M* is a solid recruiter. Shifting the focus from high school kids to other schools active rosters is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Where did you get your updates?? Not doubting you, I’m just limited to YouTube bc my toddler hijacked the tv...
M* is a solid recruiter. Shifting the focus from high school kids to other schools active rosters is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Oh now Malik makes Howard look like Daton Fix in comparison lolHe was smaller than every kid he wrestled in this tournament, not a couple. I think Robbie will be just fine staying at 125 and growing into the weight a bit.
I'm pretty sure he said he's coming back either way, he really wants to compete on the same team as his youngest son.If the riddler beats Nick Lee this year I think he’s done if he loses he comes back and gets spanked by Yianni.
Why are you consistently such a tool?Oh now Malik makes Howard look like Daton Fix in comparison lol
Where did you get your updates?? Not doubting you, I’m just limited to YouTube bc my toddler hijacked the tv...
I enjoyed the joke but four 5th-year guys isn’t really a big deal and you guys almost had Rasheed and Cassar back for 6th or 7th years, lol
I mean, how much is an NCAA championship worth when you’re talking about post-grad stipends, applying for coaching positions, starting your own club, etc? It sure can’t hurt, right? Plus, these guys have probably grown up wrestling as far back as they can remember and probably think they’ll be involved in the sport for the rest of their lives.
I think if I got a chance to put off adulthood and chase an NCAA championship, I’d probably go for it. Hell, I almost re-enlisted after a six-year contract to put off adulthood! My buddies still call me Archibald Henderson, haha!
No, I was having a poke at the Hawkeyes. It’s not often you can use Wehrmacht on this board and have it tie into a threadI don't think he was talking about Iowa. What he meant is that those older college guys in post WWII had gone through something that makes most of what we do today look like a cakewalk.
Not sure how it works. Can some edumacate me? If there are 9.9 skollies, can’t a skool deploy them however they want, including to someone that is in their 6th year and rec’d a full ride for all 6 years?Some of the guys mentioned above are apparently contemplating a 6th or 7th year. That's a cost to the family as you said...and not just in terms of dollars.
Isn't there a 9.9 exception for this? As long as the athletic department is willing to shell out, they'll be back. Small price to pay for back to back titles.
I thought all the NCAA did was grant the extra year of eligibility. I could be wrong but I think the coaches still need to manage to the 9.9 scholarships.
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“In addition to extending eligibility, the NCAA also adjusted their financial aid requirements by allowing teams to retain returning athletes without counting against scholarship limits.”
I remember my first beer.Congratulations to Iowa. They had a strong lineup top to bottom and the bonus point scorers in Lee, Disanto, Eirman, and Kem that allowed them to stack team points despite having less finalists. They won. Tip of the cap to them. Now having said all that bring on 2022. I don't care who comes back for Iowa, Cornell, or OK State. IMO we're the favorites. The upside for guys like Robbie, Kerk, and Beau will be huge with some additional time hitting the weights. Get Beard to focus on his conditioning and we could be looking at 4-5 Finalists and 8-9 AA.
Like to know the philosophy behind another title. They squeeked by this year and we had six freshman in the line up who will only get better. I get on paper iowa should win but on paper this year they should have blown is out by seventy points I'm guessing Kemmerer the bull and riddler all go. Murin may as well go he's holding up talent and young will be gone. That's a lot of holesIsn't there a 9.9 exception for this? As long as the athletic department is willing to shell out, they'll be back. Small price to pay for back to back titles.
Back from their long tours island hopping with the Marine landing forces in the Pacific theater and slugging it out against the Wehrmacht in the Low Countries
Guys that have been in school for as long as the guys from Iowa have been are losers.Congrats to Iowa. They have an excellent team from top to bottom. No weak weights. Mostly, they are looking to score points when they can. Great to see a line-up loaded with PA kids. Spencer is Spencer, he was special when he showed up and is one of the best of all time. DeSanto, honestly we are from the same area and a coach I respect thought he would wash out. Consistently improved and appears to be much more under control....well done. Kem, what can you say, the kid is all class, built himself up and should cruise past Carter, much as I hate it. He has great offense, defense and wrestles well on the mat. Marinelli, I'll never understand his aversion to nationals, but face it, his battles with Cenzo are epic. There are other guys on their team but this core group is really really good and they deserve the title.
They friggen earned it when everyone was targeting them.
There will be plenty of folks who don't take the free year, but 2022 is going to be wild.
M* is a solid recruiter. Shifting the focus from high school kids to other schools active rosters is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Yes, a coach can’t reach out to an athlete at another school. The student has to reach out first, or now the transfer portal give a coach the Greenlight to recruit.Not to sound like Sour Grapes, but isn’t it tampering or similar to actively recruit a student-athlete on another D-1 roster?
I just assumed the athlete had to enter the transfer portal first ?
Vodka is overseeing the compliance program. It's all good.Not to sound like Sour Grapes, but isn’t it tampering or similar to actively recruit a student-athlete on another D-1 roster?
I just assumed the athlete had to enter the transfer portal first ?
Exactly, guys like Bill Koll, who fought at Normandy and won a Bronze Star. Then wrestles at Iowa State Teachers College from 1946-1948.Back from their long tours island hopping with the Marine landing forces in the Pacific theater and slugging it out against the Wehrmacht in the Low Countries
Congrats to Iowa. They have an excellent team from top to bottom. No weak weights. Mostly, they are looking to score points when they can. Great to see a line-up loaded with PA kids. Spencer is Spencer, he was special when he showed up and is one of the best of all time. DeSanto, honestly we are from the same area and a coach I respect thought he would wash out. Consistently improved and appears to be much more under control....well done. Kem, what can you say, the kid is all class, built himself up and should cruise past Carter, much as I hate it. He has great offense, defense and wrestles well on the mat. Marinelli, I'll never understand his aversion to nationals, but face it, his battles with Cenzo are epic. There are other guys on their team but this core group is really really good and they deserve the title.
They friggen earned it when everyone was targeting them.
There will be plenty of folks who don't take the free year, but 2022 is going to be wild.
Why do you think we do it?This is the kinda crap that irritates the bejeezus out of me! The relentless positivity! Are you guys all freakin’ Mormons or something!?!
Bah Humbug!
LOL
All that has to happen to keep it legal is for a few middlemen to be involved that prevent direct communication between an athlete and a coach. For example (not saying this happened), friend of the Iowa program (RTC coach) talks to O'Toole's high school/club coach or vice versa.Not to sound like Sour Grapes, but isn’t it tampering or similar to actively recruit a student-athlete on another D-1 roster?
I just assumed the athlete had to enter the transfer portal first ?
Note- That is only for this year's seniors who elect to take the additional year. They will not count towards the 9.9 next season. All underclassmen who elect to take an additional year will count towards the 9.9. For teams with a lot of seniors, it can be an advantage. Teams that are heavy with junior starters are going have some serious decision to make if some of those guys want an additional year.A Second Chance: The NCAA’s One Year Eligibility Extension for College Athletes | Villanova University
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“In addition to extending eligibility, the NCAA also adjusted their financial aid requirements by allowing teams to retain returning athletes without counting against scholarship limits.”
Well the whole conversation revolves around Kem, Bull, and Eierman coming back, so what are you talking about? Plus, it's not about what you think. You don't think the Iowa athletic department believes they can repeat next year if they cover a few extra scholarships? Sure it was closer than expected (we'll see), but they won getting basically nothing from Marinelli and Murin. They have Assad still on the bench who has wins over the 3rd and 4th place finishers. They left a lot of points out there this weekend.Like to know the philosophy behind another title. They squeeked by this year and we had six freshman in the line up who will only get better. I get on paper iowa should win but on paper this year they should have blown is out by seventy points I'm guessing Kemmerer the bull and riddler all go. Murin may as well go he's holding up talent and young will be gone. That's a lot of holes
I remember my first beer.
Everyone on the Iowa team has said they are coming back. Some rumors Marinelli may now leave, that is their worst case scenario. Where Griffith ends up will be the huge if it happens to be Iowa or PSU.
Either way next year we will need some breaks/improvement to beat them.
Word has it young is leavingEveryone on the Iowa team has said they are coming back. Some rumors Marinelli may now leave, that is their worst case scenario. Where Griffith ends up will be the huge if it happens to be Iowa or PSU.
Either way next year we will need some breaks/improvement to beat them.
Not as many as we will make up. All of our guys wrestled better than their seed and they all have room to improve I think most of iowa's seniors will not come back but hey that's why they wrestle. My point was it's not like this year when iowa was the clear favorite. That ship has sailedWell the whole conversation revolves around Kem, Bull, and Eierman coming back, so what are you talking about? Plus, it's not about what you think. You don't think the Iowa athletic department believes they can repeat next year if they cover a few extra scholarships? Sure it was closer than expected (we'll see), but they won getting basically nothing from Marinelli and Murin. They have Assad still on the bench who has wins over the 3rd and 4th place finishers. They left a lot of points out there this weekend.
Interesting that Marinelli would not come back. He has not won a national championship which would eat at most people with his talent. His wife is the Director of Operations for the Iowa program, he is probably an Iowa state resident and probably gets discounted tuition through his wife...money is probably not an issue.