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Iowa news - 2024-25

You might be confusing auto qualifying / earning an allocation vs seeding. Seeding is done by committee. They certainly look at records and RPI and whatever else, but it is not a formula.

A lesser ranked guy absolutely has more to gain than lose by wrestling. The committee could/would seed a 15-1 guy whose only loss was to #2 if they had other ranked wins over a 10-0 guy whose best wins were unranked and who coincidentally wasn’t able to take the mat vs some top guys.

Seeds are done by people, not formulas.
B10 seeds might be done by people (can't remember), but auto-qualifiiers, at-large berths, and NCAA seeds are done by formula. Committees can tweak NCAA seeds, but the seeding rules limit by how much.
 
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Teemer not listed for probables for Nebraska. Could in theory mean nothing but hearing some rumblings he might be out again ... maybe until postseason.
Word on GIA he had a family thing and had to go home and help the family. If true it just backs up for an Iowa wrestler he does have class
 
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Am I wrong in thinking this actually screws a Big10 kid on the borderline of getting an allocation spot and not so much Teemer?
That's exactly what will happen.

Teemer is a national finalist. He'll win his way in at B10s and steal a spot. (He can't forfeit out due to lack of matches and Win %.)

This will flow into the at-large candidate pool.

Also quite possible that a B10 guy who gets squeezed, doesn't qualify via at-large -- or maybe isn't even eligible for at-large.
 
Addendum: at this point, I won't be surprised if Teemer wins just enough matches to qualify -- i.e., reaches B10 semis -- and then forfeits out to be healthy for nationals.

Kasak would be the big winner here -- he would earn the 1 seed at nationals without having to beat Teemer again.

But it would majorly screw with the NCAA brackets. Teemer would get an artificially low seed due to his conference placement, low win %, lack of RPI, and lack of quality wins.

If that happens at B10s, then nobody should be surprised if Teemer gets the 15 seed and faces Shapiro in Round 2. Or an even lower seed.
 
Really sorry to hear that

I did hear from a somewhat reliable source he's nicked up still as well for the record but game of telephone can get interesting

UPDATE: Brands comment seems to imply he is still healing but it's Brands so it could literally mean anything as well since he obviously should protect his guys' personal information

Nobody gets better in that room. Lol
 
Really sorry to hear that

I did hear from a somewhat reliable source he's nicked up still as well for the record but game of telephone can get interesting

UPDATE: Brands comment seems to imply he is still healing but it's Brands so it could literally mean anything as well since he obviously should protect his guys' personal information

Nebraska has a shot to win this if Teemer is confirmed out. If Nebraska has their full lineup, they are clear favorite at 125, 141, 149, and 157 with bonus a real possibility at all of those except probably 149. They are probably a small favorite at 174, and Van Dee on the Nebraska side and Arnold on the Iowa side are volatile enough week-to-week that an upset could happen at 133 or 184 even if Iowa come in as favorites. 165 and 197 are the only weights where Iowa is a big favorite and should score bonus.
 
Nebraska has a shot to win this if Teemer is confirmed out. If Nebraska has their full lineup, they are clear favorite at 125, 141, 149, and 157 with bonus a real possibility at all of those except probably 149. They are probably a small favorite at 174, and Van Dee on the Nebraska side and Arnold on the Iowa side are volatile enough week-to-week that an upset could happen at 133 or 184 even if Iowa come in as favorites. 165 and 197 are the only weights where Iowa is a big favorite and should score bonus.

Further ratifying Bassett’s choice to go to Iowa to turnaround the program. 😉
 
Nebraska has a shot to win this if Teemer is confirmed out. If Nebraska has their full lineup, they are clear favorite at 125, 141, 149, and 157 with bonus a real possibility at all of those except probably 149. They are probably a small favorite at 174, and Van Dee on the Nebraska side and Arnold on the Iowa side are volatile enough week-to-week that an upset could happen at 133 or 184 even if Iowa come in as favorites. 165 and 197 are the only weights where Iowa is a big favorite and should score bonus.
Clear favorite at 149?
 
Lovett is career 0-2 vs Parco. Both were low-scoring, close matches, and one was in last year's 5th place match when Lovett wasn't quite right.

Still 0-2, so hard to call him a clear favorite.
You are right but I think at home In Nebraska he wrestles different and they really want to beat Iowa. I'm hoping he pulls the same shit he did with Van Ness and here's to van dee over Ayala
 
You are right but I think at home In Nebraska he wrestles different and they really want to beat Iowa. I'm hoping he pulls the same shit he did with Van Ness and here's to van dee over Ayala
From a SVN perspective do you want Parco to win for seeding purposes and if so, how would it play out for those three (Lovett, Parco, SVN)? Probably a question for later in the season but I am curious.
 
From a SVN perspective do you want Parco to win for seeding purposes and if so, how would it play out for those three (Lovett, Parco, SVN)? Probably a question for later in the season but I am curious.
If Parco wins, then B10 seeding is a complete crapshoot (without looking up exact records -- maybe one of them missed a match and thus has fewer conference wins).

If Shayne gets the B10 top seed, that's the best case. Parco getting the 1, with a Shayne vs Lovett semi, is the worst case.

My guess is that Lovett gets the B10 1-seed anyway. For non-conference as a tie-breaker, he finished 2nd at CKLV with an OT loss to the defending national champ (only loss this year). He'll have more good wins.

As far as NCAAs goes, they'll be the 2-4 seeds according to their B10 finish, behind Henson.
 
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If Parco wins, then B10 seeding is a complete crapshoot (without looking up exact records -- maybe one of them missed a match and thus has fewer conference wins).

If Shayne gets the B10 top seed, that's the best case. Parco getting the 1, with a Shayne vs Lovett semi, is the worst case.

My guess is that Lovett gets the B10 1-seed anyway. For non-conference as a tie-breaker, he finished 2nd at CKLV with an OT loss to the defending national champ (only loss this year). He'll have more good wins.

As far as NCAAs goes, they'll be the 2-4 seeds according to their B10 finish, behind Henson.
Do they look at margin of victory? If Parco wins but it close and low scoring again, then even though they're all 1-1 h2h, Lovett would have a major win and a close loss, SVN would have a major win and a major loss, and Parco would have a close win and a major loss. That would imply Lovett 1, SVN 2, Parco 3, which is as favorable as SVN can hope for given that he got smoked by Lovett.
 
Do they look at margin of victory? If Parco wins but it close and low scoring again, then even though they're all 1-1 h2h, Lovett would have a major win and a close loss, SVN would have a major win and a major loss, and Parco would have a close win and a major loss. That would imply Lovett 1, SVN 2, Parco 3, which is as favorable as SVN can hope for given that he got smoked by Lovett.
Tend to agree here, if it's rock-paper-scissors they'll go by margin of victory. Parco if he wins like 4-2 is the one with a close one so they'll go Lovett, SVN, Parco.
 
Do they look at margin of victory? If Parco wins but it close and low scoring again, then even though they're all 1-1 h2h, Lovett would have a major win and a close loss, SVN would have a major win and a major loss, and Parco would have a close win and a major loss. That would imply Lovett 1, SVN 2, Parco 3, which is as favorable as SVN can hope for given that he got smoked by Lovett.
Roar may be the only person on Earth who knows for sure, but I hope not even if it produces the result I prefer. So then does Parco get the 1 if he pins Lovett from neutral? Etc.

IIRC they look at B10 duals W-L and # conference matches first. That gives them groupings, which they can further refine with things like H2H within a grouping, full B10 W-L including tourneys, full NCAA record, top non-conference wins, etc.

Coaches Poll probably figures in there somehow too.

In any case, I suspect it'll be 1 Lovett, 2 Shayne, 3 Parco regardless of this dual. Lovett's wins at CKLV will break the 3-way tie.

But there is a chance Shayne gets the 1 if Parco wins, if he passes Lovett in the Coaches Poll.
 
Well, it's true that I think TnT are not very good coaches given their head start, advantages and track record. The last 14 or so years don't lie.
Conveniently choosing the last 14 years. I like 18 years so that gives them 4 national titles and 2 runner-up finishes. Name another coaching staff besides Cael and company with better results.
 
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If Iowa would have hired Taylor instead of Okie St, I wouldn't be mad. However, stating that Brands can't coach means neither can any other coach besides Cael if you are going by results.
Not if you prefer to gauge that ability on the value the coach adds rather than just rote results.

You agree with me too, or else you’d never be OK with Taylor over Brands. DT has never had a guy even place at NCAAs or conference.
 
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