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KYPSW 2023-24

125 PSU Dec Lehigh
133 Nagao Dec Lehigh
141 Bartlett MD Lehigh
149 Van Ness Fall Lehigh
157 Haines MD Lehigh or Lehigh Dec other PSU
165 Messenbrink MD Lehigh
174 Starocci Fall Lehigh
184 Truax Dec Lehigh
197 Brooks MD Lehigh
285 Kerk Dec Lehigh

I think Robbie will find his mojo in front of the home crowd.
 
PSU vs Lehigh

125: Davis MD Stanich or
125: Steen DEC Stanich or
125: Stanich DEC Howard
133: Nagao DEC Any Lehigh
141: Bartlett MD Hines or
141: Kasak DEC Hines
149: Van Ness TF Repos
157: Haines MD Brignola or Brignola DEC any other PSU.
165: Mesenbrink TF Logan
174: Starocci Fall Lawrence
184: Truax DEC Rogers
197: Brooks MD Beard
HWT: Kerkvliet Fall Taylor
 
125 Howard dec Stanich (Leh)
OR Stanich (Leh) dec Steen
OR Davis (PSU) dec Stanich
133 Nagao (PSU) dec Crookham
OR Nagao (PSU) dec McGonagle
141 Bartlett (PSU) MD Hynes
149 Van Ness (PSU) Fall Repos
157 Haines (PSU) MD Brignola
OR Brignola (Leh) Dec PSU Other
165 Mesenbrink (PSU) TF Logan
174 Starocci (PSU) Fall Lawrence
184 Truax (PSU) Dec Rogers
197 Brooks (PSU) MD Beard
HWT Kerkvliet (PSU) TF Taylor
 
LEHIGH:

125: Davis or Howard dec OR Stanich dec Steen
133: Nagao dec any
141: Bartlett maj
149: Van Ness fall
157: Haines maj or Brignola dec other
165: Mesenbrink maj
174: Starocci tf
184: Truax tf
197: Brooks maj
285: Kerkvliet maj
 
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We Are!! vs Lehigh
125 Any PSU Dec Stanich
133 Nagao MD Crookham
141 Bartlett MD Hines
149 Van Ness Fall Repos
157 Haines TF Brignola or Other PSU Dec Brignola
165 Mesenbrink MD Logan
174 Starocci Fall Lawrence
184 Truax Fall Rogers
197 Brooks Dec Beard
285 Kerk MD Taylor
 
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Lehigh

125 Howard dec Stanich (Leh)
OR Stanich (Leh) dec Steen
OR Davis (PSU) dec Stanich
133 Nagao (PSU) dec Crookham
OR Nagao (PSU) dec McGonagle
141 Bartlett (PSU) MD Hynes
149 Van Ness (PSU) Fall Repos
157 Haines (PSU) MD Brignola
OR other PSU DEC Brignola
165 Mesenbrink (PSU) TF Logan
174 Starocci (PSU) Fall Lawrence
184 Truax (PSU) Dec Rogers
197 Brooks (PSU) MD Beard
HWT Kerkvliet (PSU) TF Taylor
 
Lehigh

125 Stanich DEC Howard
OR Stanich DEC Steen
OR Davis DEC Stanich

133 Crookham DEC Nagao
OR Nagao DEC McGonagle

141 Bartlett DEC Hynes
149 Van Ness TF Repos
157 Haines MD Brignola
165 Mesenbrink MD Logan
174 Starocci MD Lawrence
184 Truax MD Rogers
197 Brooks MD Beard
286 Kerkvliet MD Taylor
 
125 dec L
133 dec L
141 md psu
149 fall psu
157 md psu
165 fall psu
174 fall psu
184 fall psu
197 mdec psu
285 fall psu
 
Lehigh:

125 Davis or Howard Dec Stanich; Stanich Dec Steen
133 Nagao Dec any Lehigh
141 Bartlett MD
149 Van Ness Fall
157 Haines MD or Brignola Dec any other PSU
165 Messenbrink TF
174 Starocci Fall
184 Truax MD
197 Brooks MD
285 Kerkvliet MD
 
PSU vs Lehigh

125: Stanich DEC Any PSU
133: Nagao MAJ Any Lehigh
141: Bartlett DEC Hines
149: Van Ness FALL Repos
157: Haines MAJ Brignola; Other PSU DEC Brignola
165: Mesenbrink MAJ Logan
174: Starocci TF Lawrence
184: Truax DEC Rogers
197: Brooks MAJ Beard
HWT: Kerkvliet MAJ Taylor
 
Lehigh:

125- Stanich Dec Howard, MD Steen. Davis Dec Stanich
133- Nagao Dec Crookham, Crookham TF other PSU, other PSU Dec McGonagle
141- Bartlett Dec Hines, Hines MD other PSU
149- Van Ness Fall Repos, other PSU Dec Repos
157- Haines TFBrignola, Brignola Dec other PSU
165- Mesenbrink MD Logan, Logan Dec other PSU
174- Starocci TF Lawrence, Lawrence Dec other PSU
184- Truax dec Rogers, other PSU Dec Rogers
197- Brooks MDBeard, Beard Dec other PSU, Brooks Pin other Lehigh
285- Kerkvliet TF Taylor, Taylor Dec other PSU
 
Lehigh

125 Stanich DEC Howard
125 Stanich MD Steen
125 Davis DEC Stanich
133 Crookham DEC Nagao
133 Nagao DEC McGonagle
141 Bartlett MD Hynes
149 Van Ness FALL Repos
157 Haines MD Brignola
157 Brignola MD other psu
165 Mesenbrink TF Logan
174 Starocci TF Lawrence
184 Truax MD Rogers
197 Brooks MD Beard
286 Kerkvliet MD Taylor
 
PSU vs Lehigh



125: Davis DEC Stanich or Stanich DEC Howard or Steen.

133: Nagao DEC Crookham or Nagao DEC McGonical.

141: Bartlett DEC Hines.

149: Van Ness FALL Repos.

157: Haines MD Brignola or Brignola DEC any other PSU.

165: Mesenbrink MD Logan.

174: Starocci TF Lawrence.

184: Truax MD Rogers.

197: Brooks MD Beard.

HWT: Kerkvliet DEC Taylor.
 
LEHIGH

125 Any PSU Dec
133 Nagao Dec
141 Bartlett MD
149 Van Ness TF
157 Haines MD or Lehigh Dec other PSU
165 Messenbrink MD
174 Starocci Fall
184 Truax MD
197 Brooks MD
285 Kerk MD
 
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Lehigh

125 Lehigh dec
133 psu dec
141 psu dec
149 psu md
157 psu md
165 psu md
174 psu fall
184 psu md
197 Lehigh md
285 psu md
 
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PSU vs Lehigh

125: Davis MD Stanich or Howard or Steen DEC Stanich
133: Nagao DEC any
141: Bartlett DEC Hines
149: Van Ness FALL Repos
157: Haines MD Brignola or Brignola DEC any other PSU.
165: Mesenbrink TF Logan
174: Starocci TF Lawrence
184: Truax MD Rogers
197: Brooks MD Beard
HWT: Kerkvliet DEC Taylor
 
Lehigh

125 Any PSU Dec
133 Nagao Dec
141 Bartlett Dec
149 Van Ness TF
157 Haines MD or Brignola Dec any PSU
165 Messenbrink TF
174 Starocci Fall
184 Truax Dec
197 Brooks MD
HWT Kerkvliet MD
 
LEHIGH

125 Davis Dec Stanich
Or
Stanich Dec Howard or Steen
133 Nagao Dec Crookham, Nagao MD McGonagle
141 Bartlett Dec Hines
149 Van Ness Fall Repos
157 Haines MD Brignola
Brignola Dec other PSU
165 Messenbrink MD Logan
174 Starocci Fall Lawrence
184 Truax MD Rogers
197 Brooks MD Beard
285 Kerk TF Taylor
 
PSU vs Lehigh
125: Davis MD Stanich or other PSU DEC Stanich
133: Nagao DEC Any Lehigh
141: Bartlett DEC Hines
149: Van Ness Fall Repos
157: Haines MD Brignola or Brignola DEC any other PSU
165: Mesenbrink MD Logan
174: Starocci Fall Lawrence
184: Truax MD Rogers
197: Brooks MD Beard
HWT:Kerkvliet MD Taylor
 
PSU vs Lehigh

125: Davis MD Stanich or Stanich D Howard or Steen
133: Nagao D Any
141: Bartlett MD Hines or Kasak D Hines
149: Van Ness TF Repos
157: Haines MD Brignola or Brignola D Any
165: Mesenbrink TF Logan
174: Starocci Fall Lawrence
184: Truax DEC Rogers
197: Brooks MD Beard
HWT: Kerkvliet TF Taylor
 
Lehigh

125 Davis dec. Or stanich dec. Over Howard or Steven
133 Nagao dec. Over either
141 Bartlett Dec.
149 Van Ness fall
157 Haines maj dec
165 messenbrink maj dec
174 starocci fall
184 truax maj dec
197 Brooks maj dec
285 kerkvliet tech fall
 
pawrestlersintn said:
Where there are known potential issues such as this, as long as enough notice is given, we can pick for other PSU wrestlers. Up to you how many you want to select from. "Other" works for all other, or you can pick five individuals, if you'd like. And, if it ends up being a cluster, I might throw it out, anyway.
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I ALWAYS agree with you, so this is a first. In this case, if Haines does not go, I'd toss out 157. Over the years, though I'm sure there's an exception (can't remember it though), we've always eliminated a weight when this happens. Penn State has Haines in the line-up as the only listed wrestler, so imo that's what we go with. Keep it simple.

This may, if I'm reading the tea leaves right, be an unusual season, with wrestlers sitting more than usual, not always due to injury. Setting a precedent like this may have some unintended consequences with our fun little game, as I believe listed wrestlers won't go more than usual.
 
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I ALWAYS agree with you, so this is a first. In this case, if Haines does not go, I'd toss out 157. Over the years, though I'm sure there's an exception (can't remember it though), we've always eliminated a weight when this happens. Penn State has Haines in the line-up as the only listed wrestler, so imo that's what we go with. Keep it simple.

This may, if I'm reading the tea leaves right, be an unusual season, with wrestlers sitting more than usual, not always due to injury. Setting a precedent like this may have some unintended consequences with our fun little game, as I believe listed wrestlers won't go more than usual.
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I also agree with this, but really, I appreciate the effort put into this game, which is a really fun part of the season, so whatever the decision, I’m not going to fret about it.
 
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PSU vs Lehigh

125: Davis MD Stanich or other PSU DEC Stanich
133: Nagao DEC Crookham or MD Any other
141: Bartlett DEC
149: Van Ness Fall
157: Haines MD Brignola or Brignola DEC any other PSU
165: Mesenbrink MD
174: Starocci Fall
184: Truax MD
197: Brooks MD
HWT: Kerkvliet MD
 
Lehigh

125: Any PSU DEC
133: Nagao DEC Any Lehigh
141: Bartlett DEC Hines
149: Van Ness TF Repos
157: Haines MD Brignola or Brignola MD any other PSU.
165: Mesenbrink MD Logan
174: Starocci FALL Lawrence
184: Truax DEC Rogers
197: Brooks MD Beard
HWT: Kerkvliet MD Taylor
 
RoarLions1 said:
I ALWAYS agree with you, so this is a first. In this case, if Haines does not go, I'd toss out 157. Over the years, though I'm sure there's an exception (can't remember it though), we've always eliminated a weight when this happens. Penn State has Haines in the line-up as the only listed wrestler, so imo that's what we go with. Keep it simple.

This may, if I'm reading the tea leaves right, be an unusual season, with wrestlers sitting more than usual, not always due to injury. Setting a precedent like this may have some unintended consequences with our fun little game, as I believe listed wrestlers won't go more than usual.
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I think we went from what I'm trying to do with Haines for this match, to the "only guys who are listed" way. I'd have to go back through a bunch of threads to find examples, but I'm almost positive. That's why the verbiage in the first note at the bottom of the rules in Post 1 existed.

Maybe I added that after I took over, but there were instances where a wrestler got banged up in a Sunday match, or a weekend tournament, and the backup didn't make it into Match Notes, in which case a probable backup was listed for KYPSW.

We'll see how it goes, and maybe even remove the addendum, if it doesn't go well.

Edit: The reason I like to keep as many points as possible is to keep the point totals higher. That's why I even added the "two points for everyone for a unanimous pick" rule. It doesn't make a hill of beans worth of difference, but I love higher point totals.

Edit again: That addendum has been in place since at least 2017-18.
 
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POSSIBLE RULE CHANGE

I'm considering making choosing the correct winner three points, instead of two. Won't make the game any more exciting, but there'll be more points.

J/k, scoring will stay the same, but it will prevent me from having to call stalling for a few more years.
 
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Lehigh

125: Any PSU DEC
133: Nagao DEC Any Lehigh
141: Bartlett MD Hines
149: Van Ness TF Repos
157: Haines MD Brignola or Other PSU by DEC
165: Mesenbrink TF Logan
174: Starocci TF Lawrence
184: Truax DEC Rogers
197: Brooks MD Beard
HWT: Kerkvliet MD Taylor
 
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125 - Howard Dec or Lehigh Dec other PSU
133 -Crookham Dec or Nagao MD other
141 - Bartlett MD
149 - Van Ness MD
157 - Haines MD
165 - Mesenbrink Dec
174 - Starocci Fall
184 - Truax MD
197 - Brooks Dec
285 - Kerk TF
 
125: Davis MD Stanich or psu dec.
133: Nagao D Any
141: Bartlett MD Hines
149: Van Ness TF Repos
157: Haines MD Brignola or Psu dec any
165: Mesenbrink TF Logan
174: Starocci md Lawrence
184: Truax DEC Rogers
197: Brooks MD Beard
HWT: Kerkvliet fall Taylor
 
LEHIGH

125- Davis DEC Stanich / Steen DEC Stanich / Stanich DEC Howard
133- Nagao DEC any Lehigh
141- Bartlett DEC
149- Van Ness TF
157- Haines MD Brignola / Brignola MD any other PSU
165- Mesenbrink TF
174- Starocci FALL
184- Truax FALL
197- Brooks MD
285- Kerkvliet MD
 
Lehigh
125- PSU dec Stanich
133- Nagao dec
141- Bartlett dec
149- Van Ness fall
157- Haines MD
165- Messinbrink tf
174- Starocci fall
184- Truax dec
197- Brooks dec
Hvy- Kerk fall
 
125 Stanich (LEH) dec Howard (PSU)
OR Stanich (LEH) dec Steen (PSU)
OR Davis (PSU) dec Stanich (LEH)
133 Nagao (PSU) dec Crookham (LEH)
OR Nagao (PSU) dec McGonagle (LEH)
141 Bartlett (PSU) major Hynes (LEH)
149 Van Ness (PSU) fall Repos (LEH)
157 Haines (PSU) major Brignola (LEH)
OR Brignola (LEH) dec PSU Other
165 Mesenbrink (PSU) tech Logan (LEH)
174 Starocci (PSU) fall Lawrence (LEH)
184 Truax (PSU) major Rogers (LEH)
197 Brooks (PSU) major Beard (LEH)
HWT Kerkvliet (PSU) major Taylor (LEH)
 
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If I could weigh in on the current KYPSW controversy, I would point out that those of us who invested literally hundreds of hours in a dimly lit utility closet in the basement, hoping all the $$$ spent on subscriptions to FLO, Wrestlestat, Rokfin, MATSCOUTS and various other sites will give us the knowledge needed to one day say, "I was the on the podium for KYPSW". I know, I placed third last year and I can tell you, people look at you differently after you tell them that.

Back to 157. The problem is there are no posted alternative to Levi. It is difficult for us who have devote so much of our lives, in the hope we can one day where the KYPSW crown, to handicap all the possible match ups when Wrestlestat says Levi is our only '57 pounder. At years end, this single point could be the difference between triumph and soul crushing defeat. (See Iowa Wrestling, 2011-present)

Lastly, Philflyboy, I'm coming for you. I've put in the time in the off season. I've upgraded the Commadore 64 to handle the new AI technology I'm using this year. Allen is key to my understanding of the role practice plays in an athlete's performance. I shouldn't be talking about this. Sorry

To the KYPSW "braintrust" at the home office. Thank you for your support of this platform and the furtherment of one of this sport's most nugatory titles.
 
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Lehigh

125: Stanich DEC Howard or Steen, Davis DEC Stanich
133: Nagao DEC Any Lehigh
141: Bartlett DEC Hines
149: Van Ness FALL Repos
157: Haines MAJ Brignola
165: Mesenbrink MAJ Logan
174: Starocci FALL Lawrence
184: Truax FALL Rogers
197: Brooks FALL Beard
HWT: Kerkvliet MAJ Taylor
 
Lehigh
125. Davis Dec Stanich. Stanich Dec Howard and steen
133 Nagao Dec
141 Bartlett Dec
149 Van Ness Fall
157 Haines MD
165 Mesenbrink Dec
174 Starocci MD
184 Truax Dec
197 Brooks MD
285 Kerk MD
 
Lehigh
125 - Davis Dec Stanich or Stanich Dec Howard
133 - Nagao DEC Any Lehigh
141 - Bartlett MD Hines
149 - Van Ness Fall Repos
157 - Haines MD Brignola
165 - Mesenbrink TF Logan
174 - Starocci Fall Lawrence
184 - Truax MD Rogers
197 - Brooks MD Beard
Hvy - Kerkvliet MD Taylor
 
PENN STATE - LEHIGH
125 Howard or Davis DEC Stanich
Stanich DEC Steen
Seymour DEC Howard or Davis
Davis DEC Seymour
133 Crookham DEC Nagao
Nagao DEC McGonagle
141 Bartlett DEC Hines
149 Van Ness MD Repos
157 Haines MD Brignola
Brignola MD Pierce/Heard, DEC Lee
Barraclough DEC Brignola
165 Mesenbrink MD Logan
174 Starocci TF Lawrence
184 Truax MD Rogers
197 Brooks MD Beard
285 Kerkvliet MD Taylor
 
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