Jimmy Gulibon
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Chuck Knoblauch went through a period like that with the Yankees (he is #3 on the baseball "yips" list; Sax is #2).
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/5-worst-cases-of-yips-in-baseball.htm
His was the most extreme I've seen (because I was watching the Yankees a lot in 1999). You would wish he would just race the runner to first base or just run to the mound if he felt he couldn't outrace the runner and hand the ball to the pitcher. Any throw was an adventure.
Personally, I don't know what is going on with Jimmy but that last match at the Palestra was way beyond the pale. His giving up was so palpable. The only comparable one I've seen was Bubba Jenkins again Metcalf at BJC in the Big Tens in 2009.
I wouldn't call it the Yips...he just doesn't want to wrestle it seems like. Watched the match against Enriquez from App State; hadn't saw it. Not a big time opponent, one that he should be owning...just didn't want to be out there and let the guy have what he wanted. Hadn't watched it because I'm not much for schadenfreude...even with you guys. I have been watching Jimmy for years...this is not him and it goes much deeper than Sax Syndrome which is a mental block...same thing with Lester who had problems throwing to first. Both go to consciously aiming the ball but do their primary job well overall. This is different. I am a Hawk fan and hope he loses against us and in the big tournaments...but I hope that for all of your guys. Still, hate to see it if you know what I mean...this kid has put his whole life into the sport.
SIAP, but Win Win is a great flick....
As for Gulibon, the thing I see over and over from him is a lack of a go to shot. He half shoots almost all the time and often seems to almost work himself out of takedowns. I think this likely is all confidence. If he can somehow regain it he can probably turn things around. Here's hoping for his sake that he does.
As for Gulibon, the thing I see over and over from him is a lack of a go to shot. He half shoots almost all the time and often seems to almost work himself out of takedowns. I think this likely is all confidence. If he can somehow regain it he can probably turn things around. Here's hoping for his sake that he does.
And therefore what? After 4 years in the room if he can't find his game it's not there / it's not available to us. Time to give Kade a shot. Did Nick graduate yet?
Everybody loves the backup QB. Until he becomes the starter.
Hate how Cael always gets it wrong rating his talent. My hunch is Jimmy turns this thing around.
I'm pulling hard for Jimmy. He's a great talent, and from all I see a great kid. I've felt for years (as others have said), that his battle is in his mind. I've watched a lot of his matches. When he believes in himself, he's very, very good! When he doesn't, he's average. I can still remember watching his semi-final bout a couple of years ago at the Scuffle against Thorn of Minnesota. They both had cradles locked on each other late in the match. Jimmy just willed himself to hold on for the win. The same thing when he wrestled Clark in the dual 2 years ago and he willed himself to take Clark down late for the win. I've seen other matches where he shoots like he doesn't expect it to work and it doesn't. I really have no idea how Jimmy will do this year. BUT, I sure am pulling for him and sure hope to see him on the podium in March!!
I am hoping Jimmy can find his way and am rooting for him, but if Cael makes a change, then I will be rooting equally for Kade. I don't favor one kid over another.
All good insights Crop, but here's the real question. Are you the real Kanye West?
Jimmy was a highly ranked wrestler when he commited to Penn State.
In my opinion, he still is. He just perhaps has not done what some fans expected.
Now all I can say is he put in five hard years for Penn State and he most likely feels worse
about what he has done than any of posters here.
As a opponent of Penn State I still wish and hope he can find himself and finish out ok.
Just don't beat a Hawk.
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In my opinion, he still is. He just perhaps has not done what some fans expected.
Now all I can say is he put in five hard years for Penn State and he most likely feels worse
about what he has done than any of posters here.
As a opponent of Penn State I still wish and hope he can find himself and finish out ok.
Just don't beat a Hawk.
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Jimmy was a highly ranked wrestler when he commited to Penn State.
In my opinion, he still is. He just perhaps has not done what some fans expected.
Now all I can say is he put in five hard years for Penn State and he most likely feels worse
about what he has done than any of posters here.
As a opponent of Penn State I still wish and hope he can find himself and finish out ok.
Just don't beat a Hawk.
It's early. There is time to find a way, for every wrestler who hasn't hit his stride yet.
March is a LONG ways away.
Jimmy was a highly ranked wrestler when he commited to Penn State.
In my opinion, he still is. He just perhaps has not done what some fans expected.
Now all I can say is he put in five hard years for Penn State and he most likely feels worse
about what he has done than any of posters here.
As a opponent of Penn State I still wish and hope he can find himself and finish out ok.
Just don't beat a Hawk.
I think the expectations where insanely high for Jimmy given his pedigree and insane resume of 4x PIAA champ.
However, I think people overlooked the fact that he was less dominant every year of high school. Derry Area dropped from AAA to AA after Jimmy's sophomore year, which should have made it a little easier for him and his matches got closer at states.
Being a 4x champ in PA is just insane, but I think he was really far ahead of the curve as a freshman and kids closed the gap every year on him. When you look at guys like Zain, Nolf, Vincenzo Joseph, Megaludis, Taylor, McIntosh etc who had insane resumes as well by the time they were seniors they were simply way outclassing every kid and running through states like a hot knife through butter for two years. If I remember correcty Jimmy was fighting and battling in the semifinals and finals his last two years at states.
Jimmy is a fine wrestler and great person, but I think he's been at his ceiling for a couple of years now while others have simply been able to pass him once they got into a D1 room.
Do you really think AA vs AAA that significant. Tell that to Zain. Jimmy Martin, Scotty Lynch, Cary Kolat ...
The difference in quality between AAA and AA is vast if looking at the field. It naturally narrows when looking at champs vs champs.
Listing Zain, Martin, Lynch, Kolat or the Hughes brothers as examples to prove AA is on par with AAA is a very select example and has no statistical practicality.
In the AA tournament the top kid may have one stiff challenge from the field, sometimes 2 tough matches. In AAA the norm is generally 2, 3 sometimes 4 tough matches.
The singular elite can come from anywhere
At the top of AA and AAA, no. And of course there is always going to be exceptions. Not every AAA guy is going to be better than his AA counterpart.
Depth wise, though? Yes, there is a pretty good difference in quality of the depth at each weight. The top of both classes is really good, there's no question about that, and guys like Zain Retherford are proof. But it's harder to run through an AAA bracket at PIAA's than it is a AA.
"The field closing the gap" is a little unfair considering the last 2 state runners up were Randy Cruz and Nick Zanetta.
I've said this before, but IMO Jimmy was a 4x champ because Zain was ineligible that one year. They were both AA and very likely would've both been at 126. And that's no knock on Jimmy.
I've said this before, but IMO Jimmy was a 4x champ because Zain was ineligible that one year. They were both AA and very likely would've both been at 126. And that's no knock on Jimmy.
Regarding the actual fighting and battling at States, here's what Jimmy experienced:
2012 (senior year)
R1: 11-3 dec over Zane Heller (Becca)
Quarters: 8-1 dec over Ian Brown (Hanover)
Semis: 14-4 major over Corey Bush (Ridgway)
Finals: 9-3 dec over Nick Zanetta (Keystone Oaks)
2011 (junior year)
R1: 23-7 TF over Trevor Hernandez (Biglerville)
Quarters: 20-5 TF over Nathan Giorgio (Schuylkill Valley)
Semis: 19-4 TF over Colt Cotten (Benton)
Finals: 6-5 dec over Randy Cruz (Becca)
FWIW, in the PIAA 2011 Class AA States, you had the following:
Jason Nolf champion at 103
Darrian Cruz 3rd at 103
Nick Roberts champion at 112
Zain Retherford 3rd at 112
Zeke Moisey 5th at 112
Mason Beckman champion at 125
Laike Gardner 2nd at 130
Mike Racciato champion at 135
Austin Matthews 2nd at 140
Luke Frey 3rd at 140
Zack Beitz 3rd at 145
Travis McKillop champion at 160
Cody Wiercioch 2nd at 160
Elliot Riddick 4th at 160
Nataniel Brown champion at 171
Wes Phipps 2nd at 171
etc.
The Jimmy situation is what is. He may have not reached the levels many fans had in mind but all in all it's been a pleasure being a fan and I'm certainly glad he became a Nittany Lion. I really do hope he goes away knowing his contributions were noticed and appreciated.
I was just letting everybody who gives a hoot about the kid's grooming habits that the mullet is history
Agree and may be time for me to go with my favorite quote , the following from thedore Roosevelt
"it is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotion; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly so that he is place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat"
Will have to alway thank my high school coach for having this poster in our gym
Hahaha. I'm really not a PSU football fan. That was all just trolling. Shocking, I know. Man, has he ever made me look bad. You can't tell me the winner of PSU/Wisconsin deserves a playoff spot over Washington (if they win the Pac 12) though.
If y'all didn't know before, I will let you know now. I am a bandwagon PSU t-shirt fan. Original Iowa hater. I will follow Cael. Haven't been to PA since I was a kid. AND I LIKE JIMMY JOHN'S
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Lol, I like Jimmy Johns too, but when in Philly, there are better choices.
Yes, Washington is my west coast team. If they win the Pac 12 they should be final 4. Hopefully VT can beat Clemson.
If Washington wins they are in and the big debate is going to be Penn State or tOSU for the final spot if PSU win the BigTen Championship.
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Hmmm. Ohio St. seems like a lock despite the silliness of the Big 10. With a Pac 12 title and one loss, Washington should be a lock as well, but people really like to get down on that conference. I hope I'm just paranoid and y'all are right about Washington.
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Only PSU fans will be debating that.
I'm hoping for chaos and debate by many though because the playoff should be 8 teams.
If Penn State wins the conference, it is certain to generate some discussion about criteria among the so called experts however ultimately I think the committee will pick tOSU and I'm fine with that. I have no desire to see PSU play Alabama. Rose Bowl would be my personal preference. The buckeyes haven't looked so hot lately, let them get rolled by the tide.
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my feelings exactly. This is a great season right now. But lets win the big and then go to Pasadena and beat CU.
tO$U resume is better than ours even with our blocked FG, but if Spitt isnt an L, its a whole other discussion.
"Haven't been to PA since I was a kid."
So now you are saying you have never been to PSU wrestling practice? Not that this is a surprise.
Getting owned by 'Bama isn't anybody's idea of fun, but if we are going to take conference non-champions over field determined conference champions then get rid of the committee and just take the top 4 from the AP.
I would think the first year of the 4 team playoff proved the validity of subjective beauty contest placements. Everybody knew Alabama and Florida St were the 2 best teams, well at least until they had to win games against better OSU and Oregon teams.
If Penn State wins the Big10 championship, Penn State would have the best Big10 record that would include an actual victory over the other possible Big10 team.
The committee can put the Buckeyes in that playoff if the want to, but they gain the same objective credibility as AP sports writers if they do. That is a group of fans who are allowed to pick their team favorites.
I would think the first year of the 4 team playoff proved the validity of subjective beauty contest placements. Everybody knew Alabama and Florida St were the 2 best teams, well at least until they had to win games against better OSU and Oregon teams.
If Penn State wins the Big10 championship, Penn State would have the best Big10 record that would include an actual victory over the other possible Big10 team.
The committee can put the Buckeyes in that playoff if the want to, but they gain the same objective credibility as AP sports writers if they do. That is a group of fans who are allowed to pick their team favorites.
Not sure Alabama owns PSU or other big 10 teams. Wisc beat LSU in the same manner that Alabama did , the sec is very weak and haven't done well in out of conference games.
The PAC 12 is weak with mich having stomped colo who is playing in there championship. I would put OSU and PSU in and let the PAC 12 sit out
The PAC 12 is weak with mich having stomped colo who is playing in there championship. I would put OSU and PSU in and let the PAC 12 sit out
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