Iowa news - 2024-25

[jmadden1998]

It’s astounding to me that Iowa doesn’t have a ranked 125 lber. Is there a story to this with which I’m not familiar?

Top recruit quits wrestling his senior year and joins the Navy. 125 runner up last year moves up to 133.

 

[McScoreley]

Top recruit quits wrestling his senior year and joins the Navy. 125 runner up last year moves up to 133.

That top recruit was never going to be a 125 tbf

 

[backdrft76]

Every instinct Tom ever has . . . ends up being wrong. He really needs better leaders in his life.

Welcome back!

 

[Pennstate1985]

Every instinct Tom ever has . . . ends up being wrong. He really needs better leaders in his life.

Is your ban over already ? 😉

 

[slushhead]

Is your ban over already ? 😉

It may be difficult to believe, but not all Permanent Suspensions are permanent.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

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[mcpat]

Ybarra was the #16 overall recruit per Flo in 2020. Cruz was #33 in 2022.

 

[Pennstate1985]

It may be difficult to believe, but not all Permanent Suspensions are permanent.

Welcome back Montell

 

[Lyons212]

I have no clue of Drake's motivations clearly, but based purely on speculation I would think long term if you bring in 3-5 guys every year on a big NIL/Portal bag, eventually that's going to cause friction with the original recruits who might have got none or less. I also don't think a constant focus on money as the biggest deciding factor will attract 'properly' motivated stars. Clearly Carl has said if it's money that is most important to your decision, then PSU is probably not the place for you. I don't hear T&T saying that.

We may see a period of in house free agency a across the NCAA for the kids who are not content.

I hope our team doesn't go down that route and it certainly is looking like going forward at PSU your opportunity for money will be set mainly with your initial recruitment. Get the best to start, get them paid, and then keep the best.

No doubt we will lose some kids probably even next year due to being caught in a log jamb, but Otherwise most of the best come to PSU because it's the best place to beb for their wrestling, not the highest payer.

Iowa's strategy and draw is taking on the different form, and I think the constant flow of new high paid vets will hurt the culture and cohesion. You ready what you sow.

No doubt Drake could get a top dollar bag, but if I had to guess rumors of his departure are more of a negotiating tool to get more money to stay in house.

This is why James Franklin is very careful paying huge NIL money to portal guys, they have to fit within the current NIL structure on the team or you have problems.

Of course the midgets can't develop talent, they are forced to rely on the portal and all its problems.

 

[PD4thespawn]

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Thanks, my wife just walked in the room to see if I kicked off.

 

[danoftw]

Ybarra was the #16 overall recruit per Flo in 2020. Cruz was #33 in 2022.

Tom & Terry will work their development magic. They’ll turn them into bench guys and grab a portal guy to brag about in post match pressers

 

[El-Jefe]

It’s astounding to me that Iowa doesn’t have a ranked 125 lber. Is there a story to this with which I’m not familiar?

Slumlord Bob tried to poach every 125 in the country and they all said no.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

Kennedy on the mat vs Wisco.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

Arnold, not Ferrari out at 184 and gets a pin.

 

[PSUbluTX]

I don't want Iowa beaten in three weeks-I want them demolished, dispirited and embarrassed.

Ceterum (autem) censeo Iowum esse delendam

Latin is for wussies.
Respectfully,
S. Lee

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

Latin is for wussies.
Respectfully,
S. Lee

Isn't Lee's mother French? The country that invented the strategy of pre-emptive surrender?

 

[Random4598375]

Arnold, not Ferrari out at 184 and gets a pin.

If they’re still considering RS for Ferrari, this would be a really dumb match to burn one of his 5 appearances.

 

[Nitlion1986]

I know... and then you had Cael allowing wrestlers and coaches from all over the country into his room for events like trials and All Star matches. Weird the two think so differently huh?

Cael has had coaches and other school's athletes in his room during the season.

 

[82bordeaux]

it certainly is looking like going forward at PSU your opportunity for money will be set mainly with your initial recruitment.

This is not how it is being handled, and there are no plans to handle recruitment and NIL this way.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Cael has had coaches and other school's athletes in his room during the season.

You mean like this?

 

[johnstownsteel]

Cael has had coaches and other school's athletes in his room during the season.

Or maybe like this..

 

[Nitlion1986]

Or maybe like this..

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I have been in that room watching Snyder working out when he wrestled at OSU, and Gwiz when he wrestled at NCST.

 

[Bob_Anderson]

It’s astounding to me that Iowa doesn’t have a ranked 125 lber. Is there a story to this with which I’m not familiar?

Yeah, Iowa sucks at recruiting and couldn't buy anybody good to fill the spot. Tom and Terry Brands ran that program into the ground.

 

[GogglesPaizano]

This is not how it is being handled, and there are no plans to handle recruitment and NIL this way.

Yeah, wording could have been better, my intent was mainly focused on the strategy of NIL being focused organically (i.e. your own recruits) vs the portal. I am sure we will continue to have some portal kids inbound here and there, but not to the same proportion as Oky St, Iowa and Mich has over the past 2 years.

 

[Cowbell Man]

That top recruit was never going to be a 125 tbf

I’m all in on corner wrestlers joining the Navy, no matter how big they are.

 

[Creek Side]

Tom and Terry hand fighting training video that start all recruits on.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

If they’re still considering RS for Ferrari, this would be a really dumb match to burn one of his 5 appearances.

That was the idea..RS still under consideration.

 

[FatWoodchuck]

What happened with Metcalf?

I believe it is flo that has a docu. on Metcalf. It's a good one.

 

[AgSurfer]

I have been in that room watching Snyder working out when he wrestled at OSU, and Gwiz when he wrestled at NCST.

I know for a fact that Snyder was going against Nick Nevills in the PSU room while they both were still on their respective college teams. My understanding is that the NCAA rules don't allow for cross-contamination in practicing college sports, but having the OTC's provides a legal workaround.

 

[FatWoodchuck]

I believe it is flo that has a docu. on Metcalf. It's a good one.

It is flo there is a three episode series

 

[slushhead]

I know for a fact that Snyder was going against Nick Nevills in the PSU room while they both were still on their respective college teams. My understanding is that the NCAA rules don't allow for cross-contamination in practicing college sports, but having the OTC's provides a legal workaround.

3…2…1…
A GIA lurker gets word — pardon me, Gold Intel — to Tom & Bob that Snyder was shaving points in the Dual of the Millenium.
Paid for by Carl.

Of all the low-down, dirty, rotten, underhanded schemes to hold Iowa down.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Nicolls gets really testy when his band-aid approach to roster building gets even slightly criticized.

 

[nerfstate]

Nicolls gets really testy when his band-aid approach to roster building gets even slightly criticized.

Sunken cost fallacy can be a real b*tch. You almost wonder if Ira blew smoke up his ass. 😆

 

[mcpat]

We’ve done one year rentals too. Heck, we’ve even done one semester rentals.

 

[Random4598375]

We’ve done one year rentals too. Heck, we’ve even done one semester rentals.

Yes, of course, and we’ve been as successful as Iowa has been with them, which is to say Truax had the lowest finish of his career with us last year, but we still set the record without him. That’s par for the course for short term rentals, and for Penn State. The portal is there and it’s a tool that every successful program should try to use to their advantage, but I distinguish between short term rentals like Truax and guys with multiple years left like Mesenbrink or Caliendo on Iowa’s side. The long term guys who will be with the program for 3+ years are more like re-recruits than short term fixes and are guys you can build around just like a regular recruit. The one year grad transfers are just mercenaries meant to plug a hole, not a long term program-building strategy. Suriano is the only one-year grad transfer I can think of who actually won a national title, or even improved over his prior finishes.

 

[nerfstate]

Further, as far as we know, we aren’t dangling large bags of cash to bait a rental to come, and acting like we have things all figured out with that formula.

 

[Nitlion1986]

Huge difference between accepting transfers to plug in already going to win the championship teams and recruiting other teams' wrestling rooms hoping to stay relevant and find a trophy.

 

[El-Jefe]

Suriano is the only one-year grad transfer I can think of who actually won a national title, or even improved over his prior finishes.

Suriano doesn't really count because he was a returning national champ.

Last year, Davison and Gomez made the finals, and Olejnik made 5th (up 3 spots).

But it's not super common, and it'll get much rarer next year when the Covid year is history.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

Suriano doesn't really count because he was a returning national champ.

Last year, Davison and Gomez made the finals, and Olejnik made 5th (up 3 spots).

But it's not super common, and it'll get much rarer next year when the Covid year is history.

Time for Bird Flu!

"Over, nothing's over until we decide it is"

 

[PSU Mike]

Nicolls gets really testy when his band-aid approach to roster building gets even slightly criticized.

They clearly should have sunk their $$$ into coaches rather than rentals. I see little to no open recognition over there that OSU may not be in the rear view mirror as soon as season’s end.