James Franklin most hated coach in the Big Ten?

[jmorovich]

Seems like these articles are coming weekly now...

God forbid a coach never takes his foot off the gas. I feel like I’m hearing one of the parents at my son’s basketball games who complain that it’s not fair how bad they are losing by.

Here’s an idea...if you don’t like it, stop them from doing it!

I think he learned his lesson when it comes to the “eye test” last year. What’s more impressive:

38-7
31-7
31-14

All voters see is the score at the end of the day. A meaningless TD either way can swing voters opinions. James knows this. Don’t ever give anyone a reason to doubt your team. He’s doing everything he can to put his team in the best position to be in the playoffs. Style points count. These writers needs to find a “Safe Place” and go away.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...rbaugh-michigan-spt-1009-20171008-column.html

 

[KCLion]

Seems like these articles are coming weekly now...

God forbid a coach never takes his foot off the gas. I feel like I’m hearing one of the parents at my son’s basketball games who complain that it’s not fair how bad they are losing by.

Here’s an idea...if you don’t like it, stop them from doing it!

I think he learned his lesson when it comes to the “eye test” last year. What’s more impressive:

38-7
31-7
31-14

All voters see is the score at the end of the day. A meaningless TD either way can swing voters opinions. James knows this. Don’t ever give anyone a reason to doubt your team. He’s doing everything he can to put his team in the best position to be in the playoffs. Style points count. These writers needs to find a “Safe Place” and go away.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...rbaugh-michigan-spt-1009-20171008-column.html

I looked at the writer and went no further. I could write his articles about Penn State very succinctly. " I hate Penn State, Penn State sucks! The should have never been in the Big10. The end!"

Recycle every week.

 

[NittPicker]

The writer must be grinding a pretty big ax. Why no mention of karma after Meyer hung 60+ on Maryland? If they hate Franklin that's a good thing. It means he's winning. Everybody loves playing a loser.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

Who the hell cares? The conference has hated PSU for 25 years, despite the fact that PSU is a good academic institution and generates massive amounts of revenue for the conference.

At this point, if we have a coach who is running up the score - great.

 

[LionJim]

Meh. That's article's stupid. They couldn't move the ball at all on the ground, that's why they were passing. Should they just kneel and give the ball back?

People have to write about something in the week between the games. It's how they make their livings. You have some people who can analyze the hell out of a football game, and you've got everyone else. Everyone else's job is easier, thus you get more stupid articles. It's what it is.

 

[demlion]

Seems like these articles are coming weekly now...

God forbid a coach never takes his foot off the gas. I feel like I’m hearing one of the parents at my son’s basketball games who complain that it’s not fair how bad they are losing by.

Here’s an idea...if you don’t like it, stop them from doing it!

I think he learned his lesson when it comes to the “eye test” last year. What’s more impressive:

38-7
31-7
31-14

All voters see is the score at the end of the day. A meaningless TD either way can swing voters opinions. James knows this. Don’t ever give anyone a reason to doubt your team. He’s doing everything he can to put his team in the best position to be in the playoffs. Style points count. These writers needs to find a “Safe Place” and go away.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...rbaugh-michigan-spt-1009-20171008-column.html

A question about methodology: are they taking into account the massive level of Self-Hatred which dwells in the heart of Jim Harbaugh?

 

[fairfaxlion2]

Just read the article - the author is truly out to lunch. why did Penn State call pass plays? Because NW was loading the box to stop the run. I guess we are supposed to call plays that will not work ? As long as we don't look too good, the rest of the B1G is OK with it. We don't want to hurt Fitzgerald's feelings by scoring 38 instead of 31.

 

[BBrown]

Seems like these articles are coming weekly now...

God forbid a coach never takes his foot off the gas. I feel like I’m hearing one of the parents at my son’s basketball games who complain that it’s not fair how bad they are losing by.

Here’s an idea...if you don’t like it, stop them from doing it!

I think he learned his lesson when it comes to the “eye test” last year. What’s more impressive:

38-7
31-7
31-14

All voters see is the score at the end of the day. A meaningless TD either way can swing voters opinions. James knows this. Don’t ever give anyone a reason to doubt your team. He’s doing everything he can to put his team in the best position to be in the playoffs. Style points count. These writers needs to find a “Safe Place” and go away.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...rbaugh-michigan-spt-1009-20171008-column.html

>>But why did Penn State call six passes in an eight-play drive while up 31-0? And two more passes up 31-7 inside two minutes?<<

I don't know maybe to get Stevens (that backup QB) some good game time?
Geez why was NW trying to score with seconds remaining?
Writer is an ass hat. I could have sworn I saw Urbs scoring 62 against a team that has the water boy playing QB.

>>Fitzgerald is equally noble, always putting the blame on himself.<<
Yea he must not have seen Fitz acting like a 2 year old on the sidelines in the first half.

 

[Obliviax]

Is the writer aware that PSU was VOTED out of the championship series despite winning the B1G? I guess we didn't pass the "looks test".

 

[ShoreLion85]

Who the hell cares? The conference has hated PSU for 25 years, despite the fact that PSU is a good academic institution and generates massive amounts of revenue for the conference.

At this point, if we have a coach who is running up the score - great.

Exactly - The BIG Ten conference, it's officers, referees, executives, and constituent institutions HATE Penn State - and have since we entered this corrupt, money-grubbing parochial hog-wallow of a conference. We upset their little mid-west applecart. We refused to lie down and accept the blatant favoritism shown to UM and OSU. It's our existence, not the Sandusky monstrosity, that they hate. Every Penn Stater needs to get this through their heads: The BIG Ten is an ENEMY, and each and every school in it, their Athletic Departments, their Administration, and their teams are ENEMIES. Not opponents, not fellow competitors, ENEMIES. The only reason I want PSU to remain in this fever swamp is to PUNISH our enemies. Especially the 2 "anointed ones" whose precious ownership of the Big 2 Little 8 we ruined.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

Is the writer aware that PSU was VOTED out of the championship series despite winning the B1G? I guess we didn't pass the "looks test".

The best sequence of events would be PSU winning the B1G 4/5 years, including a national championship, and then leaving the conference.

 

[bxle]

Author fails to point out that Northwestern did NOT take a knee and was still trying to score when they had the ball. And yes, they were also still throwing the ball.

 

[Obliviax]

Seems like these articles are coming weekly now...

God forbid a coach never takes his foot off the gas. I feel like I’m hearing one of the parents at my son’s basketball games who complain that it’s not fair how bad they are losing by.

Here’s an idea...if you don’t like it, stop them from doing it!

I think he learned his lesson when it comes to the “eye test” last year. What’s more impressive:

38-7
31-7
31-14

All voters see is the score at the end of the day. A meaningless TD either way can swing voters opinions. James knows this. Don’t ever give anyone a reason to doubt your team. He’s doing everything he can to put his team in the best position to be in the playoffs. Style points count. These writers needs to find a “Safe Place” and go away.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...rbaugh-michigan-spt-1009-20171008-column.html

 

[Obliviax]

Author fails to point out that Northwestern did NOT take a knee and was still trying to score when they had the ball. And yes, they were also still throwing the ball.

we were also "throwing the ball" with our second and third string.

 

[BBrown]

we were also "throwing the ball" with our second and third string.

I guess we need to apologize for our 2nd and 3rd stringers being better than their first string.
Someone que Rodney, he hasn't done much lately.

 

[Fayette_LION]

we were also "throwing the ball" with our second and third string.

Obli, ? for you. Heading up to Amherst and Vermillion area for a wedding this weekend, any major construction issues on TP Rt 80? Thanks.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

I guess we need to apologize for our 2nd and 3rd stringers being better than their first string.
Someone que Rodney, he hasn't done much lately.

Get ready for heads to explode if men's basketball breaks through this season. Especially if the scandal hits other B1G programs

I predict all of the above

 

[Ian]

As was Paterno. Its called change and the establishment doesn't like it.

 

[Obliviax]

Obli, ? for you. Heading up to Amherst and Vermillion area for a wedding this weekend, any major construction issues on TP Rt 80? Thanks.

No...some stuff around Elyria/Amhust but I haven't had any problems this summer. Make sure you hit "Hot Dog Heaven" for cheap meals and Chez Francois for something nice (Vermillion). Angry Bull if you want steak.

 

[osu68]

Is the writer aware that PSU was VOTED out of the championship series despite winning the B1G? I guess we didn't pass the "looks test".

TWO LOSSES were the cause!

BTW, I think UMeyer might qualify for the supposed title of 'most hated'. Success breeds success!?

 

[Agoodnap]

It's a good thing I'm not the coach. When Fitz kicked the on-sides kickoff with 1:45 to go down 24...I was pissed. I stood up and yelled that's a BS move and then tried to will Franklin to put the first team back in and score. Northwestern had no chance of winning at the point...none, zero, zip. The only thing that them getting the ball back and scoring would have accomplished is making Penn State look worse. At that point in the game, improving your loss from 4 scores down to 3 scores down is not much of an improvement.

 

[Obliviax]

TWO LOSSES were the cause!

Nope...it was a contributing factor, that much I'll agree upon. But we were better than tOSU, proved it on the field, that wasn't opinion. yet, they go and we don't.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

Nope...it was a contributing factor, that much I'll agree upon. But we were better than tOSU, proved it on the field, that wasn't opinion. yet, they go and we don't.

Yeah - but let's be honest about 2016. We lost to Pitt AND lost to Michigan by about 6 touchdowns.

The right answer was probably not sending PSU to the playoff. The right answer was probably sending nobody from the B1G. Western Michigan or Oklahoma could have gone

 

[JWB389]

Author fails to point out that Northwestern did NOT take a knee and was still trying to score when they had the ball. And yes, they were also still throwing the ball.

Not only that, NW tried the onside kick down 24 with 2 minutes left. When I saw that, I thought...take the gloves off JF. Score another one.

 

[trz103]

Tom Osborne was notorious for running up the score and is still glorified to this day. It cost us a title in 94 so I say play to the final whistle!

 

[Obliviax]

Yeah - but let's be honest about 2016. We lost to Pitt AND lost to Michigan by about 6 touchdowns.

The right answer was probably not sending PSU to the playoff. The right answer was probably sending nobody from the B1G. Western Michigan or Oklahoma could have gone

I've got no problem with this line of thinking. But anyone who thinks the playoffs are still not a beauty contest are kidding themselves. Its disingenuous. We played UM without a starting LB. Pitt also beat Clemson. More importantly, we beat tOSU on the field and won the B1G. Do you seriously think W MI was better than PSU last year? OK has an argument but lost their only difficult game to the team we beat. (edit, didn't they also lose to Houston making them a two loss team as well?)

So, back to the context of potentially running up the score, I say "hell's yeah!".

 

[marshall23]

I agree with careful consideration for all aspects of good sportsmanship and efforts not to demean an opponent in any way.
However, division one athletes are on scholarship and sufficiently seasoned and mature so that they are expected to wear big boy pants.
If you want the other team to run the football and let the clock expire play a base defense.

PS If you want to investigate the rules of engagement of a blowout.....Fitz should be castigated for his onside kick when PSU had already emptied the bench and conceded him his only touchdown. If I had been Franklin at that point I would have used timeouts to have my second team score again.

 

[Fox Chapel Lion II]

That's great. I'm glad CJF is hated. I'm glad we're all hated.

That means we're doing something right.

By the way, the very best coaches, the guys who win like machines? Saban. Meyer. Swinney. Belichick. Carroll. What do they have in common? Everybody hates them. I just hope CJF gets to that level of hatred.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

Not only that, NW tried the onside kick down 24 with 2 minutes left. When I saw that, I thought...take the gloves off JF. Score another one.

My guess is that Franklin thought it was getting ridiculous but did not want to risk a last-minute injury against these clowns. Contrary to the author of the article, I don't think it's insane to keep trying to score with a 17- or 24-point lead.

A 24-point cushion could be cut to 6 in very little time.

 

[ewb75]

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. Penn State really does not owe anyone an explanation or anything else for that matter. State needs to do what is in the best interest of Penn State. Let everyone else do what is in the best interest of everyone else. Hell, they always have before. State has done the "good guy" thing in the past and its bit her in the arse. An example would be a couple of late TDs by Indiana that voters used as cover to keep PSU from having the MNC in 1994. Last year, it was the "eye test," while clearly State was playing better than another team that made it. So as for any hack writer or coach or fan or whatever that whines about play calling, I say screw 'em. Furthermore, where is the moral outrage when our conference brethren are attempting to pass the eye test with 62-3 scores over hapless teams? Or wasn't it 70 that Wisky put on Nebraska a few years ago in the championship game? Give me a break.... damn snowflakes everywhere. And hypocritical ones at that.....

 

[fairfaxlion2]

I've got no problem with this line of thinking. But anyone who thinks the playoffs are still not a beauty contest are kidding themselves. Its disingenuous. We played UM without a starting LB. Pitt also beat Clemson. More importantly, we beat tOSU on the field and won the B1G. Do you seriously think W MI was better than PSU last year? OK has an argument but lost their only difficult game to the team we beat. (edit, didn't they also lose to Houston making them a two loss team as well?)

So, back to the context of potentially running up the score, I say "hell's yeah!".

I think Western Michigan would have done better in the playoff than Ohio State. Their only loss was in the bowl game to Wisconsin, by eight. We needed an instant-classic comeback to beat Wisconsin. Another option would've been Oklahoma.

Michigan and Penn State both had two losses and Michigan blew out PSU. I really can't fault the committee for putting PSU at #5. What I don't get is how Ohio State went.

 

[johnmpsu]

So long as an "eye test" exists teams will run up the score. I used to oppose ruts but after last season I would be happy winning every game 99-0. I still think we should keep it under 100. Until then, full steam ahead!

 

[ChiTownLion]

Let's get in the habit of linking the good articles for positive reinforcement and then copy/paste hit pieces like this. No need to reward them or their sponsors with clicks.

 

[psu00]

Is the writer aware that PSU was VOTED out of the championship series despite winning the B1G? I guess we didn't pass the "looks test".

It's the moving goalpost nonsense that is common in 'journalism' now- you see it in everything from politics to sports. If 'X' does it, it's ok. If 'Y' does the same thing it's unacceptable.

Last year it was the "eye test" nonsense of journalists that had them promoting Ohio St despite PSU winning both the big ten title and the head to head meeting over the buckeyes.

Now, suddenly they are upset that PSU beat Northwestern 31-7. Just for comparison, Ohio St puts up 60+ on Maryland, Alabama has been putting up scores like 59-0 over Vandy and 66-3 over Ole Miss. Yet there's not a word of complaint about Saban or Urban running up scores. Penn State wins 31-7 (with scrubs playing in the 4th quarter) and writers are now upset.

 

[Obliviax]

I think Western Michigan would have done better in the playoff than Ohio State. Their only loss was in the bowl game to Wisconsin, by eight. We needed an instant-classic comeback to beat Wisconsin. Another option would've been Oklahoma.

Michigan and Penn State both had two losses and Michigan blew out PSU. I really can't fault the committee for putting PSU at #5. What I don't get is how Ohio State went.

OK, lets walk through these:

• Penn State beat tOSU, head to head, and won the B1G
• Western Michigan's wins; where is their quality win?
  • NW
  • NC Central
  • Illinois
  • C MI
  • N Ill
  • Akron
  • E MI
  • Ball St
  • Kent
  • Buffalo
  • Toledo
• OK had two losses. Houston and the very same tOSU we beat (only shared opponent with PSU).
• Everyone else had two losses

Point being PSU had every right to a claim to a spot in the series. I understand we were a two loss team and tOSU was not. However, that only shows that the series is still a beauty contest. We still have voters having us NOT in the top four. There is a thread stating a one-loss GA team could jump us, if we also have one loss and win the B1G.

So, back to my point, we still need to run up the score.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

It's the moving goalpost nonsense that is common in 'journalism' now- you see it in everything from politics to sports. If 'X' does it, it's ok. If 'Y' does the same thing it's unacceptable.

Last year it was the "eye test" nonsense of journalists that had them promoting Ohio St despite PSU winning both the big ten title and the head to head meeting over the buckeyes.

Now, suddenly they are upset that PSU beat Northwestern 31-7. Just for comparison- Ohio St puts up 60+ on Maryland, Alabama has been putting up scores like 59-0 over Vandy/ 66-3 over Ole Miss, etc and not a word of complaint about Saban, Urban, etc running up scores. Penn State wins 31-7 (with scrubs playing in the 4th quarter) and writers are now upset.

Haha. It's really the perfect score to expose the sports writers' lunacy. 31-7 is not really running up a score. But it is clearly dominant and beats the spread. It also looks better than the Alabama or Clemson scores from last weekend.

 

[denniskembala]

It's the moving goalpost nonsense that is common in 'journalism' now- you see it in everything from politics to sports. If 'X' does it, it's ok. If 'Y' does the same thing it's unacceptable.

Last year it was the "eye test" nonsense of journalists that had them promoting Ohio St despite PSU winning both the big ten title and the head to head meeting over the buckeyes.

Now, suddenly they are upset that PSU beat Northwestern 31-7. Just for comparison, Ohio St puts up 60+ on Maryland, Alabama has been putting up scores like 59-0 over Vandy and 66-3 over Ole Miss. Yet there's not a word of complaint about Saban or Urban running up scores. Penn State wins 31-7 (with scrubs playing in the 4th quarter) and writers are now upset.

The writer appears to be some Northwestern dooflankus who didn't take the beating very well. He covers varied sports of theirs.

 

[psu00]

My guess is that Franklin thought it was getting ridiculous but did not want to risk a last-minute injury against these clowns. Contrary to the author of the article, I don't think it's insane to keep trying to score with a 17- or 24-point lead.

A 24-point cushion could be cut to 6 in very little time.

True. Just this year alone we've seen UCLA come from behind (38-10) to beat Texas AM. From what I understand, Oklahoma was up by 14 points 2-3 times Saturday and led like 24-7 (?) but still lost to Iowa State, in Norman.

 

[JWB389]

Trying to remember the last play or 2 of the game. We didn't really go downfield, did we? It appeared that we could have tried to put up more points, but we backed off, no?

 

[fairfaxlion2]

Trying to remember the last play or 2 of the game. We didn't really go downfield, did we? It appeared that we could have tried to put up more points, but we backed off, no?

After the punt return got called back for blocking in the back on #23 (which they never showed on replay), we stopped trying to score.