It can’t be anyone other than Bowen. He was OL coach at UMD and left for what was essentially a demotion just to coach at PSU with Franklin. He is a great recruiter and just finished calling the plays for our cotton bowl win where PSU rushed for 400 yards. Bowen is also the recruiting coordinator for the offense. If Bowen doesn’t get it he should quit. The question is who will be the TE coach.
Limegrover out.
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If he doesn't get it, he should quit.....love the dramatic flair some have.
He was/is the TE coach for recruiting Strange & Johnson. Friermuth, Kuntz ... I believe were before Bowen was TE Coach
I like the idea of moving Bowen to OL Coach and adding the additional title of "run game coordinator".
1. OL is stacked this year for recruiting. Trangwell, Rucci, Leigh.... we are looking very solid for 3-4 of the top OL in the country. Need a great recruiter to help bring those guys in. Bowen is an excellent recruiter. His move would help with those guys.
2. Bring in a hot-shot young TE Coach. Who is also a great recruiter.
1. OL is stacked this year for recruiting. Trangwell, Rucci, Leigh.... we are looking very solid for 3-4 of the top OL in the country. Need a great recruiter to help bring those guys in. Bowen is an excellent recruiter. His move would help with those guys.
2. Bring in a hot-shot young TE Coach. Who is also a great recruiter.
Fingers crossed, maybe this helps. Seems like there will be serious competition with Clemson for Rucci and ND for Tengwall.
I don’t think Limegrover was a particularly great recruiter.
I would imagine that though process is running through CJF's head. Seems like the simple path, but you never know if he goes to a senior guy to fix the OL too.
Number of coaches that stayed past their prime or never had a prime but stayed away even tho they were inept and/or related to head coach:
1936-2011- at least 18
But I’ve got this. I’ll tell our offensive lineman to block. That and a steady diet of lattes and scones, and all will be well.
Limegrover was not a great recruiter. CJF places a premium on recruitment. That was definitely part of the calculus. Bowen will bring in elite OL recruits if he's the position coach. Success on offense starts up front. Time to get dominant.
I don't buy that T. Smith is the problem at CB. Without knowing the coverage scheme it's hard to know why there are breakdowns. Could be scheme, could be the safeties missing an assignment, no pressure on QBs... the DL was unable to get pressure on QBs when they played good teams. The CBs we have now are better than what we had and we're recruiting better talent. I think Wilson will be a star. Just needs another year in the weight room.
For the Glory!
I don't buy that T. Smith is the problem at CB. Without knowing the coverage scheme it's hard to know why there are breakdowns. Could be scheme, could be the safeties missing an assignment, no pressure on QBs... the DL was unable to get pressure on QBs when they played good teams. The CBs we have now are better than what we had and we're recruiting better talent. I think Wilson will be a star. Just needs another year in the weight room.
For the Glory!
Are you sure about that? RR is making $750k as the head coach of ODU, KC was set to make 1.1 million for the same position at Minn that he accepted at PSU, and PSU probably offered him more than that (surly at least that amount). While he may not have been “fired” it surly looks like he was pushed into a new landing spot, or at the very least PSU wasn’t interesting in retaining his services.
Or he was looking to be a head coach and he got an opportunity where he felt he could make a name for himself. Some would look at a head coaching gig as a step up over a coordinator position regardless of pay. To act like him taking a head coaching position as justification that he was failing as a coordinator is just stupid.
My sense is that you have it backwards... maybe Coach Franklin was sending a clear message by not selecting him as Interim-OC (i.e., that he wasn't even being remotely considered for open OC position...). IOW, find a new home on your own... or face being canned... your choice.
ok, rahne got processed
Really? Rahne took a HC job - Franklin has no control over people offering one of his Assistants a HC job.
I don't envy the OLine coach in this offense's scheme. If the QB went under center every once in a while, it would be an easier job.
Apparently you don’t recognize hyperbole. Bowen wouldn’t quit, but he would be extremely disappointed and probably looking somewhere else to be an OLine coach. The guy appears to be the perfect replacement and recruits love him. Already coached OLine for a P5 team and played OLine for a P5 team. I’ll eat my mattress if he isn’t our OLine coach.
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He had the 67th offense in the country and clearly CJF isn’t happy with the offense. In 21 games against P5 competition his offenses scored under 20 points 6 times, under 30 14 times, and his replacement makes Double his salary more... Believe what you want...
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My guess is that limey was gone the moment we hired the OC from Minnesota. I am sure he was fired from Minnesota and his reputation wasn’t good. I don’t know the details but the parking in Minnesota wasnt friendly
Who said he got fired? Not me. Perhaps if you read more carefully you could get control of your anger issues?
The secondary play is clearly due to the defensive scheme rather than the individual player coaching. The laughably soft zone directive is coming from pry. And it’s probably the correct strategy if you don’t have the talent to play tighter and your front seven is the defensive strength.And yet Terry Smith survives.
Which positional group was worse during the second half of the season and in the bowl game?
The OL or the defensive secondary?
I dont know his reputation, looks like the HC had to fire somebody to save his own job....
Minnesota has fired offensive coordinator Matt Limegrover and passing game coordinator Jim Zebrowski after a 5-7 season, the school announced Sunday night.
Limegrover, who also served as the team's assistant head coach and offensive line coach, has called offensive plays for the Golden Gophers since 2011. He had worked alongside Minnesota head coach Tracy Claeys since 1999, as both were assistants under Jerry Kill at four different schools. Claeys took over as interim head coach when Kill retired for health reasons midseason and was named permanent head coach earlier this month.
Claeys addressed the dismissals in a statement issued by the university.
"Matt and Jim are both terrific people and coaches, but I have decided to make a change that will better fit my offensive philosophy, which is to have one coordinator calling the plays," Claeys said. "They have been great representatives for the university and always put our student-athletes first, and I thank them for their contributions to our program and wish them well in the future."
soft zone? What games do you watch? as often as not, they seem to be in some sort of man.
They get paid very well, and being let go is part of the coaching profession. I'm sure Limegrover (like Hand before him) will continue his career elsewhere and be very successful.
Probably this was decided at the time Ciarrocca was hired -- probably Ciarrocca and Franklin have someone they're ready to bring in but they waited until Dec. 31 to make the announcement.
Probably this was decided at the time Ciarrocca was hired -- probably Ciarrocca and Franklin have someone they're ready to bring in but they waited until Dec. 31 to make the announcement.
Is there any chance that Ciarrocca brings Callahan with him?
https://gophersports.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/brian-callahan/1922
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Rank speculation on your part, but hey that’s what lots of people do here. Maybe Rahne was more interested in a head coaching job.
I’m sure Franklin already has a plan in place.. must go through the formality of posting for the open position etc.
Limegrover is also over 50 ( yes?) so there are HR issues to deal with etc. but I can’t help to think that James already has his guy and plan mapped out..
Anyone who manages a staff does the same thing of course when announcing a firing or not renewing someone’s contract...you make sure you have “ who” you want all lined up before any personal changes unless of course it’s perhaps unexpected or do to “ cause”...
That's got to be part of this. Franklin not only got his new contract, he got salary money and support to rebuild the offensive staff. Will be interesting to see if they move Bowen over into a new role or they go out and get a proven OL guru.
Sure it’s speculation...after this firing today, and the increased salaries for staff that CJF asked for as part of his new contract, do you really think they couldn’t have retained RR? Do you think the offense was good under him? Coach appears to be doing what he has to to get the program to the next level, and I applaud that.
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I agree there is certainly a plan in place that the new OC is 100% backing. As far as HR issues, his contract wasnt renewed, so he may or may not be entitled to some severance, but he wasnt fired.
