And it is likely that any push by Notre Dame in this regard was likely to make sure that the PAC-12 was killed and gone and thus losing their auto-bid to the playoff, making it easier for the Irish to make it.
Just heard on Fox Sports radio that Stanford & Cal
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And it is likely that any push by Notre Dame in this regard was likely to make sure that the PAC-12 was killed and gone and thus losing their auto-bid to the playoff, making it easier for the Irish to make it.
I think the idea behind this is that these other schools fans aren't watching their team in mass quantities anyhow. If they, too, are watching the other games that's great. The fact that big matchups between ranked opponents draws so many viewers is the driving force.
Whether it is going to last is a great debate.
Plus they need the ACC to survive and not get picked apart to death like the PAC. ND needs the ACC to park its Olympic sports while keeping football independent.
If the ACC implodes, ND has nowhere to put their Olympic sports and would be forced to join a major conference giving up football independence.
Florida State, Clemson, UNC and NC State are against expansion...they all just want out. Hard to blame them.
No need to dilute what money they are tied to bringing in schools that add nothing but bigger expenses to the overall AD budget. Maybe they can offer a trade? Let us out, and we'll vote them in...
This is back on for maybe SMU, Cal and Stanford. ESPN's decided they have some value.
Two of the three expansion targets, Stanford, the bell-cow of the group, and Cal, are proposing to take a significantly reduced revenue distribution for multiple years, starting at about 30%. SMU is proposing to take no distribution for as many as seven years, something Yahoo Sports reported more than a week ago. Options range from adding all three, adding only Stanford and Cal, adding only SMU or adding none of them.
Two of the three expansion targets, Stanford, the bell-cow of the group, and Cal, are proposing to take a significantly reduced revenue distribution for multiple years, starting at about 30%. SMU is proposing to take no distribution for as many as seven years, something Yahoo Sports reported more than a week ago. Options range from adding all three, adding only Stanford and Cal, adding only SMU or adding none of them.
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ESPN isn't trying to add value because that doesn't do it. ESPN is trying to prevent an early exodus of the few ACC schools that do add value.
Probably all of them still would accept a B1G or SEC invite. So this amount of money doesn't change things at all in that area. Clemson isnt going to stay because an extra $72m is distributed, what is it, 15 ways now.
Depending on the methodology used for this additional distribution, it may be more than enough to tip the scales in a risk vs benefit analysis. The GOR is a formidable legal document. The risk of losing a GOR lawsuit is extreme.
Where have you heard a 3rd party is working between the Big Ten and FSU/ Clemson? I’m just curious. I think there’d be some pushback by the Big Ten in taking Clemson due to the academic side, (real or imagined). Plus, I just always had the impression that both FSU and Clemson really want to go to the SEC.
Can’t see Stanford and Cal slumming it in the Big 12. They’ve made fun of the ‘inferior truck stop conference’ so often I just can’t see they joining there and having to pal around with Texas Tech, BYU, Baylor, Iowa State, etc.
I don’t know. Evidently they were willing to take very limited revenue from the ACC just to stay in a Power conference, so these are desperate times. It would be fascinating if in the end all these schools make more money in other conferences than what the Pac 12 commissioner was able to get in his own media deal for the Pac 12 conference.
Yeah the PAC commish was incompetent, along with the PAC presidents.
I think Stanford and Cal are in a bad spot but they thought it was acceptable (if not really liked) to join UNC, UVA, Georgia Tech, Duke, etc. across the country rather than the closer Big 12. They’ve belittled the Big 12 so much through this process.
Last I heard the ACC still had 4 holdouts refusing to admit the PAC members because of travel issues especially for Olympic sports. So ESPN’s back up plan was to get Calford and WSU, Oregon St into the Big 12.
Problem is there’s a bunch of bad blood in the Big 12 now toward Stanford/ Cal. It’s just a mess.
It would be funny and super interesting to see liberal west coast and conservative middle America in the same conference! I am of the opinion that Stanford belongs in the B1G, but I guess that will not happen.
It would be weekly news of the Stanford band doing something stupid and offensive to the other team and how they would get treated in response.
.If we were talking about some high end academic endeavor then Stanford and Cal would be slumming it to be associated with the Big 12 but when it comes to football, which is what this is all about, it's the Big 12 that would be slumming it to be associated with Stanford and Cal. I think at this point Stanford and Cal would join the Big 12 in a second if they had a chance.
it still all seems strange to me when the most obvious option would be for the remaining PAC-12 to just “absorb” the MWC (or most of those teams) allowing the MEC to dissolve without exit fees. That would allow the new conference to retain the PAC status as a P5 conference including CFP auto bid and the PAC-12 basketball credits/revenue (and for whatever it is worth the higher value conference name). The biggest issue would be TV so the logical thing to do would be to negotiate with FOX and CBS (who own the rights for the MWC) to pick up the new league instead for 2024-25 and beyond, maybe committing to a few more years in return for a somewhat higher payout per team.
The ACC or Big 12 picking up Stanford or Cal just doesn’t seem to have much value for those conferences.
The ACC or Big 12 picking up Stanford or Cal just doesn’t seem to have much value for those conferences.
The new PAC4/MWC merged conference would hold very little tv value and the rest of cfb would not recognize it as a power conference.
