Jimmy Gulibon

[nitlion6]

Not sure what to make of Jimmy's performance. Frustrating. What makes it more so is despite what our good friend Spyker insinuates, in the room Jimmy is extremely competitive with those around his weight.
As far as the staff sticking with Jimmy, the staff pays attention and they certainly know and understand the situation infinitely better than any of us ever will. However there are several data points available to us if we choose to consider real information. The biggest and most obvious, at least in my opinion, is this one.

Jimmy Gilibon's 2016 Big10 performance is the reason we raised the 2016 B1G wrestling championship banner last Sunday. We all like to poke fun at our friends from HR, and everybody that posts here is certainly aware of the 43 page tribute to Brody Grothus and how he was going to be the difference in helping the Hawks claim their rightful place atop the team podium last season. The point differential between Jimmy's runner-up finish at the Big10 champipnships and Brody's 0 -2, if reversed is enough to allow the Hawks to win last year's B1G championship. In the past Jimmy has stepped up and certainly has the ability to step forward and be a game changer again.

 

[KidNittany]

Not sure what to make of Jimmy's performance. Frustrating. What makes it more so is despite what our good friend Spyker insinuates, in the room Jimmy is extremely competitive with those around his weight.
As far as the staff sticking with Jimmy, the staff pays attention and they certainly know and understand the situation infinitely better than any of us ever will. However there are several data points available to us if we choose to consider real information. The biggest and most obvious, at least in my opinion, is this one.

Jimmy Gilibon's 2016 Big10 performance is the reason we raised the 2016 B1G wrestling championship banner last Sunday. We all like to poke fun at our friends from HR, and everybody that posts here is certainly aware of the 43 page tribute to Brody Grothus and how he was going to be the difference in helping the Hawks claim their rightful place atop the team podium last season. The point differential between Jimmy's runner-up finish at the Big10 champipnships and Brody's 0 -2, if reversed is enough to allow the Hawks to win last year's B1G championship. In the past Jimmy has stepped up and certainly has the ability to step forward and be a game changer again.

He clearly didn't want to wrestle yesterday, how much of a problem that is we'll see. He lost to Schuyler and ended up BIG Runner-Up so who knows. Totally natural for people to start to question the spot right now. He now has to rebound from the worst loss in his career. I love Jimmy but he needs to want it. As long as he does he will contend.

 

[purescurve]

He clearly didn't want to wrestle yesterday, how much of a problem that is we'll see. He lost to Schuyler and ended up BIG Runner-Up so who knows. Totally natural for people to start to question the spot right now. He now has to rebound from the worst loss in his career. I love Jimmy but he needs to want it. As long as he does he will contend.

I think he needs to watch a Rocky movie before he wrestles, that reminds me I need to visit cyclonefanatic. It's been too quiet.

 

[johnstownsteel]

I think he needs to watch a Rocky movie before he wrestles, that reminds me I need to visit cyclonefanatic. It's been too quiet.

I venture over there myself but it always feels like I'm gonna get punched in the mouth while I'm there. Weird..I know...

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

He clearly didn't want to wrestle yesterday, how much of a problem that is we'll see. He lost to Schuyler and ended up BIG Runner-Up so who knows. Totally natural for people to start to question the spot right now. He now has to rebound from the worst loss in his career. I love Jimmy but he needs to want it. As long as he does he will contend.

He wants it, that's not an issue. Needs to get out of his own head. A sports psych would do him wonders.

 

[21Guns]

Jimmy seems to wrestle better when the stakes are higher, but if he continues to spiral downward, his seed will be so low that the mountain might be too hard to climb, in order to qualify for nationals. Right now I see that as the main issue. A decision does not need to be made until late January however, and in Cael I trust. With that said, I see BIG improvement in Kade Moss.

 

[LemonPie]

Haircut. Shave it all.

 

[liex26]

I think he needs to watch a Rocky movie before he wrestles, that reminds me I need to visit cyclonefanatic. It's been too quiet.

...... Vision Quest

 

[lionlover]

He wants it, that's not an issue. Needs to get out of his own head. A sports psych would do him wonders.

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +1000

 

[21Guns]

...... Vision Quest

Take Down, with Lorenzo Lamas and Edward Herrmann. Don't laugh, GREAT movie about wrestling, VERY hard to find though.

 

[pipe999]

Take Down, with Lorenzo Lamas and Edward Herrmann. Don't laugh, GREAT movie about wrestling, VERY hard to find though.

Ahem.... And it's not great, btw....

 

[CholleyVandine]

Ahem....

View embedded media

And it's not great, btw....

Lol. That movie has a long road to travel just to make it to fair. Most definitely not great.

 

[kingslayer_85]

Not sure what to make of Jimmy's performance. Frustrating. What makes it more so is despite what our good friend Spyker insinuates, in the room Jimmy is extremely competitive with those around his weight.
As far as the staff sticking with Jimmy, the staff pays attention and they certainly know and understand the situation infinitely better than any of us ever will. However there are several data points available to us if we choose to consider real information. The biggest and most obvious, at least in my opinion, is this one.

Jimmy Gilibon's 2016 Big10 performance is the reason we raised the 2016 B1G wrestling championship banner last Sunday. We all like to poke fun at our friends from HR, and everybody that posts here is certainly aware of the 43 page tribute to Brody Grothus and how he was going to be the difference in helping the Hawks claim their rightful place atop the team podium last season. The point differential between Jimmy's runner-up finish at the Big10 champipnships and Brody's 0 -2, if reversed is enough to allow the Hawks to win last year's B1G championship. In the past Jimmy has stepped up and certainly has the ability to step forward and be a game changer again.

Agree with this and am a fan of jimmy, hoping that he resolves the mental side of the equation so that he can finish his career with another AA

 

[Brian LB-U]

Chris Penn and his buddies were wrestlers in The Wild Life (1984)....

 

[El-Jefe]

What, nobody thinks he should watch the naked wrestling scene from Borat on a continuous loop until March?

 

[21Guns]

Ahem....

View embedded media

And it's not great, btw....

To each their own. Plenty of critics liked this movie and it had a nice run on HBO. A good, small budget movie, and Ed Herrmann was a very respected actor.

 

[AFHawk86]

I think he needs to watch a Rocky movie before he wrestles, that reminds me I need to visit cyclonefanatic. It's been too quiet.

Watching Rocky worked for the Cubs!

There hasn't been a post on the Cyclone board in 8 days other than andegre posting wrestlestat updates.

 

[Needanap]

To each their own. Plenty of critics liked this movie and it had a nice run on HBO. A good, small budget movie, and Ed Herrmann was a very respected actor.

What's not to like. Marsha Brady as the HS sweetheart and Flounder from Animal House as the token fat Band Kid. How could this not be classic?

 

[PapaBearSLIM]

Ahem....

View embedded media

And it's not great, btw....

Neither was Vision Quest

 

[liex26]

Neither was Vision Quest

I've never seen Take Down (1979) but I've never been a fan of anything Lamas has ever been in.
I haven't seen Vision Quest since I was a kid, but we owned the VHS and watched the heck out of it then. I'm sure it's like most movies from our childhoods, they don't hold up over time.

 

[tikk10]

Since thread has drifted that way, shout out to the film Win Win, which was only partly about wrestling but they mostly got the wrestling stuff right (and the lead kid was a NJ state champ). Worth finding if you're a wrestling fan.

 

[PapaBearSLIM]

Since thread has drifted that way, shout out to the film Win Win, which was only partly about wrestling but they mostly got the wrestling stuff right (and the lead kid was a NJ state champ). Worth finding if you're a wrestling fan.

Was actually a good movie.

 

[matter7172]

Since thread has drifted that way, shout out to the film Win Win, which was only partly about wrestling but they mostly got the wrestling stuff right (and the lead kid was a NJ state champ). Worth finding if you're a wrestling fan.

I was thinking about Win Win also.

Set in New Providence, NJ, which had a pretty good program for many, many years. I wrestled in college with two guys from NP. So the part about New Providence being a sad sack program didn't ring true for a local. Although, maybe life imitating art, they have not been at their past levels recently.

And, yes, Alex Shaffer was the 119 champ in 2010. I thought they did the wrestling part of the movie well, but I think that was true of Vision Quest, also.

Back to JG - if I were Cael, I'd be tempted to allow Jimmy a couple of weeks to clear his head and figure out if he really wants to wrestle - because he did not look like he wanted to wrestle at all in the consolation loss by pin.

 

[Golic55]

Nothing compares to Body Slam with Roddy Piper.

 

[Diego Badman]

To each their own. Plenty of critics liked this movie and it had a nice run on HBO. A good, small budget movie, and Ed Herrmann was a very respected actor.

Absolutely agree with you. I watched it on HBO numerous times. It was one of those enjoyable, family-oriented movies. To me, it's one of those "old" HBO classics like "Hollywood Knights (remember Robert Wuhl as Newbomb Turk?)

 

[CholleyVandine]

And, yes, Alex Shaffer was the 119 champ in 2010. I thought they did the wrestling part of the movie well, but I think that was true of Vision Quest, also.

And the two degrees of separation between Win Win and the current PSU roster ... Alex Shaffer was two years ahead of Gary Dinmore at Hunterdon Central. He won the state title as a sophomore. He and Dinmore would have been teammates for two years if Shaffer hadn't left the sport after the title.

 

[Needanap]

And the two degrees of separation between Win Win and the current PSU roster ... Alex Shaffer was two years ahead of Gary Dinmore at Hunterdon Central. He won the state title as a sophomore. He and Dinmore would have been teammates for two years if Shaffer hadn't left the sport after the title.

Unfortunately Dinsmore is struggling to make 149, and is no longer in the conversation for 141. Being # 2 to Retherford is what it is.

 

[LemonPie]

Unfortunately Dinsmore is struggling to make 149, and is no longer in the conversation for 141. Being # 2 to Retherford is what it is.

He is also the # 2 to Nolf and Joseph, so he's a pretty important member of the team.

Edit: Probably just Nolf.

 

[Azchief32]

Take Down, with Lorenzo Lamas and Edward Herrmann. Don't laugh, GREAT movie about wrestling, VERY hard to find though.

Think Jimmy will be the guy that kicks ass when somebody kicks out the jams on a boombox?

 

[CholleyVandine]

Unfortunately Dinsmore is struggling to make 149, and is no longer in the conversation for 141. Being # 2 to Retherford is what it is.

He was a 152 pounder as a senior in high school, so 141 always seemed like a long shot to me.

LP - Morelli, Brill and Livingston are all listed at 165/174 on the roster. Are we sure that none of them is certified at 165?

 

[21Guns]

Think Jimmy will be the guy that kicks ass when somebody kicks out the jams on a boombox?

LMAO

 

[LemonPie]

He was a 152 pounder as a senior in high school, so 141 always seemed like a long shot to me.

LP - Morelli, Brill and Livingston are all listed at 165/174 on the roster. Are we sure that none of them is certified at 165?

Actually, you're right about Livingston. He actually wrestled pretty well at Keystone. He would be the backup at 165. Glad to see him recover from his 285 attempt haha. Pretty sure we heard that Morelli certified at 174.

Still, Dinmore the #2 at 157.

 

[21Guns]

Nothing compares to Body Slam with Roddy Piper.

Gimme a link I'll check it out, haha.

 

[Dogwelder]

... Win Win ... they did the wrestling part of the movie well ...

Doing the sport part well is important. I watched a judo (I think) movie once, _Red Belt_. The judo part was horrible. The coach would keep yelling "Breathe!" to his students during matches. You know, because they were not breathing right. I've never heard a wrestling coach yell that during a match.

 

[CropDuster507]

The dude has some lackluster matches, but maybe he's just struggling in a few positions and the parity at his weight is such that he can beat a tough, highly-ranked guy and lose some head-scratchers. He's kind of the Jake Short of the Nittany Lions, but he performs at B10's.

What I'm trying to say is, that we might just be writing our own narrative that helps us sleep at night. For all we know, he could love the sport and just not be finishing attacks, frustrated. He probably doesn't wake up despising the sport, like some of you are insinuating.

Maybe give Moss a shot. Hell, give anyone a shot. But we don't know that Jimmy is in this insurmountable turmoil. He could just be struggling. Many teams would kill for a Jimmy Gulibon.

 

[a_mshaffer]

The dude has some lackluster matches, but maybe he's just struggling in a few positions and the parity at his weight is such that he can beat a tough, highly-ranked guy and lose some head-scratchers. He's kind of the Jake Short of the Nittany Lions, but he performs at B10's.

What I'm trying to say is, that we might just be writing our own narrative that helps us sleep at night. For all we know, he could love the sport and just not be finishing attacks, frustrated. He probably doesn't wake up despising the sport, like some of you are insinuating.

Maybe give Moss a shot. Hell, give anyone a shot. But we don't know that Jimmy is in this insurmountable turmoil. He could just be struggling. Many teams would kill for a Jimmy Gulibon.

yep, you are right Crop. All speculation at best. Only Jimmy and some coaches may know the whole scoop.

 

[tikk10]

It's tempting to play armchair psychiatrist when you have a history of watching a particular athlete and the diagnosis seems obvious enough, but I'm always hesitant to speculate because what do I really know? I generally assume parents of the wrestlers and even some of the wrestlers read this and other boards so where I feel comfortable presuming to know why the hell NY Ranger defenseman Dan Girardi suddenly can't make an outlet pass after 6 or 7 seasons in the league, I feel less comfortable presuming to get into the heads of student athletes (except where they're instant public figures like, say, Johnny Manziel.)

But such speculation comes with the territory of participating in a sport where there are fans; the more fans, the more privacy is lost. And some of the speculation is natural projection--many of us are ex-wrestlers and can recognize when a wrestler is going through something. So it'd be odd if there were no speculation. But I still check myself if it means going negative on a kid.

 

[Azchief32]

It's mental. For example, Bo comes out to wrestle with a lack of respect for his opponents and it shows...ragdolls them around. Same with your other two killers. Are they that much more physically or technically dominate? No. It's what they expect to go out and do and they do it. Same thing with Anthony Valencia...he was a house of fire for a year but then got thumped in freestyle and he has been pulled back into the pack every since. DT kills everybody in folk and probably should have beat Burroughs in free but cannot beat Dake at least once.

Yet another example was 2015 NCAAs with Gilman vs Moisey. I watched as Gilman was warming up and Moisey was sitting on the mat leaned back on his hands waiting for semis to start like he didn't have a care in the world. He had some mental juju going on. I thought to myself, "This kid just does not give two f*cks" and it made him dangerous. It's also why Jimmy always wrestled Clark tough...In his mind, Clark was his main rival...his measuring stick so to speak and his pride kicked in. If that Jimmy could show up every match, welp...Jimmy has always had the talent, just not consistent confidence.

 

[RoarLions1]

I read the last two posts, and immediately had the thought about a 2nd Baseman that just couldn't make that throw to 1st Base. Was it Chase Utley? Bizarre really...it's the shortest frequent throw made in baseball.

 

[CholleyVandine]

I read the last two posts, and immediately had the thought about a 2nd Baseman that just couldn't make that throw to 1st Base. Was it Chase Utley? Bizarre really...it's the shortest frequent throw made in baseball.

Steve Sax. He's got a syndrome named after him.