Just heard on Fox Sports radio that Stanford & Cal
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Well, anything goes in this era of college football. I hope both schools end up in either the B1G or ACC. I hope WSU and Or St end up in the Big 12.
Might help their recruiting…..a free trip to California every year!
Since the end of last week when it became evident the PAC XII was done, everything sped up. Schools scrambling for a conference to join. I would think if the ACC adds Stanford & Cal, that those schools not named Cemson, FSU and UNC will dig in their heels even further to try deter anyone from bolting. If the two are added the ACC might make a very strong effort to convince ND to become a full member. If ND joins, the ACC might be able to renegotiate their media deal to obtain an increase.
yep...the challenge isn't football and basketball which can be cost justified. The challenge becomes non-rev teams like softball and water polo, etc. How do you include two schools in NoCal?
For the current ACC teams that need the ACC to survive (BC Syracuse Wake Louisville etc) it's just that. Surviving is better than the alternative. For UNC and Clemson it doesn't make sense.
The B1G with the PAC XII additions will have to manage that issue now times four. There are gonna be some big hurdles to overcome with these schools being so far apart. I heard one journalist term these moves as "marriages of convenience " and he indicated you aren't hearing any effusive praise from university leaders. coaches, athletes, or fans. It is the new reality, but I'm empathetic toward the PAC XII fans, players, and coaches.
I wonder if there is any possibility of the B1G going back to divisions to help with travel schedules?
I don't think it's need for football or basketball but for Olympic sports I'm sure they could limit it.
Considering that all this is being done for football and possibly a bit for men's basketball, why can't they just have the conferences be for those sport and for non-rev sports have conferences consist of nearby schools? I realize there is zero chance that will happen but OTOH I also realize that in any sensible world it would have already happened.
I have to say, Stan and cal in the “Atlantic” coast conference makes me feel a lot better about the whole “big ten” thing.
If "Duh" is accurate then people wouldn't be commenting about "Ten" not including teams or it needs changed. Just like The Big Eight should have remained the Big Eight not Big XII. Pac Ten not Pac XII.
I think they change it to simply B1G for 2024 and beyond. It makes sense to step away from the original branding.
The money it's bringing it makes it clear the right decision was made.
In no way is "Big Ten" a bad brand/mark.
I think they'll always stick with the "Big Ten" unless something crazy happens.
B1G doesn't really mean much
Add two more teams to get to 20….. then call it Big 10 2.0
If it makes sense, then the powers that be surely won’t see it, won’t understand it , and will not do it. I think big two sadly stands a better chance.
They just won’t play many conference games, or as many, and have a conference tournament. They can go East once a season play a few games, have a few teams come to them, and play the conference tournament. Cal and Stanford don’t really have any in conference bus away games in the Pac either, except for one another.
Nothing says ATLANTIC Coast Conference more than Stanford and California. 😳
Perhaps Stanford and Cal are being eyed as replacements for Florida St and Clemson now that the ACC knows they intend to leave. The idea being that the ACC isn't pillaged and then collapsed like the PAC has been if 2 of their top schools depart for more money.
We'd still take ND if we added both of them. We'd take ND regardless.
Whenever the ACC GOR can be broken - I think most likely not until closer to 2030 - the ACC remnants (after the Big Ten/SEC make their adds) and these Bay Area schools and maybe a few other random ones would make a solid second tier power conference that is actually very good athletically. Reasonable close to the Big 12. Might even be able to grab some from the Big 12.
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Yeah that will make the FSU pres happy. "Hey you can't leave the crappy ACC so your football team makes less than half of a Big Ten team's revenue but guess what.......now your women's field hockey team can travel across the country every year to play Cal and Stanford and see beautiful SF. Oh and when we admit Cal and Stanford to make us feel good about our academics your revenue share will drop more. Happy now?"
someone had a good point in that the eastern teams would plan several events on the west coast so it is one trip. So, for example, the woman's field hockey team could plan Cal, then later, Stanford. But that is more difficult with two teams instead of four like the B1G has. I would imagine that the B1G will schedule most games with a cluster of western-most schools like NEB, OU, U-dub, UCLA and USC. I still wouldn't be shocked to get the Utes included at some point.
Yeah you can logistically handle it with two schools out west and pick them both off on a road trip but I just laugh at the poor sap who has to update the FSU pres on this latest news. "Sir would you like the bad news or the really bad news first?"
It will be more problematic for Cal and Stanford coming east. They'll have to make a road trip out of it. They will only have one nearby away game (Call vs Stanford or Stanford vs Cal). Other than that, all of their away games will be in the eastern time zone.
At least for the B1G teams, they'll have three pacific time games and one mountain time game (Nebraska). Not great but better than the ACC.
