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Julian Fleming

Fleming's recruitment might not be over yet. I have a feeling that Jim and UM will try to flip this kid down the road especially after he sees the mind-boggling passing numbers Shea Patterson and his NFL destined receivers - Peoples-Jones, Collins and Black - put up in 2019. They're without a doubt the best receiving group in the country. I believe all three receivers will be 1st or 2nd round picks when they choose to leave UM. What HS receiver wouldn't want to be part of a program like that ? Fleming will take notice hopefully flip to Jim when the time comes.
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Fleming's recruitment might not be over yet. I have a feeling that Jim and UM will try to flip this kid down the road especially after he sees the mind-boggling passing numbers Shea Patterson and his NFL destined receivers - Peoples-Jones, Collins and Black - put up in 2019. They're without a doubt the best receiving group in the country. I believe all three receivers will be 1st or 2nd round picks when they choose to leave UM. What HS receiver wouldn't want to be part of a program like that ? Fleming will take notice hopefully flip to Jim when the time comes.


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Fleming's recruitment might not be over yet. I have a feeling that Jim and UM will try to flip this kid down the road especially after he sees the mind-boggling passing numbers Shea Patterson and his NFL destined receivers - Peoples-Jones, Collins and Black - put up in 2019. They're without a doubt the best receiving group in the country. I believe all three receivers will be 1st or 2nd round picks when they choose to leave UM. What HS receiver wouldn't want to be part of a program like that ? Fleming will take notice hopefully flip to Jim when the time comes.
Lol. Hilarious. Thanks!
 
Only problem with that is Fleming won't know which Michigan QB would be throwing him the ball as jimbo will be looking in the transfer portal for Patterson's replacement.
If that does happen, he'll take a seat in 2021 when JJ McCarthy hits the UM campus. He's probably the top national HS QB of the last 10 years.
 
If that does happen, he'll take a seat in 2021 when JJ McCarthy hits the UM campus. He's probably the top national HS QB of the last 10 years.
If you say so. What happened to all those 4 and 5 star QBs that harbaugh has recruited? Why does he keep going and getting transfers?
I guess once McCarthy hits the field maybe Michigan may be able to win the Big 10 East
 
Nothing spurs recruiting like winning the big games. The staff has done a great recruiting job when weighed against last year’s record. I see anything from 9-13 wins next year. We are loaded at the skill positions on both sides of the ball. If we win 2-3 of the OSU, UM and MSU games , the recruiting fir 2021 will be top five.
 
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As we saw with Parsons, it isn’t a sure thing until a recruit signs ( even then, it isn’t sure with transfer rules ).
I expect JF to not burn any bridges with Fleming if he commits elsewhere at this point.
I hope he sticks at osu. Give me Lambert, Dottin, and Washington. Dream if one of Rosemy, Redding, Manuel, Britt, Gowdy too
 
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Fleming has at least one more commit video in him - either a video re-committing to OSU after a late season flirt with a sexy previously unconsidered suitor (USC, Oregon, Texas, Oklahoma, ND) or a new commit video altogether (after OSU craps the bed). This dude is not finished being twitter famous...
 
You literally :rolleyes: don't know what you're talking about. Zero insight into either program. The US News and World Report Rankings (ignoring, for the moment, the utter idiocy of using those "rankings" as anything other than bird cage liner) have NOTHING to do with the relative emphasis (and requirements) that a particular FOOTBALL PROGRAM may place on academic pursuits.


That doesn't make the "the kid went somewhere else because of academics" excuse any less lame, weak, and pathetic...…. but it does go to highlight the idiocy of your "mirror image" argument :confused:.
And, even more pathetically, your determination to run to an internet message board of a "rival" program - - - like a brain-damaged Pavlovian Dog - - - to thump your weak and shallow chest over a 18 (19?) year old kid's decision to join the OSU football program.





FWIW (not much :) ):

https://web3.ncaa.org/aprsearch/gsrsearch


BigTen Football: Graduation Success Rates / % of Football Players Graduating (National Average = 62%)

Northwestern 99 / 92
Minnesota 89 / 71
Michigan 87 / 69
Wisconsin 86 / 72
Maryland 84 / 62
Indiana 83 / 68
Penn State 82 / 66
Michigan State 82 / 67
Nebraska 82 / 72
Illinois 81 / 65
Iowa 80 / 64
Rutgers 78 / 55
Purdue 77 / 64
THE Ohio State University...….. 64 / 44 (37% for AfAm Football Players)


Notice any outliers?
Check the latest APR scores and get back to me. Also, reading other teams boards is entertaining if nothing else. Don’t act like you haven’t.

Besides, everything I wrote was fact. Nothing of what you posted was in opposition to my statement. I was calling ESRC out for his idiotic commentary. At no point did I say I had any insight into either program. At no point did I put PSU down. It’s a great school.

Feel free to try another “rebuttal” because your first one was a whiff.
 
Fleming has at least one more commit video in him - either a video re-committing to OSU after a late season flirt with a sexy previously unconsidered suitor (USC, Oregon, Texas, Oklahoma, ND) or a new commit video altogether (after OSU craps the bed). This dude is not finished being twitter famous...

that would not be that far fetched in terms of a flip. we have an actual season to play, and the OSU group need to show on the field what they can do. If Clemson shows on the field and they keep pressing, it would not be that much of a stretch to see him down there.

BTW - what is the real speed on this guy??? is 4.67 40 his real time? he would be in the bottom group of our skill players with that time. I thought he was like some kind of state sprint champ in track. usually when we see a WR in the top 10 national recruits they are a burner so that time does not seem to fit.
 
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that would not be that far fetched in terms of a flip. we have an actual season to play, and the OSU group need to show on the field what they can do. If Clemson shows on the field and they keep pressing, it would not be that much of a stretch to see him down there.

BTW - what is the real speed on this guy??? is 4.67 40 his real time? he would be in the bottom group of our skill players with that time. I thought he was like some kind of state sprint champ in track. usually when we see a WR in the top 10 national recruits they are a burner so that time does not seem to fit.

Dunno. But he’s pretty much the best player on the field when he plays HS ball right? What is his competition like? I’d start there.
 
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Dunno. But he’s pretty much the best player on the field when he plays HS ball right? What is his competition like? I’d start there.

some of you see him and know he is the real deal - the whole world was recruiting him and he had a top 10 national rank - so it seems hard to imagine everyone is wrong. the 40 time just seems off to what everyone sees - almost seems to be an error. Jerry Rice did not post a fast 40, and was one of the greatest WR ever - but he was an exception. Look at our WRs = we have major speed in all of them and our fastest dude (former walk-on) is absolute lightning. Our TEs run 4.6-4.7
 
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Ever been to Indianapolis in December, jimjim??

He’s been there. He was there this past weekend for the 500. The relevant question is, have you ever had a rooting interest in a football game played in Indy in December?
 
Great high school athletes are the ones that tend to mature earlier than their classmates. What we want are those who will mature in two to three years, when they are Nittany Lions. Losing particular kids is no big deal. How did Hackenberger work out or that kid from Maryland (Williams, I believe). How about the McDonald guy that just got his degree. Great kids, wonderful athletes and all world in High School. Good but not great in College. On the other hand, Trace McSoreley was not that highly thought of as a high school qback and Saquon was not all world in high school. Those are just two.
Tomorrow the sun rises and there are no earthquakes in Pennsyvania or Ohio. Things are good and will get better.
 
Great high school athletes are the ones that tend to mature earlier than their classmates. What we want are those who will mature in two to three years, when they are Nittany Lions. Losing particular kids is no big deal. How did Hackenberger work out or that kid from Maryland (Williams, I believe). How about the McDonald guy that just got his degree. Great kids, wonderful athletes and all world in High School. Good but not great in College. On the other hand, Trace McSoreley was not that highly thought of as a high school qback and Saquon was not all world in high school. Those are just two.
Tomorrow the sun rises and there are no earthquakes in Pennsyvania or Ohio. Things are good and will get better.
Awesome stuff.
 
Check the latest APR scores and get back to me. Also, reading other teams boards is entertaining if nothing else. Don’t act like you haven’t.

Besides, everything I wrote was fact. Nothing of what you posted was in opposition to my statement. I was calling ESRC out for his idiotic commentary. At no point did I say I had any insight into either program. At no point did I put PSU down. It’s a great school.

Feel free to try another “rebuttal” because your first one was a whiff.
APR is a joke and no one cares about that nonsense. It's a made up number that is biased against PSU because of the crippling sanctions. The only number that matters is black graduation rates and nothing else. That is the one metric that demonstrates how one school cares about minorities getting a degree and the other doesn't. It separates football factories from academic first institutions like PSU. For years SuePa spent hundreds of hours teaching PSU players to read and write because she cared about education and the Grand Experiment. There is not another athletic program out there that would do that. Cordell Jones ain't come to play school. Never forget that
 
Look, the kid made a business decision. He will play sooner at OSU due to tougher competition at Penn State, the academic expectations are lower as are expectations about going to class. Penn State is not for everyone. Good luck to the young man

Sorry, man, but don't delude yourself.

A 29 on the ACT is the average for an Ohio State student.
A 28 on the ACT is the average for a Penn St. student.

https://www.prepscholar.com/act/s/colleges/Ohio-State-University-ACT-scores-GPA
https://www.prepscholar.com/sat/s/colleges/Penn-State-admission-requirements

And Ohio State is a more prestigious university than Penn St.
OSU #56 to PSU #59, here:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/compare?xwalk_id=204796&xwalk_id=214777


For World University rankings: Buckeyes #71 to Penn St's #81

https://www.timeshighereducation.co...th/100/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

This one has OSU at #89 and PSU at #95.
 
Check the latest APR scores and get back to me. Also, reading other teams boards is entertaining if nothing else. Don’t act like you haven’t.

Besides, everything I wrote was fact. Nothing of what you posted was in opposition to my statement. I was calling ESRC out for his idiotic commentary. At no point did I say I had any insight into either program. At no point did I put PSU down. It’s a great school.

Feel free to try another “rebuttal” because your first one was a whiff.

APR? A meaningless metric, easily manipulated by the schools, designed by the NCAA to spare the presidents of its member institutions from the embarrassment stemming from woeful record of educating their athletes. Butt that would be beyond your ability to comprehend, you dumb fvcking ass.
 
Sorry, man, but don't delude yourself.

A 29 on the ACT is the average for an Ohio State student.
A 28 on the ACT is the average for a Penn St. student.

https://www.prepscholar.com/act/s/colleges/Ohio-State-University-ACT-scores-GPA
https://www.prepscholar.com/sat/s/colleges/Penn-State-admission-requirements

And Ohio State is a more prestigious university than Penn St.
OSU #56 to PSU #59, here:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/compare?xwalk_id=204796&xwalk_id=214777


For World University rankings: Buckeyes #71 to Penn St's #81

https://www.timeshighereducation.co...th/100/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

This one has OSU at #89 and PSU at #95.

Yes, rankings compiled by publishers to sell magazines, you dumb shit.
 
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Sorry, man, but don't delude yourself.

A 29 on the ACT is the average for an Ohio State student.
A 28 on the ACT is the average for a Penn St. student.

https://www.prepscholar.com/act/s/colleges/Ohio-State-University-ACT-scores-GPA
https://www.prepscholar.com/sat/s/colleges/Penn-State-admission-requirements

And Ohio State is a more prestigious university than Penn St.
OSU #56 to PSU #59, here:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/compare?xwalk_id=204796&xwalk_id=214777


For World University rankings: Buckeyes #71 to Penn St's #81

https://www.timeshighereducation.co...th/100/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

This one has OSU at #89 and PSU at #95.
What does any of that have to do with the expectations of the football players? I notice you didn’t post the grad rates for football players and athletes...or how many easy grades are given to football players by fanboy professors.
 
Sorry, man, but don't delude yourself.

A 29 on the ACT is the average for an Ohio State student.
A 28 on the ACT is the average for a Penn St. student.

https://www.prepscholar.com/act/s/colleges/Ohio-State-University-ACT-scores-GPA
https://www.prepscholar.com/sat/s/colleges/Penn-State-admission-requirements

And Ohio State is a more prestigious university than Penn St.
OSU #56 to PSU #59, here:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/compare?xwalk_id=204796&xwalk_id=214777


For World University rankings: Buckeyes #71 to Penn St's #81

https://www.timeshighereducation.co...th/100/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

This one has OSU at #89 and PSU at #95.
You really think the academic expectations and rigors of a football player at OSU is the same as PSU? Do you really?
 
Committing to Tosu is a risky proposition these days. With the buckeye culture run amok as evidenced by all the victims of dr. strauss and all the people there who knew and did nothing but enable the abuser, Tosu probably won’t have a football program. Disgusting place.
 
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