I didn't see the QB playing on the D side of the ball. UM was totally outclassed and useless by the middle of the second quarter. Vandy played good ball. Yet, both QB's had similar stats. (SC 12 of 23 for 139 yds and a TD) ( WL 11-23 for 109 yards 0TD and 1 INT). Nobody sacked SC, WL was sacked 4 times. Nobody from K will play on Sundays from WR or TE. 3 or 4 will play on Sundays for PSU from WR and TE. PSU has two potential all - American backs while K has....count them, Zero.

Again, not to say SC is that much better or worse than SC but to suggest that is true based on one game is ridiculous.
Clifford’s stats were better than Levis on Saturday. Look it up.
 
Levis Stats
2021: 2826 yards passing, 24 TDs/13 picks, 66% completion percentage
2022: 2012 yards passing, 16 TDs/9 picks, 66.1% completion percentage

Cliff
2021: 3107 yards passing, 21 TDs/ 8 picks, 61% completion
2022: 2184 yards passing, 17 TDs/7 picks, 62.1%


You say Tomato, I say tomato......
And I say I don’t get the Levis hype. He’ll get drafted because he has a strong arm but he has not played better than Clifford who is not NFL material of course. Any GM who drafts him in the first round is making a mistake IMO. 3rd round? Sure why not?
 
Levis Stats
2021: 2826 yards passing, 24 TDs/13 picks, 66% completion percentage
2022: 2012 yards passing, 16 TDs/9 picks, 66.1% completion percentage

Cliff
2021: 3107 yards passing, 21 TDs/ 8 picks, 61% completion
2022: 2184 yards passing, 17 TDs/7 picks, 62.1%


You say Tomato, I say tomato......
You left out the part about Clifford’s QB rating being 69.7 while Levis is 53.3.
 
Nobody from K will play on Sundays from WR or TE

Actually, UK has Robinson (yes, another, this one from VaTech) who will be a middle round pick and Brown and Key, both true freshman who look like future draftees.

I'll be shocked if Bama, USC or OSU don't try to entice Brown with a NIL deal. He's lightning fast and great on kickoff returns.

Their RB is what we wish Lee could have been as well. Downhill guy, gets hit in the back field every other rush, still gets positive yards. I figure he'll be drafted as well. Probably a faster version of Snell.
 
Actually, UK has Robinson (yes, another, this one from VaTech) who will be a middle round pick and Brown and Key, both true freshman who look like future draftees.

I'll be shocked if Bama, USC or OSU don't try to entice Brown with a NIL deal. He's lightning fast and great on kickoff returns.

Their RB is what we wish Lee could have been as well. Downhill guy, gets hit in the back field every other rush, still gets positive yards. I figure he'll be drafted as well. Probably a faster version of Snell.
You’re right about Brown and Key…both are very good.
 
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Clifford’s stats were better than Levis on Saturday. Look it up.
I just posted it. They are almost identical. yet, MD rolled over and SC missed several easy throws including two overthrows on deep balls with wide-open Wide Receivers when it was important to hit them. Again, not saying WL is going to be a first round pick but he is every bit as good as SC if not better.
 
Fun question. The answer appears to be twice (going back to 1980) with an asterisk.

They beat UGA and Matthew Stafford in 2006. He split snaps that game as a true freshman. They also beat the Terps in 1981 with Boomer Esiason (also not the starter but came in after the starter and possibly second stringers were knocked out).

They almost beat Chad Powers in 2002 but he got the arm on tape and put 10 unanswered points on the board in the 4th quarter to win by 3.
 
I just posted it. They are almost identical. yet, MD rolled over and SC missed several easy throws including two overthrows on deep balls with wide-open Wide Receivers when it was important to hit them. Again, not saying WL is going to be a first round pick but he is every bit as good as SC if not better.
WL also missed quite a few easy throws when it was even more important because they could have won the game instead of losing to Vandy.
 
WL also missed quite a few easy throws when it was even more important because they could have won the game instead of losing to Vandy.
So, as i said when I included the stats for both QBs, SC isn't any better than WL.
 
This year, they've played GA and TN while we've played UM and tOSU. They haven't suffered a single blow out loss that compares to our horrible showing against UM.

Well, first of all, they play GA this week. Secondly, they got blown out by Tennessee 44-6, and lastly, they lost to Vandy. But yeah, Kentucky is better than Penn State.
 
I don't see him as a top 5/10 pick but I've seen worse QBs go early lol
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Passing
YearTeamLgGGSAttCmpPctYdsYPAYPGTDTD%IntInt%LgFD20+SackLossRate
2020StanfordFBS107342.9628.962.000.000.0461--00117.3
2021StanfordFBS10931620665.22,3277.4232.7154.772.256t100--25138138.3
2022StanfordFBS101034020460.02,3637.0236.3113.261.878t106--34174125.5
TOTALSFBS211966341362.34,7527.2226.3263.9132.078t207--59312131.5

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11/12/22STAN@ UTAH231147.81556.700.000.0515--733104.4L, 42-7
11/05/22STANvs WSU402357.52365.900.000.0318--213107.1L, 52-14
10/29/22STAN@ UCLA291344.81154.013.513.5306--41482.6L, 38-13
10/22/22STANvs ASU573357.93205.600.011.82018--420101.5W, 15-14
10/15/22STAN@ ND382668.42887.600.000.03815--16132.1W, 16-14
 
Well, first of all, they play GA this week. Secondly, they got blown out by Tennessee 44-6, and lastly, they lost to Vandy. But yeah, Kentucky is better than Penn State.
Yes, their blow out loss to Tenn was far worse than our Michigan game.
 
Yes, their blow out loss to Tenn was far worse than our Michigan game.
You mean the Tennessee team that lost 63-38 this past weekend to a 7-4 team? So far we haven't lost to a team that isn't undefeated, and assuming we win against MSU we'll still be able to say we haven't lost to a team that wasn't either undefeated or had its only loss to a Top 3 undefeated team. Levis is a better pro prospect than Clifford, but let's not pretend he didn't have some bad games this year.
 
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