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Junior Worlds

What a performance.....Zahid looks like a monster with all that added muscle, anybody think he goes 97, is that what the twitter handle implies? Give me Fix vs anyone, including Spencer Lee in free or folk.

Zahid probably born in 97. Zahid is a complete monster. I'm glad Bo got his title this year. Not that he can't beat Zahid in folk, but I'd be sweating it pretty good if he was a 2x runnerup and staring down Zahid or Moore the next two years.
 
Zahid probably born in 97. Zahid is a complete monster. I'm glad Bo got his title this year. Not that he can't beat Zahid in folk, but I'd be sweating it pretty good if he was a 2x runnerup and staring down Zahid or Moore the next two years.

Thanks Lemon. Wasn't thinking birth year, dam we're old:) it does make Hall's path easier with Zahid up, Wreck Hall will distance himself from a certain Husband and Father of 2
 
Speaking from ignorance somewhat because I don't know everyone's precise role here, but I think whatever credit is to be doled out organizationally is mitigated somewhat by the fact that these kids owe most of their wrestling growth to other coaches, many who work their corners in these matches. I'm not saying Jones or Jackson are doing a bad job because something's obviously going right, but I'm looking at Mark Hall and thinking he came to the party with (his hips and) enough skill to win it on his own, and Cael and Casey cleaned up the loose edges. Similar with Fix. Aren't Jones and Jackson coaching/managing what amounts to an all-star team of guys whose games were fairly formed before coming to camp? But again, I don't know what I'm really talking about but am happy to get educated.
The big change that Zeke initiated was to identify the best talent early and get them in training with the senior guys at a young age. You can look at Mark and he started coming to OTC camps very young. The article I posted yesterday from Track goes into that in a lot of detail.

That wasn't happening before Zeke, but guys like Lee, Hall, Zahid, Stevenson have made tremendous leaps because of that idea.
 
Just imagine if Spencer was healthy and could still make 50kg. Could have been a sweep!
 
Pre-chatter: Does anyone else find this fad of recruits getting photos edited to make the picture of them look like they're in their committed-school's singlet a little weird?
 
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Have we ever had such a good jr. team? Pretty incredible what this team has done!

In the entire last decade (2001 through 2010), the U.S. had three junior world finalists (Henry Cejudo in 2006, Bubba Jenkins in 2007, and Dom Bradley in 2010).

In the past 25 championships (going back to 1986, since they don't hold them every year), the six finalists this year is the best the U.S. has done.

The U.S. did have five finalists in 1998. That was the last time the event was held on U.S. soil, and there were 10 weight classes at that time instead of eight.

The U.S. has won two gold medals three times in the past 25 championships - 2016 (Spencer Lee and Mark Hall), 1998 (Stephen Abbas and Don Pritzlaff), and 1992 (Jeff McGuiness and Kerry McCoy). We have never won three in a year over the past 25 championships.

This team probably is already the best U.S. team in recent history. A team title or even just a pair of gold medals today would seal the deal.
 
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AZE beats Iran in a nail-biter...

EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?
TOOL TIME!
SURE IS! AND HERE'S THE STAR OF OUR SHOW... DATON "THE HAMMER" FIX!
 
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Fix gets a quick drag, goes for patented turn. RUS doesn't open. Fix gets eternity on top but no turn.
 
Fix gets a nice duck double. RUS STILL WON'T OPEN. Ref calls for caution+2 twice, to get white-paddled. Wow... Gets one trap-arm. 6-0
 
How was there no call on that? If you have to be warned that many times! C'mon!

Jackson in the background, "YEAH BOI, YEAH!" in his best Flava Flav voice.
Awesome.

Stream glitching hard, though.
 
That was great, real happy for Fix, he really put in the work. His fundamentals are so sound. Just dominated a guy who looks like a senior level wrestler.
 
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The big change that Zeke initiated was to identify the best talent early and get them in training with the senior guys at a young age. You can look at Mark and he started coming to OTC camps very young. The article I posted yesterday from Track goes into that in a lot of detail.

That wasn't happening before Zeke, but guys like Lee, Hall, Zahid, Stevenson have made tremendous leaps because of that idea.

100% agree. My whole point is that jackson is good at following orders and direction (colonel) than he is a general (having his own vision).

how you can say that the guy that just hugged daton and handed him the american flag gets zero credit is beyond me.

Edit: i dont get paid for my writing, so if that wasnt clear its on me. Im not a journalist. just a dude with a keyboard.
 
i love the mongolian guys hat....

I wonder if they get told at every UWW event to keep their clothes on......
 
The big change that Zeke initiated was to identify the best talent early and get them in training with the senior guys at a young age. You can look at Mark and he started coming to OTC camps very young. The article I posted yesterday from Track goes into that in a lot of detail.

That wasn't happening before Zeke, but guys like Lee, Hall, Zahid, Stevenson have made tremendous leaps because of that idea.

100% agree. My whole point is that jackson is good at following orders and direction (colonel) than he is a general (having his own vision).

how you can say that the guy that just hugged daton and handed him the american flag gets zero credit is beyond me.

Edit: i dont get paid for my writing, so if that wasnt clear its on me. Im not a journalist. just a dude with a keyboard.

Appreciate both your responses, I wasn't necessarily saying that I thought they deserved no credit, just that they couldn't possibly deserve all of it given the work so many of these kids have put in elsewhere. But obviously the idea to expose the cadets and juniors to the seniors has paid dividends. I didn't realize that was all Zeke.
 
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Need one of these girls in the figure-skating-looking-outfits to escort me to the mat, from now on.
 
Baev is ranked 16 on the senior side, I believe. Deakin was in over his head. Still, I don't think many had him picked to medal even so congrats on that silver.
 
Baev beat Kubanaliev(World Champ.) at Russian Nationals a few weeks back.

Maybe everyone looks small compared to Deakin, but crazy to think he was at 70KG. I know Russia has a killer down at 65, so maybe that had something to do with it.
 
In the entire last decade (2001 through 2010), the U.S. had three junior world finalists (Henry Cejudo in 2006, Bubba Jenkins in 2007, and Dom Bradley in 2010).

In the past 25 championships (going back to 1986, since they don't hold them every year), the six finalists this year is the best the U.S. has done.

The U.S. did have five finalists in 1998. That was the last time the event was held on U.S. soil, and there were 10 weight classes at that time instead of eight.

The U.S. has won two gold medals three times in the past 25 championships - 2016 (Spencer Lee and Mark Hall), 1998 (Stephen Abbas and Don Pritzlaff), and 1992 (Jeff McGuiness and Kerry McCoy). We have never won three in a year over the past 25 championships.

This team probably is already the best U.S. team in recent history. A team title or even just a pair of gold medals today would seal the deal.
Have to go back to 1984 to see a comparable USA Team...that's 33 years!! The USA crowned 7 champs that year (including Ken Chertow) of the 10 weight classes.
 
100% agree. My whole point is that jackson is good at following orders and direction (colonel) than he is a general (having his own vision).

how you can say that the guy that just hugged daton and handed him the american flag gets zero credit is beyond me.

Edit: i dont get paid for my writing, so if that wasnt clear its on me. Im not a journalist. just a dude with a keyboard.
No, it was clear. I just don't think Jackson gets any of the credit. He inherited the situation and the wrestlers this year, and he did nothing to develop them. He just started a month ago. Handing someone the flag after they win doesn't mean he had any part in the win.

If I was hired as PSU head coach 1 month before NCAAs next year, would the team still win the championship? Yes. Would Nolf, Zain, Bo still put up dominating performances? Yes. Would I deserve any credit for them doing that? No.
 
Have to go back to 1984 to see a comparable USA Team...that's 33 years!! The USA crowned 7 champs that year (including Ken Chertow) of the 10 weight classes.

I didn't go back that far because the 1984 tournament was held in the U.S., and it looks like the Soviet Union and Iran did not compete. Nearly all of the medalists were from the U.S., South Korea and West Germany.
 
Zahid coming out heavy with the hands. RUS looking for elbow passes. Zahid hits a half shot. RUS ends up in rear-standing and can't finish... WOW. RUS complains about fingers and ref caution+2's him. Jeepers. This might be corrupt.
 
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