Last Night Was A Rare Occurrence
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Disagree on the grounding call. Barkley was in the vicinity if I remember correctly.
While the grounding call was close, Barkley was within the proximity of the throw and if I’m not mistaken McSorley was right at or slightly outside the tackle box; although the call from the official is that they too thought Barkley was close enough.
I expected a flag there but I wouldn’t go as far as calling it a bogus “non” call.
I expected a flag there but I wouldn’t go as far as calling it a bogus “non” call.
For it not to be grounding, the qb has to be outside the tackle box AND the throw has to go past the line of scrimmage. The ball did not pass the line of scrimmage so being outside the tackle box didn't matter.
The reason it wasn't grounding was the official's estimation that Barkley was "in the vicinity"
Michigan got the benefit of holding noncall on one of their db's a little later. We both had a pretty obvious non call go our way, so I'm not worried about it.
That is of no consequence given that the official thought Barkley was in the area.
We said that already. Wasn't grounding because the officials decided Barkley was the intended receiver. We can debate all day whether he was "close enough" or not, but outside the tackle box/throw crossed the line of scrimmage had nothing to do with why grounding wasn't called.
refs were actually a bit even. UM was holding on the OL and the DBs were grabbing our WRs the entire game. i think that is the UM style under Harbaugh on the theory that NO crew will call it ever play even if you do hold.
I thought it was a pretty good officiating overall, better than I expected
Yes. People need to realize the announcers are wrong and the announcers are not officials.
Barkley was cutting across the field and therefore not intentional grounding.
The officials did a great job.
Ldn
Exactly. It was Herbie practically begging for intentional grounding, looking at the replay, stating the ball didn't cross the line of scrimmage.....without acknowledging Barkley was coming across the middle.
Yes. This happens a lot and frankly the announcers are limited as well as people watching tv.
However they are wrong a lot. And they are not officials.
Ldn
Herbstreit was such an idiot last night. He kept gushing about how "poised" O'Korn was while UM was down by four touchdowns He was poised, but that was not exactly the main story at that moment.
I think Michigan got lucky not getting called for targeting when Winovich hit Trace late. He took two steps, led with the helmet and hit Trace square in the back. Getting called for just roughing the passer was a gift.
We MAY ( or may not) have gotten a break on the UMich chop-block call....the first blocker MIGHT have lost contact prior to the second blocker going in low.
AND
If O’Neill had been officiating the game you know the fumble we recovered would have been ruled an incompletion.
AND
If O’Neill had been officiating the game you know the fumble we recovered would have been ruled an incompletion.
Yeah. I was on the fence about Herbie. No more. He sucked last night. Was waiting for him to elevate O'Korn to Heisman contender. Seemed to be openly rooting for calls to go against Penn State.
