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Match Thread for Indiana and Northwestern

So the extra matches obviously occurred before the dual or were they off on a second mat?

Strange that we would have a starter participate before the dual on a day when we are having a tri-meet. Even though Carter might have made quick work of the first match, he could have used those extra calories at the end there. I thought he was going to pull it out for sure.

Was there mention Carter will not be a go for NW? We will presumably start that dual down 0-6 as well and we may need him near 100%. NW is quite a bit better than Indiana.
 
125- Lee pins anyone cleared or not cleared 6-0
133- RBY better get his points early... DeSanto doesn't gas out. 9-0
141- JE is better in folkstyle imo. 12-0
149 and 157 are toss-ups.. But how can you not give those to Iowa right now?
18-0 halftime

165- Alex doesn't look 100% right now but the Bull won't lose to this Lee. 21-0
174. Kemmerer licking his chops now.. He has really filled out nicely at 174. 24-0
184- Brands has filled out some & will go 110% until it's over, but I just don't see a win here. 24-3
197-All the pressure is on Warner. Warner has wins over Beard in the past. Warner wins- 3-2
27-3
285- Big Cass wins a controlled dec With RT.
30-3

Maybe the Northwestern meet will change my mind. Maybe not!
 
125- Lee pins anyone cleared or not cleared 6-0
133- RBY better get his points early... DeSanto doesn't gas out. 9-0
141- JE is better in folkstyle imo. 12-0
149 and 157 are toss-ups.. But how can you not give those to Iowa right now?
18-0 halftime

165- Alex doesn't look 100% right now but the Bull won't lose to this Lee. 21-0
174. Kemmerer licking his chops now.. He has really filled out nicely at 174. 24-0
184- Brands has filled out some & will go 110% until it's over, but I just don't see a win here. 24-3
197-All the pressure is on Warner. Warner has wins over Beard in the past. Warner wins- 3-2
27-3
285- Big Cass wins a controlled dec With RT.
30-3

Maybe the Northwestern meet will change my mind. Maybe not!
Nick Lee is gonna work Eierman.
 
125- Lee pins anyone cleared or not cleared 6-0
133- RBY better get his points early... DeSanto doesn't gas out. 9-0
141- JE is better in folkstyle imo. 12-0
149 and 157 are toss-ups.. But how can you not give those to Iowa right now?
18-0 halftime

165- Alex doesn't look 100% right now but the Bull won't lose to this Lee. 21-0
174. Kemmerer licking his chops now.. He has really filled out nicely at 174. 24-0
184- Brands has filled out some & will go 110% until it's over, but I just don't see a win here. 24-3
197-All the pressure is on Warner. Warner has wins over Beard in the past. Warner wins- 3-2
27-3
285- Big Cass wins a controlled dec With RT.
30-3

Maybe the Northwestern meet will change my mind. Maybe not!
DeSanto may not gas out, but he’s been known to tap out
 
Lots of negatives here being discussed...I tend to be more positive -

1 - PSU was finally active and we got to watch!
2 - Nick Lee looked like Nick Lee
3 - Joe Lee had a solid debut
4 - Brady Berge is back on the mat and healthy
5 - Brooks is competing again after missing a few rokfin opportunities and he looked good
6 - Atta boy, Seth!
Good to see Aaron wrestling without the mummy'd-up knee, also.
 
Like how Eierman worked Lee the last time they wrestled in Folkstyle? I personally think it will be a battle to to end. Looking forward to it
Or did you mean the much more recent time that Nick Lee worked Eierman in freestyle?
 
Not sure, haven’t seen it with the 5 other guys from PA in your lineup. Maybe it’s a SE PA thing.
Not sure. I will let you guys sort it out. Fun fact, A lot of Nittany Lion Champs and AA's aren't even from PA. Can you believe that madness?
 
I know this has been said by others, but I’d rather see BB get horsed around by Yahya Thomas for half the match but actually try something, even if he gets bonused. I’d rather watch him lose 10-8 than Verkleeren losing 4-3.

Or, give us Bearclaw he lets it fly, too.
 
Even disregarding today’s performance, Iowa clearly has the stronger (one of the best in recent history) team. With both teams at full strength PSU cannot match the strong-at-every-weight line up of the Hawkeyes. But the pandemic is the wildcard this year and nothing is certain.
 
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Extra bouts v IU

174: Starocci 18-1 (TF;2:37) R. Deters
149: Luke Gardner fall J. Kervin (0:56)
165: Konner Kraeszig 9-0 maj. D. Gilcher
141: Beau Bartlett fall J. Moran (0:56)
149: Terrell Barraclough 8-0 maj. Kervin
174: Creighton Edsell 10-5 dec. Detar
165: Kraeszig 13-7 dec. Cokely

Doubt this is the number of bouts coach was hoping for.
 
Is this the time of year the team "trains through" and looks awful? I thought it was typically early January. Ah well, good to have PSU wrestling back
Yep...could be. I just told my wife (huge PSU wrestling fan) that PSU always has a two week struggle in January due to Cael‘s master (peak in March) plan
 
This kind of line is gratuitous BS. It is an opinion board.
Well, the posters who apparently didn't expect to any rust or conditioning issues were kidding themselves. But I fully understand anyone who gets frustrated and needs to vent after watching Verk.
 
So did Hall
I was thinking the exact same thing, Lorenzo. If I recall, Cenzo got thrown twice for 6-point moves in that loss. And we know that both Cenzo and Hall ended up winning titles that year! I'm not worried about Starocci, he'll learn from this and get even better.
 
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Extra bouts v IU

174: Starocci 18-1 (TF;2:37) R. Deters
149: Luke Gardner fall J. Kervin (0:56)
165: Konner Kraeszig 9-0 maj. D. Gilcher
141: Beau Bartlett fall J. Moran (0:56)
149: Terrell Barraclough 8-0 maj. Kervin
174: Creighton Edsell 10-5 dec. Detar
165: Kraeszig 13-7 dec. Cokely

Doubt this is the number of bouts coach was hoping for.
Too many or not enough Roar ? Not sure what you mean Sir. TIA
 
125- Lee pins anyone cleared or not cleared 6-0
133- RBY better get his points early... DeSanto doesn't gas out. 9-0
141- JE is better in folkstyle imo. 12-0
149 and 157 are toss-ups.. But how can you not give those to Iowa right now?
18-0 halftime

165- Alex doesn't look 100% right now but the Bull won't lose to this Lee. 21-0
174. Kemmerer licking his chops now.. He has really filled out nicely at 174. 24-0
184- Brands has filled out some & will go 110% until it's over, but I just don't see a win here. 24-3
197-All the pressure is on Warner. Warner has wins over Beard in the past. Warner wins- 3-2
27-3
285- Big Cass wins a controlled dec With RT.
30-3

Maybe the Northwestern meet will change my mind. Maybe not!
149 is not a toss up verk lost to the guy who took i believe 10th or 11th last year at big tens, Berge is looking just like verk, barely beating a kid who won't see the podium this year
Toss ups at 133, 141, 197, maybe 157
Psu favorites 184
Iowa favorites 125, 149, 165, 174, hwt
 
149 is not a toss up verk lost to the guy who took i believe 10th or 11th last year at big tens, Berge is looking just like verk, barely beating a kid who won't see the podium this year
Toss ups at 133, 141, 197, maybe 157
Psu favorites 184
Iowa favorites 125, 149, 165, 174, hwt
Rooks is pretty good actually. He spent time in the top 15 last year and qualified as a freshman. Wins over YahYa 2x, Purinton, Parriott, and Martin. Lost close to Verk at Big Tens. Gave Lugo a scare in their dual. One of IU's best guys.
 
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Well, the posters who apparently didn't expect to any rust or conditioning issues were kidding themselves. But I fully understand anyone who gets frustrated and needs to vent after watching Verk.
Personal opinion, I think Verk is a confident wrestler and is well conditioned to give himself a chance at the end of every match.
I understand why most get frustrated considering how offensive minded most of the team has been for quite a while .
Still, Verk is a pleasure to watch. JMO
 
Seems like things are going swimmingly to start the season.🤪🤐🙉🙈🙊

Had to work through match one but done now. Started a fire on this gorgeous MD Saturday in January.

Work done. Freezer of homemade ice cream made. Fire burning. 30°. Very cold beer. And soon to be wrestling.

#blessed
#eatitturk
 
My guess...Beau is still working his way up to 49. Just a hunch.

Not if he weighed in at 141 today. More likely that once in shape he simply isn't a 149 lbs guy right now, which means to me if he can beat Verk in a future wrestle off, he can put on 5 lbs of good weight.
 
Sometimes an early unexpected loss can be just what the doctor ordered for an elite athlete like Starrocci. It can clear the jitters and pressures of massive expectations and ignite a next-level fire within. My first thought when he lost his inaugural match today was "I feel sorry for the next guy he wrestles." I was assuming it would be the NW guy later today but it looks like Deters took that bullet.
 
Rooks is pretty good actually. He spent time in the top 15 last year and qualified as a freshman. Wins over YahYa 2x, Purinton, Parriott, and Martin. Lost close to Verk at Big Tens. Gave Lugo a scare in their dual. One of IU's best guys.
You listed of 4 extremely inconsistent wrestler, purinton being the best win. and lugo wasn't in any trouble during that match
 
You listed of 4 extremely inconsistent wrestler, purinton being the best win. and lugo wasn't in any trouble during that match
I was at the IU match and Rooks was on his ankles the whole match and Lugo faded a bit at the end. It was probably the worst Lugo looked in a great year imo.

Not sure what your point is. Mine is that Rooks has shown he can beat top 15 guys before and has twice beaten the guy who the poster I was responding to said was now a heavy favorite over Verk.
 
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Extra bouts v IU

174: Starocci 18-1 (TF;2:37) R. Deters
149: Luke Gardner fall J. Kervin (0:56)
165: Konner Kraeszig 9-0 maj. D. Gilcher
141: Beau Bartlett fall J. Moran (0:56)
149: Terrell Barraclough 8-0 maj. Kervin
174: Creighton Edsell 10-5 dec. Detar
165: Kraeszig 13-7 dec. Cokely

Doubt this is the number of bouts coach was hoping for.
Might there not be more during the ensuing duals?
 
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