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Just saw Kirk Herbstreit and Desmond Howard's pre-game commentary. Are you kidding me?

Somewhat OT... not to totally disagree with "lurker", but because most of the actions taken by the BOT since the Sandusky scandal have obviously been intentional, I believe that a lack of testosterone is not the issue. It's a total lack of INTEGRITY!!! What absolutely baffles me is that so many supposedly upstanding people (our BOT) have lost their moral compass and not one of them has been willing to speak out against the injustice and the lies. Either they are all up to their collective asses in something extremely scandalous (and legally actionable) or certain power brokers are and are holding a very large hammer over everyone's head and will crush/ruin the first one that gets out of line. Whatever is being covered up must really be horrific for all these self-righteous appointed "protectors of the university" to sit on the sideline and allow PSU, Paterno et al to be publically and repeatedly maligned by ESPN and their minions, Herbie, Mushmouth, and others without so much as a peep in defense.

Gawd, I hate these bastards - both the BOT (minus the elected members - although they have been missing in action lately) and the media jackwagons who continually perpetuate the false narrative.

I feel better now!

PS Oh yeah... and I'm NOT moving on!!!
 
I absolutely refuse to listen to any asshat on that network....the only reason I ever turn it on is because of the games. They are losing people by the second....someone wrote on another thread that they are quickly turning into MTV....it's amazing how many scumbags that station employs. Seriously ask yourselves this question...what reporter on that site is worth a shit? probably can't name 3....
 
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More inclined to think he's not the victim but the abuser and he's overcompensating!
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I absolutely refuse to listen to any asshat on that network....the only reason I ever turn it on is because of the games. They are losing people by the second....someone wrote on another thread that they are quickly turning into MTV....it's amazing how many scumbags that station employs. Seriously ask yourselves this question...what reporter on that site is worth a shit? probably can't name 3....
He passed earlier this year. No, there is
nada.
 
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Let's take a quick snap shot of Howard and Herbstreit, AFTER they realized Penn State was going to once again be a player in the elite level of the sport:

Howard: Picked Iowa over PSU, picked Indiana over PSU, picked Wisconsin over PSU.

Herbstreit: Picked Iowa over PSU, picked Indiana over PSU, said MSU would come down to late in the 4th quarter in a 3 point game, and picked Wisconsin over PSU.


See how that works?
 
He passed earlier this year. No there is Nada.

John Butchigross is a nice guy and likes Penn State. John Anderson is a good guy and has nothing but respect for PSU. Todd Blackledge and Joe Tessitore in the booth.

That's about it. Melanie Collins is a good kid but doesn't work for ESPN. Lisa Salters loves PSU though, but doesn't cover college sports.
 
John Butchigross is a nice guy and likes Penn State. John Anderson is a good guy and has nothing but respect for PSU. Todd Blackledge and Joe Tessitore in the booth.

That's about it. Melanie Collins is a good kid but doesn't work for ESPN. Lisa Salters loves PSU though, but doesn't cover college sports.
Forgot Blackledge, seriously don't have a clue of the rest you mentioned. Any game being broadcast concerning PSU, I tune into Jones & Ham preshow and game.
 
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Forgot Blackledge, seriously don't have a clue of the test you mentioned. Any game being broadcast concerning PSU, I tune into Jones & Ham per and game show.

If you broke down Jack Ham's pregame analysis of the game, you would find he was dead on, 100% correct on the entire Wisconsin game plan and their personnel. He basically predicted what needed to happen for PSU to win. It was uncanny.
 
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There was no reason---NONE---for Howard to speak like that. It was nothing but pure emnity.

Hard to believe that some think that our administration or AD should allow that kind of talk to stand without some kind of push-back. It's lies, outright lies, vicious personal disgusting lies. And some people here think that it should be allowed to go uncontested?

Folks, it's not going away unless somebody from Penn State makes it go away. What Howard said was vile. Nothing short of vile.

Wonder why...or maybe he has...Todd Blackledge...one of their ESPN Colleagues...has not said anything to Howard or Kirk?
 
Is the Paterno family free to file suit against Disney, ESPN and the commentators personally for defamation or does the go away upon death.

You present formal legal action against these clowns and they shut their traps fast. And, I would start with the parent company Disney to get their in house counsel engaged. Hell maybe they agree to settle and also can Herbie & Howard in the process - A true win-win! Its Christmas time one can only hope.

Glad Fox Sports is getting involved with the Big Ten next year their pregame and broadcast of the championship game were a breath of fresh air! (Except for Wannstadt of course).
 
Great Post!

Your post reminded me of the John Grisham novel "The Firm". The more you think about it the more similarities come to the fore. Since we know who RUNS and CONTROLS the BoT (Governor, the PMA and by extension the PA GOP) I would not be shocked to find out that governor appointed trustees have a separate understanding among themselves of how things are done and what benefits can be expected. Let's face it, these guys are certainly not that altruistic. If you serve according to the mutual code you can expect a certain level of compensation through bus contacts and university contracts etc.etc.

Of course the only way we find this out is if someone chooses to break ranks or if Lubrano or Dem uncover something in their document search.
I think making this a party line issue is too simplistic. If it were simply a matter of bad PA GOP, why haven't the PA Dems made an issue of it? Wouldn't that pretty much assure Dems win every election for the foreseeable future? Unless of course, the Dems are involved just as deeply.

Let's not forget: Seth Williams- until recently a Dem. Wolf did nothing to help Casey, and in fact called for her to resign. Dambly, appointed to the BOT by Rendell. Both Ciavarella and Conahan (the Luzerne County judges convicted in the Kids for Cash scheme) are Democrats.

Let's face it, both parties in PA are ridiculously corrupt and don't mind the other side getting some goodies, because they know they are getting their own as well.
 
Yet, I read tweets from Onward State and comments from fans saying how much they want Gameday to go to PSU next weekend. Unbelievable.
 
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Great overhead photo ChiTownLion, showing the huge crowd in the stadium and student section, in the second half of the game, contrary to Herbstreit's comment.
 
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Yet, I read tweets from Onward State and comments from fans saying how much they want Gameday to go to PSU next weekend. Unbelievable.

The truth is we’re never gonna get an even break with the talking heads of the media. Nor with the pollsters. Nor with the officials in this horseshit conference. Anyone who hopes otherwise does not know history. Franklin needs to explain that to the team.

That way they’ll know that the whole world is rooting against them on October 21. This should be a big-time motivator.

But if they come out and play their A-game against Michigan, they will win nevertheless. Because our A-game is much better than Michigan's. It's not even close, in fact.

Meanwhile, NBC has slotted Notre Dame-USC directly against us that Saturday evening. So our game will NOT have the national spotlight. But who cares? The main thing is to beat Michigan. Everything else will take care of itself.
 
Meanwhile, NBC has slotted Notre Dame-USC directly against us that Saturday evening. So our game will NOT have the national spotlight. But who cares? The main thing is to beat Michigan. Everything else will take care of itself.

Iowa-PSU game went up against the MSU-ND game a couple of Saturday nights ago and we had about a 33% bigger audience.
 
...... This is not good-natured ribbing. This is straight-up hostility by a POS (Desmond Howard) who openly campaigned for the NCAA to give Penn State the death penalty and a guy (Kirk Herbstreit) who acts all nice and smiles to your face before putting a dagger in your back.

Lets run the table this year, win the B1G again and get into the playoffs. That is the best response to mushmouth and herby.
 
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