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Is Narduzzi battling you guys for a lot of recruits?

This year's class will tell a lot about Narduzzi's impact. As others have said, he may land some D-back recruits we are chasing, but with all of the talent we already have at that position, some of them may be scared off regardless. If he is to have any success at all, he's got to keep most the wpial talent home. Pitt is never going to make inroads in Ohio, NJ, or the DMV. It's not happening.

(And really, a Pat Signal? Must they always be so obvious about imitating us?)

If I were a Pitt guy, I would try hard to enjoy the upcoming season, because after Boyd and Connor are gone, there are no significant replacements behind them. In the meantime, our great recruiting classes will be ready to contribute.
 
rosshamam said:
However, I wouldn't pound my chest too strongly if I was a PSU fan because the jury is still out on Franklin's ability to win at PSU. I am a 70's Pitt grad who would like nothing more than for the Pitt/PSU rivalry to return to the greatness of the mid-70's to early 80's levels. I think Franklin and Narduzzi staffs will be successful recruiters which will hopefully make for some exciting games starting next year. If we start to win the heated recruiting battles between Pitt and PSU, which are now primarily in western Pa, will spread throughout Pa and into NJ and MD.
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Franklin has been here for one year while dealing with ridiculous sanctions. The jury isn't out on his ability to win at PSU. The reality is the matter hasn't even been sent to the jury yet. Spare us the lecture about not beating our chests. If we want to be excited we will be.

And you're dreaming if you think the PSU/Pitt head-to-head recruiting battles will extend into New Jersey or Maryland. A personal connection aside, blue chip kids there are unlikely to have Pitt near the top of their list.
 
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Like I said. Talk is cheap until results start coming in. I'm not saying Narduzzi will succeed and Franklin will not. I'm just saying that you know as much as I do right now and only time will tell how it plays out. What I do know is that Narduzzi has stoked the Pitt fan base and if he does win the Pitt/PSU rivalry could return to where it should be. And I'll address your next reply before you even post it. If Narduzzi wins he is no more likely to move to greener pastures than Franklin. Narduzzi is a blue collar coach who's hometown is much closer to Pittsburgh than East Lansing. And with the new Pitt administration, will be given every chance to maintain winning results, which hasn't always been the case at Pitt.
 
The Pitt fan base is "stoked" every 2-3 years when a new coach is brought in, then it slowly simmers out when reality occurs and they actually have to play games instead of talking about them. Need you be reminded about high octane, pedal to the medal, wanny wall, Paul Chrysts offensive genius?
 
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If you win, recruits will come. That's true if you are recruiting to PSU, Pitt or Boise State. We haven't been consistently successful recruiting the PA border states but there is nothing inherently bad about Pitt or Piitsburgh and armed with a successful performance on the field the Pitt staff will likely win their share of recruiting battles outside of western PA.
 
It's not hard to stoke the Pitt fan base, as your standards for excitement are very low. When it's considered great news to bring in a recruit out of medical school for a 5th year, who hasn't played in a while, and when he did play was only a backup, that in a nutshell explains your predicament.

So please, quit lecturing us on our smugness. You don't know what smug is.
 
I really miss this type of bantering. I never considered WVU our rival and I had way too many bad experiences at those games. But I grew up with the Pitt/PSU rivalry and I saw first hand a number of great games. It was no accident that those games were ABC's most watched game each year. I would like nothing more than both teams being successful and having an exciting product to watch. I believe Pitt got it right this time. I didn't feel this way about some of the other coach. And it's not only about Narduzzi. It's about the new chancellor, athletic director, assistant coaches and overall attitude. MUCH different than the recent past. Will that result in better results? Who knows. But if you are going to have a winning program you need good people from top to bottom and until proven wrong I believe we have that now.
 
rosshamam said:
Narduzzi has done a very nice job in a short period of time. He has brought in QB and DE transfers from Tennessee (both positions of need) and recently a judo WR. High school recruiting is a lot about relationships, which takes time to establish, and Pitt's current staff is light years ahead of the previous staff. Recruiting is also about performance on the field, which Pitt has been mediocre at best. However, I wouldn't pound my chest too strongly if I was a PSU fan because the jury is still out on Franklin's ability to win at PSU. I am a 70's Pitt grad who would like nothing more than for the Pitt/PSU rivalry to return to the greatness of the mid-70's to early 80's levels. I think Franklin and Narduzzi staffs will be successful recruiters which will hopefully make for some exciting games starting next year. If we start to win the heated recruiting battles between Pitt and PSU, which are now primarily in western Pa, will spread throughout Pa and into NJ and MD.
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nardi has done a nice job at what? Preventing pitt football from closing down?

If pitt starts to win...I've heard that before, many times.
 
rosshamam said:
I really miss this type of bantering. I never considered WVU our rival and I had way too many bad experiences at those games. But I grew up with the Pitt/PSU rivalry and I saw first hand a number of great games. It was no accident that those games were ABC's most watched game each year. I would like nothing more than both teams being successful and having an exciting product to watch. I believe Pitt got it right this time. I didn't feel this way about some of the other coach. And it's not only about Narduzzi. It's about the new chancellor, athletic director, assistant coaches and overall attitude. MUCH different than the recent past. Will that result in better results? Who knows. But if you are going to have a winning program you need good people from top to bottom and until proven wrong I believe we have that now.
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I'm guessing you didn't see Pitt win very often. 7-23-1 versus Paterno. By the way, we'd have been banned on your board after the first post
 
I made one borderline comment and that was about the chest pounding but I think I have been very fair and respectful. I'm a fan of another team and with that comes a differing opinion. I read PSU fan comments on the Pitt board and sometimes fan comment on both sides go overboard. But I think if done respectfully supporting your team on another school's board is healthy and fun and quite frankly, it doesn't hurt rivals.com either.
 
You hardly ever read PSU stuff on the Pitt board, because we are all immediately banned and our posts deleted. All you ever read about PSU over there is Paturdo this and Pedo that. There isn't a single individual over there who isn't an embarrassment to the human race, but the mods allow them free rein to say whatever they want. So please, spare us.
 
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mikemauti42 said:
I'm guessing you didn't see Pitt win very often. 7-23-1 versus Paterno. By the way, we'd have been banned on your board after the first post
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It takes a real idiot to come to this board and talk up nardi while talking down Franklin. There is no excuse, none, for pitt to have been worse than Penn State last season. pitt was at the full 85 scholarships and, as previously stated, Penn State was under ridiculous sanctions. Nevertheless, pitt crapped the bed in their bowl game (in epic fashion) and finished with a losing record, while Penn State won their bowl game and finished with a winning record. Of course, the pitt athletic supporters will tell us that things will be different under nardi. Yeah, we've heard that before, and we are certainly seeing the results under nardi.
 
mikemauti42 said:
He is working and, thus far, the results are no better than Paul Chrysts results on the recruiting trail. He may land some of the db prospects in Pittsburgh but he doesn't seem to be doing well anywhere else
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I'm not really sure what to say to you other than Name two PSU players that have performed as well as Conner and Boyd that Franklin recruited? I mean Chryst certainly didn't bring much excitement or hype with his recruiting. However, he certainly had an eye for offensive talent. Too bad he couldn't accomplish anything on defense.
 
Pitt is #1 said:
I'm not really sure what to say to you other than Name two PSU players that have performed as well as Conner and Boyd that Franklin recruited? I mean Chryst certainly didn't bring much excitement or hype with his recruiting. However, he certainly had an eye for offensive talent. Too bad he couldn't accomplish anything on defense.
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I'm pretty sure winning games is the most important thing (on the field).
 
We feel the same way about being banned on this board. I'm sure there banning going on in both boards but unless the post is disrespectful, and I'm not talking about having a differing opinion, I think the posts should be allowed. I agree that hitting below the belt shouldn't be tolerated on any board but we will be playing again for a few years and the bantering and fan bias is what makes sports, and for my 2 cents, college football so great. And forums like this make that type of bantering possible. There are bad fans on both sides and they should be weeded but I would hope that posts like mine should not be banned on any boards.
 
BobPSU92 said:
I'm pretty sure winning games is the most important thing (on the field).
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Nobody disagrees... Pitt has been a disappointment. I'm just pointing out production is more important than hype. Narduzzi has created a lot of excitement about Pitt on social media. I think it's great...but the bottom line is he will be judged on production.
 
Pitt is #1 said:
I'm not really sure what to say to you other than Name two PSU players that have performed as well as Conner and Boyd that Franklin recruited? I mean Chryst certainly didn't bring much excitement or hype with his recruiting. However, he certainly had an eye for offensive talent. Too bad he couldn't accomplish anything on defense.
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Given that most of Franklin's recruits are either freshmen or redshirts, what did you really expect up to this point?
 
So were Boyd and Conner when they began playing. I'm not knocking Franklin as much as I'm defending Chryst. He certainly wasn't my cup of tea. However, he improved the talent at Pitt. It may not have shown on the Rivals recruiting rankings...but he found lower rated players who were productive.
 
The Pitt posters that have contributed to this thread have been very respectful. I for one have been encouraged by your inputs. To continue to have good, if not agreeable, discussions, you will have to do it on this board. It will not happen on Pitt's board. Anyhow, to the Pitt posters in this thread.....
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Pitt is #1 said:
So were Boyd and Conner when they began playing. I'm not knocking Franklin as much as I'm defending Chryst. He certainly wasn't my cup of tea. However, he improved the talent at Pitt. It may not have shown on the Rivals recruiting rankings...but he found lower rated players who were productive.
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He had Boyd drop into his lap because of sanctions at Penn State. They got lucky with Conner who was a low rated defensive end recruit who ended up being tried at Rb. Outside of those two, you have a bunch of junk and 6-6 records to show for it. Wait until they leave next year. Offensively inept
 
mikemauti42 said:
He had Boyd drop into his lap because of sanctions at Penn State. They got lucky with Conner who was a low rated defensive end recruit who ended up being tried at Rb. Outside of those two, you have a bunch of junk and 6-6 records to show for it. Wait until they leave next year. Offensively inept
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We play on the field in 2016...no need pounding your chest over hypotheticals.
 
A prime example of what a pansy board Chris Peak runs is on display right now at Pantherlair. Some Pitt dolt starts a tread babbling nonsense about psu that's not relevant. Psu poster asks "can you guys go a minute without talking about penn state". His post is deleted, yet the irrelevant threat remains. That's Pitt for you....soft
 
We have our share of "A" holes too. Getting back to the 2016 game. You do realize Pitt will have a Senior laden highly rated offensive line. A senior 3 year starting qb. And 2 4* running backs. PSU OL is still a question mark. Then you will have a first year starter at qb. And a defense without Zettel. I like Pitt's chances...just sayin!
 
You mean your 5'8 qb who sucks and no wrs? Talent disparity will be great. You are in for a big disappointment. Your line is not as good as you think. Penn state faces much better in the big 10 and much more highly rated
 
Again....that's why they play the game. I may have an extra ticket if you want to sit with me...lol.
 
mikemauti42 said:
He had Boyd drop into his lap because of sanctions at Penn State. They got lucky with Conner who was a low rated defensive end recruit who ended up being tried at Rb. Outside of those two, you have a bunch of junk and 6-6 records to show for it. Wait until they leave next year. Offensively inept
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Agree with this. Pitts current roster is extremely bad. They did get a high caliber DE transfer that should be in the lineup for the 1st PSU game. But Boyd will probably be in the NFL by then.
 
I agree...but so will Hack. I'll put my money on our 5' 10" Senior qb over a freshman any day. Besides, I expect Pitt to be running the ball anyway. You won't have Zettel and your interior line will be young. It's not a put down...just a fact...senior teams tend to win over freshman and sophmores regardless of pedigree.
 
Pitt is #1 said:
I agree...but so will Hack. I'll put my money on our 5' 10" Senior qb over a freshman any day. Besides, I expect Pitt to be running the ball anyway. You won't have Zettel and your interior line will be young. It's not a put down...just a fact...senior teams tend to win over freshman and sophmores regardless of pedigree.
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The QB next in line after Hack will be a RS SO..unless someone outplays him. But I have no doubt its someone more highly recruited than whoever Pitt is starting. But replacing Hack, unless he has a phenomenal year, shouldn't be too difficult.
 
It's just like having a kid from RMU working for you for 4 years and a new kid from CMU. Regardless of where he is from...you're going to trust him more.
 
I'll have to correct my earlier post, Voytik appears that he was more highly recruited than McSorely, who the staff apparently likes right now as Hacks replacement. Pitt may have a QB edge that game.
 
We'll have a young QB with a million weapons to throw to. They will have an experienced QB with no weapons. They may or may not have a decent running back ready to step in, and we'll have a bunch.

I would rather be us, than them, in 2016.
 
Pitt has always won "some" recruiting battles. Pitt is not the same as PSU, for good or bad. But to be candid - we do NOT always recruit the same kids. There will always be some overlap. Offers are not the same as recruiting :) Plus there are a lot of factors, playing time is a big one, depth is another. Some do not want any competition. Some want to "emphasize" football over academics.
 
lionlurker said:
We'll have a young QB with a million weapons to throw to. They will have an experienced QB with no weapons. They may or may not have a decent running back ready to step in, and we'll have a bunch.

I would rather be us, than them, in 2016.
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It is always better to be Penn State.
 
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Pitt is #1 said:
I'm not really sure what to say to you other than Name two PSU players that have performed as well as Conner and Boyd that Franklin recruited? I mean Chryst certainly didn't bring much excitement or hype with his recruiting. However, he certainly had an eye for offensive talent. Too bad he couldn't accomplish anything on defense.
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How well did Boyd do against Akron and your bowl game when it counted? I know Boyd is a talent but I've just never had the warm fuzzy on him.
 
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