Is Narduzzi battling you guys for a lot of recruits?
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Narduzzi is going to battle us for some, if not in this class, down the road. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive. We will get more than our share, but he will get some we want.
I don't get the feeling Pitt has a great gain in momentum other than the curiosity factor they get when they have a coaching change every three or four years. Each new coach there beats their figurative chest but nothing ever changes. They screwed up in pushing Wannstedt out the door. He is a Pitt guy and didn't engage in the usual high school BS like their other recent coaches. I give it four years max and Narduzzi will be gone for greener pastures.
No - he is not. Frankly, I am not even sure he will last past one season before going to find a DC job somewhere.
That assumes some level of success at Pitt. Sparty is now at the level where it won't need to go after a Paul Chryst type with connections to the program just to get someone to replace Dantonio. Narduzzi needs to do better than 6-6 seasons at Pitt, IMO.
I agree, If and when CJF gets the team up to par, recruits will start to look at the chance to play right away and I think the Spitters will have plenty of opportunities for them to play.
don't think he'll be there long enough one way or the other to make a dent in Franklin's recruiting. He'll either A: succeed and get the hell out of there in 2-3 years or B: lose a bunch of games and get canned in 2-3 years. Either way, he's selling a vastly inferior product against a guy who knows how to recruit with a staff who follows his lead.
First things first, it's cute that as a Pitt fan you made a Spartansnation account to ask this question.
The answer to the question is outside of a 30 mile radius of Pittsburgh Narduzzi is no threat. Within the Pittsburgh area, he could be. You do not see many kids talking about/considering Pitt from New Jersey/DC/Eastern PA which should concern Pitt fans. It will depend on how Pitt does this year, which I don't think will be as well as some think. Their schedule is more difficult than last year and their recruiting has been sub par outside of Boyd and Conner.
The answer to the question is outside of a 30 mile radius of Pittsburgh Narduzzi is no threat. Within the Pittsburgh area, he could be. You do not see many kids talking about/considering Pitt from New Jersey/DC/Eastern PA which should concern Pitt fans. It will depend on how Pitt does this year, which I don't think will be as well as some think. Their schedule is more difficult than last year and their recruiting has been sub par outside of Boyd and Conner.
The only reason they got Boyd is due to the sanctions. And Conner wasn't even a big recruit, I don't even think PSU offered??? He fell to Pitt and they lucked out that the kid is a great ball player. He wasn't even recruited as a running back. They stepped in sh1t on that one. That's all. Nothing more.
So, going forward that is basically going to have to be their recruiting strategy against PSU....get lucky.
To be candid, it appears as though Franklin can REALLY recruit. The next test is Winning with talent. As more talent comes in the bar is raised! The next two years are kind of "a pass". After that he will have the players he recruited.
I think he will. Penn State is a program that hasn't suffered the same setbacks as Pitt. It looks as if we finally have a coach that both wants to be here and is doing all things necessary to change the face of the program. PSU and Pitt will battle for recruits but it will be hard to get those recruits who are in PSU heavy areas to give us a look unless we win.Period
Outside of the Pittsburgh area Narduzzi and Pitt are zero threat. There is little appeal to the program and they will get the leftovers from the Northeast and Midwest after others have chosen. In the Pittsburgh area will be some battles for the kids that just don't want to leave or who seek early playing time. Franklin will beat Narduzzi 100% of the time for a kid from Eastern PA/NJ/NY/MD if there are any actual battles. In Pittsburgh it will tougher and probably 50/50, fine for us since we have a large recruiting area, bad for Pitt because they don't. Also there is WVU, OSU, etc always snooping around area. You can't build better than a 6-7 win program with a roster made up of winning less than 50% of the battles in your only recruiting ground. That is the dilemna facing every Pitt coach. Narduzzi will be fine at Pitt. He'll keep them at the minor bowl level which should be enough for a potential bigger job down the line.
I am certainly no Pitt fan, but to say we will beat Pitt 100% of the time for Eastern PA/NJ/NY/MD kids is just not reality. A kid from that area may have any number of reasons to choose Pitt...playing sooner, family member went to Pitt, likes an urban campus, likes his position coach better, etc. We may get most. We will not get all.
Rumor is Wheeler verbals to PSU this weekend. That isnt going to help the online hype Narduzzi is trying to generate.
Can you name any recruit that Penn State has offered this year that you are afraid Pitt might beat us out for(outside of Pittsburgh) I can't think of one that has even mentioned the slightest interest other than Cameron brown including the min his top 10.
Last year was the same story.
I'm not afraid, just realistic. They will beat us sooner or later. The poster said we'd win 100% of those battles. No one gets 100%. For a year or two, yes, but not all and not all the time. I will happily be proven wrong.
He's trying his best for sure. Hell he's even copying some of JF's tactics, but I'm not sure he has JF's personality or charisma. He also has a school that rides a bus to practice and a stadium they share and barely get half full for most games unless a good team comes to town. Pitt will always land one or two local western Pa guys that are studs as they want to stay home. His problem is the program itself IMO and unless he can get the backing he needs he'll stay a few years and bail just like the last 2 coaches.
You can't be serious. Where have you been the last 3+ years? Sensible post otherwise.
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fairgambit - The point I am making is I can't even think of a high profile recruit from the Eastern PA/NJ/NY/MD etc area that I am talking about that is even mentioning Pitt as a top contender other than a vast top 10 type list. Thus the 100% comment. Obviously Pitt will get some WPIAL kids. If there is a 3-star Pitt legacy type from Philly or Baltimore they may beat us out but other in state kids like Menet, Angeline, McGovern, etc, barely know Pitt exists. We certainly aren't getting all of them but they won't be going to Pitt.
Maybe I'm being too precise on this but 100% allows no room for error. Once the new Pitt staff has a couple of years under their belts, they will be better. Like I said, I will gladly be proven wrong, but I firmly believe in the next few years they will take a couple of kids we want. We'll see. I really hope you're 100% right!
Franklin is doing a great job of recruiting to a great university with a great alumni and student support.
And with a great program that stands for Success With Honor and is home to the all-time winningest coach.
I actually disagree. I think Pitt needs to strike now while PSU is still vulnerable and they have the new coach smell regurgitating the same tired of line about the glory days of the WPIAL. Pitt needs to dominate the WPIAL this year and next or they have no shot to be any good and that's not going to happen. The gap will grow over next few years as PSU gets whole and the last few classes mature. We are not debating the competition in the West but I see zero evidence they are capable of landing a top prospect from NJ or Maryland. Narduzzi isn't even a charismatic guy, he was a very good Coordinator using Pitt as a stepping stone. Frankly I wouldn't even expect him to be there long term if he had any success.
I'm not a troll, for the record. I'm a MSU alum and MSU season ticket holder. I gave props that Franklin is a very good recruiter. I am a big fan of Natduzzi and was just wondering what the locals like yourselves are seeing from him. Sorry some( not all) are offended by my inquiry.
So, let me get this straight.....you are a MSU alum and Season ticket holder, yet have never signed up for a Rivals account, until now, and it was to only ask about Pat Narduzzi at Pitt. Sounds very realistic.
Does a mouse battle a king cobra? If so, yeah he is battling.
Pitt fans love his fire and that he isn't boring like Chryst. The problem they will run into is that he is an abrasive ass and parents won't like him.
Pitt fans love his fire and that he isn't boring like Chryst. The problem they will run into is that he is an abrasive ass and parents won't like him.
Well, he did use his ingenuity to come up with the concept of a "Pat Signal". It is now residing among the moth balls however, until he finds a use for it.
I don't know. His account says it was created in 2011. I think you guys might off here. Not a lot of history of him posting on MSU's site but still, can you fake the "Joined Date"?
I'm a Pitt fan and can tell you he is working. Really at this point, that is all you can ask of him. Pitt has a new administration top to bottom. They seem to be much more committed to football than the previous administration. Only time will tell.
He is working and, thus far, the results are no better than Paul Chrysts results on the recruiting trail. He may land some of the db prospects in Pittsburgh but he doesn't seem to be doing well anywhere else
Narduzzi has done a very nice job in a short period of time. He has brought in QB and DE transfers from Tennessee (both positions of need) and recently a judo WR. High school recruiting is a lot about relationships, which takes time to establish, and Pitt's current staff is light years ahead of the previous staff. Recruiting is also about performance on the field, which Pitt has been mediocre at best. However, I wouldn't pound my chest too strongly if I was a PSU fan because the jury is still out on Franklin's ability to win at PSU. I am a 70's Pitt grad who would like nothing more than for the Pitt/PSU rivalry to return to the greatness of the mid-70's to early 80's levels. I think Franklin and Narduzzi staffs will be successful recruiters which will hopefully make for some exciting games starting next year. If we start to win the heated recruiting battles between Pitt and PSU, which are now primarily in western Pa, will spread throughout Pa and into NJ and MD.
Big haul for Narduzzi last night. Brought in a 5'7 juco wr with no other offers. the same pitt fans celebrating narduzzi as can't miss with no coaching experience are the same who call out franklins coaching. Meanwhile Franklin did things at Vandy that were not done in 80 years.....Pitt fans will say because the schedule as if vandy's schedule has changed much at all. Vandy after franklin left....3-9. Michigan st recruiting after narduzzi left....taking off
