Junior worlds

[tikk10]

Emily Shilson up mat B vs Batbaatar (Mongolia), 50kg gold medal match

• Shilson breaks Batbaatar down off a front headlock, gets behind for two. 2-0.
• Shilson again working with a Russian tie. Batbaatar with a shot but Shilson sprawls, gets behind, and goes gut x 3 or 4 for gold!

 

[zzs006]

Love watching Shilson wrestle as well. Such good attacks. Really great leg attacker and kills people from short offense and a Russian tie. Really great par terre offense also with a world class gut wrench. She is now a cadet and junior world champion. Very impressive

 

[AndEEss]

Emily Shilson just teched and pinned her way through worlds, and looks like she just got done walking her dog.

She and Sarah Hildebrandt could teach many of our men a thing or two about gut wrenches and leg laces, respectively.

 

[tikk10]

It seems like every shot these US girls take is high percentage, and their fundamentals are so sound they feel licensed to create. I know Terry Steiner can take some credit but the excellent coaching is clearly happening at all levels.

 

[nerfstate]

Emily Shilson just teched and pinned her way through worlds, and looks like she just got done walking her dog.

Emily did have a couple of (dominant) regular decisions in the early rounds. She's still one bad young lady....

 

[AndEEss]

Yeah, I don't know why I said that. I must have been looking at Amit Elor or Kylie Welker or Kennedy Blades' brackets.

 

[CropDuster507]

Ok, but imagine if our age group girls wrestled MORE FOLKSTYLE?!

lol

 

[tikk10]

This gold medal match between BLR and RUS at 59kg is something to see. Down 10-1, BLR came back with a lace to go ahead on criteria 10-10 at the break.

UPDATE: 22-14 RUS. Final 24-14. Match was nuts. Both wrestlers completely gassed.

 

[tikk10]

Amit Elor coming up now on B vs Petliakova (RUS), 68kg gold medal.

• Elor from a front headlock position breaks her down, goes behind, looking lace, gets 6 more. 8-0.
• Step out, 9-0.
• Another step out, but it's ruled grounded.
• There's the final step out, and it's 10-0, 1:51. Gold medal for Elor!
• She's now exerting more sweat running around with the US flag than she has in all four matches.

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Amit Elor vs Kennedy Blades. We need to see that.

 

[diggerpup]

How can Amit dominate so easily from her ties ? She rag dolls everyone.

I’ve never seen her shoot legs, but does she even have to shoot ? Her strength & BJJ leverage must be insane.

 

[AndEEss]

The difference in athleticism between Kylie Welker and everyone else in her weight class is insane.

 

[nerfstate]

How can Amit dominate so easily from her ties ? She rag dolls everyone.

I’ve never seen her shoot legs, but does she even have to shoot ? Her strength & BJJ leverage must be insane.

Why don't girls do Greco? She'd be a world champ in that too.

 

[tikk10]

How can Amit dominate so easily from her ties ? She rag dolls everyone.

I’ve never seen her shoot legs, but does she even have to shoot ? Her strength & BJJ leverage must be insane.

I've seen her shoot, but yeah, it's not often she bothers because she bulldozes women around the mat with her tie, doesn't have to risk anything by going under anyone. She's a tank.

 

[tikk10]

[moved from from wrong thread, thanks nerfstate!]

Kylie Welker up now vs Bipasha (IND) at 76kg, gold medal match.

• Welker quickly in on a leg, dances with it a bit looking to sweep it, finally does, 2-0. Refs discussing why it wasn't a four, and there it is, 4-0.
• Welker defending a single, gets behind for two plus two more on a lace and it's our third 10-0 tech of the day for a gold medal!

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Ok, but imagine if our age group girls wrestled MORE FOLKSTYLE?!

lol

Imagine if almost all the world’s wrestling hotbeds didn’t treat their women and girls like property?!

lol not so much

 

[Psalm 1 guy]

From Andrew Spey: "Amit Elor's been having a pretty decent summer. Cadet WTT 10-0, Pin, 10-0, Pin, Pin, Pin. Junior WTT 10-0, 10-0, Pin, 10-0, Pin, 10-0, Cadet Worlds 10-0, Pin, Pin, Junior Worlds 10-0, 11-0, ???"

And then 10-0 in the gold medal match! And to think she is wrestling Juniors at a Cadet age! Not too shabby

 

[nittinsc]

US women are the bad draw.

 

[nitlion6]

8 seed Alex Facundo?

It only works if Marinelli has the No 1. It will be tough to not seed Griffith number 1 this season.

 

[El-Jefe]

It only works if Marinelli has the No 1. It will be tough to not seed Griffith number 1 this season.

Easy solution: Cenzo registers at some Open and beats Griffith.

 

[GantryZ]

How can Amit dominate so easily from her ties ? She rag dolls everyone.

I’ve never seen her shoot legs, but does she even have to shoot ? Her strength & BJJ leverage must be insane.

It's quite amazing, thinking at some point she'll be scouted but nobody wrestles like her and nobody knows how to defend it.

 

[raslen007]

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Nice win but I do not like seeing anyone land that way. Glad the other wrestler is ok.

 

[diggerpup]

I've seen her shoot, but yeah, it's not often she bothers because she bulldozes women around the mat with her tie, doesn't have to risk anything by going under anyone. She's a tank.

I believe Amit is a purple belt in BJJ - at age 18.

She definitely uses that expertise in her ties & handfighting. What a mauler.

 

[NoVa Lion]

I believe Amit is a purple belt in BJJ - at age 18.

She definitely uses that expertise in her ties & handfighting. What a mauler.

Not even 18 yet as mentioned in her interview after winning gold that she would shortly be 18 and senior eligible.

 

[82bordeaux]

How can Amit dominate so easily from her ties ? She rag dolls everyone.

She has trained for years in @STAND with PRIDE 's living room.

 

[Dogwelder]

She has trained for years in @STAND with PRIDE 's living room.

She’s the reason Stand with Pride stands with pride. He has no choice but to have straight posture.

 

[82bordeaux]

She’s the reason Stand with Pride stands with pride. He has no choice but to have straight posture.

We're gonna need a bigger brace!

 

[NoVa Lion]

Emily Shilson just teched and pinned her way through worlds, and looks like she just got done walking her dog.

She and Sarah Hildebrandt could teach many of our men a thing or two about gut wrenches and leg laces, respectively.

Shilson still only looks like she is 15. In spite of that IMHO she wins Senior Worlds next year.

 

[CurtisLoew40]

Was talking to a whiskey alum today about Amos. Its said to me he is very humble a good kid and maybe we missed on.

We’ll yall had Beard who will be eligible almost as long as Amos will be. Plus there just wasn’t enough money being offered to him to really consider PSU. I’m sure if he could of gotten a full ride he’d been at penn state.

Any word on how he’s doing in Greco?

 

[CurtisLoew40]

Shilson still only looks like she is 15. In spite of that IMHO she wins Senior Worlds next year.

She’s a beast but at Yui Susaki‘s weight? That’d be a longgg shot. More weights at worlds tho so maybe they’ll miss each other.

 

[CurtisLoew40]

Add in the Blades' sisters, and Japan might ought to start being afraid....

Problem is they’re all good size. We dominate those weights already and by the looks of it will continue to. We need some smaller stud women on the come up.

 

[CurtisLoew40]

I believe Amit is a purple belt in BJJ - at age 18.

She definitely uses that expertise in her ties & handfighting. What a mauler.

Yet to see her pull guard with that expertise. Since when is bjj known known for its intense hand fighting and throws?

 

[js8793]

Emily did have a couple of (dominant) regular decisions in the early rounds. She's still one bad young lady....

I encourage everyone to check out her quarter against the Russian. She was in BIG trouble and found a way to make it happen. The Russian was very savvy with counters and slowed the match way down with an underhook and burying her head. Shilson gave up a takedown to go down 6-4 with a minute left and then hit 2 separate moves to score from bottom.

First one, she stepped over to put her opponent in a merkle position and then immediately went right into a peterson for a cheap 2. Opponent came back out on top for 1 to go back up 7-6 and looked to lock up a crotch lock from top. Shilson immediately turned in, reached to the far hip and hipped over for 2 (similar to a far ankle situation), right into a bottom leg turk for another two and held her on her back for the rest of the match.

This was maybe the savviest series of wrestling I've seen all tournament. Could not be more impressed with her mat iq. You don't see most senior level wrestlers with that kind of awareness.

 

[backdrft76]

We’ll yall had Beard who will be eligible almost as long as Amos will be. Plus there just wasn’t enough money being offered to him to really consider PSU. I’m sure if he could of gotten a full ride he’d been at penn state.

Any word on how he’s doing in Greco?

His Greco starts Saturday

 

[dunkej01]

 

[Psalm 1 guy]

I encourage everyone to check out her quarter against the Russian. She was in BIG trouble and found a way to make it happen. The Russian was very savvy with counters and slowed the match way down with an underhook and burying her head. Shilson gave up a takedown to go down 6-4 with a minute left and then hit 2 separate moves to score from bottom.

First one, she stepped over to put her opponent in a merkle position and then immediately went right into a peterson for a cheap 2. Opponent came back out on top for 1 to go back up 7-6 and looked to lock up a crotch lock from top. Shilson immediately turned in, reached to the far hip and hipped over for 2 (similar to a far ankle situation), right into a bottom leg turk for another two and held her on her back for the rest of the match.

This was maybe the savviest series of wrestling I've seen all tournament. Could not be more impressed with her mat iq. You don't see most senior level wrestlers with that kind of awareness.

js8793, thank you for mentioning that match. I watched it for the first time just now, and everything you said was spot on. And I can't believe that atrocious no-call on the pin. Aleksandrova was flat for a few seconds. I'm just glad Emily was able to overcome that no-call.

 

[a_mshaffer]

here is one for the FS fans... when are we going to start seeing the controversial defensive pin called when executing leg laces? That will go down well... Everyone once in awhile you'll see someone linger a little longer than they should during their roll through... I've never seen it called unless the opponent actually makes some kind of effort to cause the pin.. any of you?

 

[tikk10]

here is one for the FS fans... when are we going to start seeing the controversial defensive pin called when executing leg laces? That will go down well... Everyone once in awhile you'll see someone linger a little longer than they should during their roll through... I've never seen it called unless the opponent actually makes some kind of effort to cause the pin.. any of you?

Here's the relevant portion of the rule:

When the defensive wrestler is held by his opponent with his two shoulders against the mat for a sufficient time to allow the referee to observe the total control of the fall, the resulting hold is considered to be a fall.

I think that effectively rules out defensive pins. I've never seen one called and can easily imagine the armed Russian assault on the official's table if one was called against their guy.

 

[nerfstate]

here is one for the FS fans... when are we going to start seeing the controversial defensive pin called when executing leg laces? That will go down well... Everyone once in awhile you'll see someone linger a little longer than they should during their roll through... I've never seen it called unless the opponent actually makes some kind of effort to cause the pin.. any of you?

I don’t think we will ever see it, unless the ruleset starts drifting away from its current trajectory. Everything is about rewarding (or not punishing) aggressive scoring attempts.

 

[tikk10]

Cf., NCAA rule, which is

Art. 1. Fall. A fall occurs when any part of both shoulders or part of both scapulae of either wrestler is held in contact with the mat for one second. The one second count (one-thousand-one) shall be a silent count by the referee and shall start only after the referee is in position to observe that a fall is imminent.

On the one hand 'held' is used by both rulebooks, but the NCAA uses passive voice and applies it equally to both offensive and defensive wrestlers, which has led to the widely accepted interpretation that defensive pins are permitted. UWW awards pins only to the "offensive" wrestler actively "holding" the defensive wrestler. True, which wrestler is offensive and which defensive can shift abruptly in FS, but the guy on the leg lace is definitely still the offensive wrestler.