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James Franklin most hated coach in the Big Ten?

Reality is the days of sportsmanship in college football are gone with respect to running up the score. I saw Oklahoma with Stoops a few years ago up 30+ points midway through the 3rd quarter running a hurry up offense to score more points. What about OSU this weekend putting 60 up on UMD, why didn't they stop when they hit 40 points as 100% sure that UMD wasn't going to score with the 4th string QB in the game. So piling on PSU is just the writer's way of trying to get clicks on his website.
 
I hope they hate him for long long time. That means they fear him. Nothing would make me happier than to run the score up on Michigan and Ohio State as well as Michigan State. I don't think we are good enough to yet but it would make me happy.
 
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James Franklin is the living embodiment of Karma. He is delivering payback to those that have earned it.

BTW, I think UMeyer might qualify for the supposed title of 'most hated'.

I'd have to agree. Most people I run into seem to really like Franklin, it's only a few losers on the internet trying to turn him into something he isn't. Let's face it, people have learned that writing fake news about PSU generates clicks, this is just the continuation of that.
 
This is easy to answer... up the playoff to the top 16 teams and be done with it. Add 2 more games for 2 teams and 1 game for 4. Not that hard to comprehend.
 
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Trying to remember the last play or 2 of the game. We didn't really go downfield, did we? It appeared that we could have tried to put up more points, but we backed off, no?
  • (1:46 - 4th) Luke Otto on-side kick recovered by PENN ST at the Nwest 41

  • 1st and 10 at NW 41
    (1:38 - 4th) Tommy Stevens pass complete to DeAndre Thompkins for 8 yds to the Nwest 33

  • 2nd and 2 at NW 33
    (1:19 - 4th) Mark Allen run for 4 yds to the Nwest 29 for a 1ST down

  • 1st and 10 at NW 29
    (1:02 - 4th) Mark Allen run for no gain to the Nwest 29

  • 2nd and 10 at NW 29
    (0:25 - 4th) Tommy Stevens pass complete to Brandon Polk for 11 yds to the Nwest 18 for a 1ST down
 
I did think it was a bit weird we didn't take a knee after recovering the on-side kick.

The drive before, though .... everything was perfectly fine. Get Stevens and company their game reps.

Besides, when you're running the RPO - many of the plays WILL BE passes because that's the correct read!
 
No...some stuff around Elyria/Amhust but I haven't had any problems this summer. Make sure you hit "Hot Dog Heaven" for cheap meals and Chez Francois for something nice (Vermillion). Angry Bull if you want steak.
Thanks obli, appreciate your help
 
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Franklin and his staff have a responsibility to get Tommy Stevens as many snaps as possible. They have no responsibility to wipe the tears of opposing fans.
Many years ago when offenses were 75-80% run plays, there was no call for throwing with a comfortable lead. The game has changed with the spread, deal with it. Once you start to sub, any and all plays are part of the menu.
I think it is a wonderful thing if PSU Football is hated....Reggie Jackson said,"fans don't boo nobodies." Perhaps FDR said it best..."I'd like to be judged by the enemies I've made." (I think JVP would be okay with this as well.
 
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I think Western Michigan would have done better in the playoff than Ohio State. Their only loss was in the bowl game to Wisconsin, by eight. We needed an instant-classic comeback to beat Wisconsin. Another option would've been Oklahoma.

Michigan and Penn State both had two losses and Michigan blew out PSU. I really can't fault the committee for putting PSU at #5. What I don't get is how Ohio State went.

I'm willing to bet PSU would have done better than OSU in the playoff. We went toe to toe with USC who was arguably the hottest team at the end of last year. I'm pretty sure we would not have been shut out in a playoff game.

BTW - we should have won that USC game.
 
Exactly - The BIG Ten conference, it's officers, referees, executives, and constituent institutions HATE Penn State - and have since we entered this corrupt, money-grubbing parochial hog-wallow of a conference. We upset their little mid-west applecart. We refused to lie down and accept the blatant favoritism shown to UM and OSU. It's our existence, not the Sandusky monstrosity, that they hate. Every Penn Stater needs to get this through their heads: The BIG Ten is an ENEMY, and each and every school in it, their Athletic Departments, their Administration, and their teams are ENEMIES. Not opponents, not fellow competitors, ENEMIES. The only reason I want PSU to remain in this fever swamp is to PUNISH our enemies. Especially the 2 "anointed ones" whose precious ownership of the Big 2 Little 8 we ruined.

Haha! Excellent. Well said, sir. Franklin should paste this on his refrigerator. When it comes to football, everything about this conference sucks -- starting with its arrogant jerk commissioner. We’ve been resented and treated as unwelcome interlopers since Day One.
 
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If 31-7 is running up the score these days, I'm not sure what is going on.
 
Haha! Excellent. Well said, sir. Franklin should paste this on his refrigerator. When it comes to football, everything about this conference sucks -- starting with its arrogant jerk commissioner. We’ve been resented and treated as unwelcome interlopers since Day One.
It started before day one. Getting forced into the Blockbuster Bowl preseason, and the basketball team having practically nobody to play in 1991-92. The conference we were about to "join" refused to help
 
This is easy to answer... up the playoff to the top 16 teams and be done with it. Add 2 more games for 2 teams and 1 game for 4. Not that hard to comprehend.

There are 65 P5 teams. The answer is to kick one team out, let's say Pitt, since they have the worst AD of all P5 schools, and the move could save our tax dollars. Then dissolve the B12 and get those teams absorbed into the other conferences.

Two to the ACC (assuming they would keep ND)
Two to the B10
Two to the SEC
Four to the Pac12

Each 16 team conference would have two division winners. So we essentially have an 8 team tournament with no added games. After conference championship Saturday, you match up the B10/Pac12 champs in the rose bowl, and the SEC/ACC in the sugar bowl. The winners of those games plays for the NC a week later at a rotated location.
 
Article is written by a notorious PSU hater.
That is a long and undistinguished list. We have this guy from NW, Ron Cook from NW, and the USAT woman from NW. Must be something in the Lake Michigan water.

By the way I didn't read the article. I have only so much time available for stupidity. It's too bad we didn't score again and REALLY give him something to whine about.
 
That is a long and undistinguished list. We have this guy from NW, Ron Cook from NW, and the USAT woman from NW. Must be something in the Lake Michigan water.

By the way I didn't read the article. I have only so much time available for stupidity. It's too bad we didn't score again and REALLY give him something to whine about.
As soon as I saw the byline, I disregarded the entire thing.
 
James Franklin is the living embodiment of Karma. He is delivering payback to those that have earned it.



I'd have to agree. Most people I run into seem to really like Franklin, it's only a few losers on the internet trying to turn him into something he isn't. Let's face it, people have learned that writing fake news about PSU generates clicks, this is just the continuation of that.

Except for Rutgres fans. They have perfect hate for every school, including their own!
 
It's a good thing I'm not the coach. When Fitz kicked the on-sides kickoff with 1:45 to go down 24...I was pissed. I stood up and yelled that's a BS move and then tried to will Franklin to put the first team back in and score. Northwestern had no chance of winning at the point...none, zero, zip. The only thing that them getting the ball back and scoring would have accomplished is making Penn State look worse. At that point in the game, improving your loss from 4 scores down to 3 scores down is not much of an improvement.
Why? That's what a coach is supposed to do. Even if it isn't meaningful that week. Game practice of that situation might win a game down the line for them.
 
JF most hated coach in the Big 10? As long as the haters aren't Penn Staters, I would think that would mean that he is doing an effective job kicking their arses. Should have a 200k bonus clause in his contract for each year he is the most hated.
 
Guys, remember that we live in Snowflake World today. Everyone gets a trophy after the game and then milk and cookies and a big hug, win or lose. The key is not to hurt anyone's feelings. That way, we're all winners and life is special. We must constantly reinforce these virtues with everyone, lest someone has a sad.
 
Hated by who? Opposing fans...that is because he is winning and doing it much faster than many anticipated. If you are a well liked HC, you probably aren't winning at a great clip. Pat Fitz is a loved coach and he is doing a great job at NW, but how many titles has he won? Had he won 2-3 titles, people here would have been irate at him for screaming on the sidelines during the game. I'd rather have a hated coach than a well liked one...sorry, but opposing fans hated Joe too.
 
Guys, remember that we live in Snowflake World today. Everyone gets a trophy after the game and then milk and cookies and a big hug, win or lose. The key is not to hurt anyone's feelings. That way, we're all winners and life is special. We must constantly reinforce these virtues with everyone, lest someone has a sad.
Just keep everyone on ignore cupcake, big boys are talking. ;)
 
After the punt return got called back for blocking in the back on #23 (which they never showed on replay), we stopped trying to score.
Success breeds envy. PSU was supposed to be dead and 5 years after the sanctions win the Big Ten title. Plus the fact that he is recruiting against tOSU and Michigan and doing extremely well.
 
There are 65 P5 teams. The answer is to kick one team out, let's say Pitt, since they have the worst AD of all P5 schools, and the move could save our tax dollars. Then dissolve the B12 and get those teams absorbed into the other conferences.

Two to the ACC (assuming they would keep ND)
Two to the B10
Two to the SEC
Four to the Pac12

Each 16 team conference would have two division winners. So we essentially have an 8 team tournament with no added games. After conference championship Saturday, you match up the B10/Pac12 champs in the rose bowl, and the SEC/ACC in the sugar bowl. The winners of those games plays for the NC a week later at a rotated location.

I get the animosity toward Pitt and wanting to exclude them, but I doubt The NCAA would do that since they 1. are located in an NFL city home to one of the best and most storied franchises 2. have a very good history. I would think TCU, Louisville, Wake Forest, Duke, or Rutgers would be easier sells for exclusion.
 
Meh. That's article's stupid. They couldn't move the ball at all on the ground, that's why they were passing. Should they just kneel and give the ball back?
Plus Tommy Stevens was in the game at QB and what's wrong with allowing him to throw some balls to get some experience.
 
  • (1:46 - 4th) Luke Otto on-side kick recovered by PENN ST at the Nwest 41

  • 1st and 10 at NW 41
    (1:38 - 4th) Tommy Stevens pass complete to DeAndre Thompkins for 8 yds to the Nwest 33

  • 2nd and 2 at NW 33
    (1:19 - 4th) Mark Allen run for 4 yds to the Nwest 29 for a 1ST down

  • 1st and 10 at NW 29
    (1:02 - 4th) Mark Allen run for no gain to the Nwest 29

  • 2nd and 10 at NW 29
    (0:25 - 4th) Tommy Stevens pass complete to Brandon Polk for 11 yds to the Nwest 18 for a 1ST down
Good. I like it.
 
I get the animosity toward Pitt and wanting to exclude them, but I doubt The NCAA would do that since they 1. are located in an NFL city home to one of the best and most storied franchises 2. have a very good history. I would think TCU, Louisville, Wake Forest, Duke, or Rutgers would be easier sells for exclusion.


NCAA has no say in defining FBS and the playoff!!! They exist only because for basketball (and they've completely f*cked that up with recent events); the football conferences will tell Emmert and successors to pound salt and GTFO!!!!
 
I get the animosity toward Pitt and wanting to exclude them, but I doubt The NCAA would do that since they 1. are located in an NFL city home to one of the best and most storied franchises 2. have a very good history. I would think TCU, Louisville, Wake Forest, Duke, or Rutgers would be easier sells for exclusion.

Now what fun would that be?

All those programs you list are better than Pitt. Plus it would be doing pitt fans a huge favor.
 
The writer must be grinding a pretty big ax. Why no mention of karma after Meyer hung 60+ on Maryland? If they hate Franklin that's a good thing. It means he's winning. Everybody loves playing a loser.
In Obie’s year at Columbus we were getting throttled with a depleted roster. I recall them being up 40-50 points. We went for it on 4th down and the ref gave us the spot. Meyer challenged the spot and won. Never read one negative writer comment. Their beef is with PSU not Franklin. Bastards.
 
In Obie’s year at Columbus we were getting throttled with a depleted roster. I recall them being up 40-50 points. We went for it on 4th down and the ref gave us the spot. Meyer challenged the spot and won. Never read one negative writer comment.
The topic was raised on message boards as I recall. It seems most people felt that Meyer was out of line and running the score up, while others called people "whiners" for pointing that out, lol. The usual. My feelings about that whole season, were to wonder how, and exactly WHY, Bill O'Brien gave a coordinator job to a guy who had never done the job before, and has not done the job since. Can't hire your friends for jobs they don't qualify for, I think Bill learned that in 2013.
 
The topic was raised on message boards as I recall. It seems most people felt that Meyer was out of line and running the score up, while others called people "whiners" for pointing that out, lol. The usual. My feelings about that whole season, were to wonder how, and exactly WHY, Bill O'Brien gave a coordinator job to a guy who had never done the job before, and has not done the job since. Can't hire your friends for jobs they don't qualify for, I think Bill learned that in 2013.
When you say most people are you referring to board regulars or media? I’m referencing the media.
 
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