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Can't use refs as an excuse that been established in this thread. Also why wouldn't I, what has PSU done against UofM that leads you to believe they'll dismantle Michigan? there is literally nothing pointing to it besides blind hope

I admire your optimism, I really do, and fine let's take the refs out of the equation. So let me ask you then, what is it that you see that points to a close game? I don't have blind hope, I'm just not seeing it.
 
I admire your optimism, I really do, and fine let's take the refs out of the equation. So let me ask you then, what is it that you see that points to a close game? I don't have blind hope, I'm just not seeing it.
Well I don't really see PSU as some infallable juggernaut, and Harbaugh never gets blown out (except for the 15 OSU game, and let's not act like PSU 17 team will be anywhere near that 15 OSU team) and I don't see PSU as a great team, Vegas agrees with me
 
Yes they agree PSU will not blow out Michigan, how many points am I getting?

It's YOU who said Michigan would take PSU to the woodshed, and cited history as if that has any relevance to this year.

Back up your ignorant statements or go away already.
 
Yea it wasn't as bad as last year but the game wasnt really close either, however when the gentleman I was responding to said it won't be close this year that's what I figured he meant
What game were you watching? It was only a 12 point win.
 
It's YOU who said Michigan would take PSU to the woodshed, and cited history as if that has any relevance to this year.

Back up your ignorant statements or go away already.
You said "I bet it won't" in regards to me saying it will be a close game. You're the one saying it'll be a blow out not me I misread and figured you were talking about UofM as they've beaten PSU fairly handily in the last couple contests. So how many points do I get?
 
Didn't know you guys were missing 6 starters on D, sounds made up

Wait so you can't blame officials around here? I guess I've seen the officials blamed for every PSU loss to both OSU and UofM for the last 25 years, I'm glad you guys have seen the error of your ways
All three starting LB's, one of our bests corners, and I believe a lineman. Then one of the guys who did start at LB for that game got thrown out in the first quarter on a piss poor targeting penalty. Then his replacement went out with a knee injury. I'd say that's more than a couple.
 
You said "I bet it won't" in regards to me saying it will be a close game. You're the one saying it'll be a blow out not me I misread and figured you were talking about UofM as they've beaten PSU fairly handily in the last couple contests. So how many points do I get?

You will get nothing and like it.

I'd take another beating from UM though to win the freaking conference, something your team hasn't done going on 14 seasons. Oh, and it's not "parody", it's "parity".

You aren't winning this year. Deal with it.

Bye.
 
All three starting LB's, one of our bests corners, and I believe a lineman. Then one of the guys who did start at LB for that game got thrown out in the first quarter on a piss poor targeting penalty. Then his replacement went out with a knee injury. I'd say that's more than a couple.
Ok 39 point swing because of 4 starters injuries?
 
Well I don't really see PSU as some infallable juggernaut, and Harbaugh never gets blown out (except for the 15 OSU game, and let's not act like PSU 17 team will be anywhere near that 15 OSU team) and I don't see PSU as a great team, Vegas agrees with me
You mean the team ranked in the top 10 preseason by everyone? You mean that PSU team?
 
I was watching the 2015 UofM vs PSU game. The one where Michigan was taking a knee in the red zone to end the game
So if a 12 point win is taking to the woodshed, then prepare to be taken to the woodshed this year. I think 12-14 sounds about right.
 
You will get nothing and like it.

I'd take another beating from UM though to win the freaking conference, something your team hasn't done going on 14 seasons. Oh, and it's not "parody", it's "parity".

You aren't winning this year. Deal with it.

Bye.
Wow your mad. Take care see you in October, it'll be a close one. I'd take a PSU loss to win the conference as well but for some reason Harbaugh can't lose to Franklin.
 
Ok 39 point swing because of 4 starters injuries?
Five starters plays the next two backups. How would Michigan have done against OSU without a single starting LB plus their next two and one of their best CB's? I'll bet OSU would have won by a ton.
 
Five starters plays the next two backups. How would Michigan have done against OSU without a single starting LB plus their next two and one of their best CB's? I'll bet OSU would have won by a ton.
Ok so a 39 point swing then? You still haven't answered
 
Wow your mad. Take care see you in October, it'll be a close one. I'd take a PSU loss to win the conference as well but for some reason Harbaugh can't lose to Franklin.
Two wins against a team coming off sanctions...that's a bit ridiculous to base a statement about one coach not being able to beat another. I guess you might as well hang up your season since Harbaugh can't beat Meyer.
 
Cool I didn't realize pre season rankings mean anything ( UofM is pre season top 20 everywhere after losing 17 starters )
Well you're basing your arguments on a team you don't even know anything about. All your guys graduated and you have no clue about the guys that will be playing. We know all of our returners because they all played last year. Man you're an idiot.
 
It's a shame that Michigan doesn't have its own website so this turd could have a place to converse...
 
So you played both OSU and Iowa earlier in the year and at home, so I was correct thanks. Surely your not suggesting playing a team at home right is as difficult as playing them on the road right?

We played Iowa the week before you! So what espxactly is down the stretch? The last game? We had already beaten Ohio State. Your last 6 games were about the same as our last six games. You were probably favored in all of those games to boot. So, blame your coach as opposed to coming over here making stupid statements. Don't you have friends to talk to or something?
 
Ok so a 39 point swing then? You still haven't answered
Yes, a 39 point swing. As you might know (not sure because you're not real bright) the ability of the defense to stop the other team helps your offense. Since PSU had so many defensive guys out they couldn't do much to stop UM. Had they been able to slow them down, they not only would have given up fewer points but they would have scored more. Thereby easily making an entirely different game (yes, 39 points).
 
Yes, a 39 point swing. As you might know (not sure because you're not real bright) the ability of the defense to stop the other team helps your offense. Since PSU had so many defensive guys out they couldn't do much to stop UM. Had they been able to slow them down, they not only would have given up fewer points but they would have scored more. Thereby easily making an entirely different game (yes, 39 points).
Ok, shaky but ok, so my follow up is do you think PSU would've won had they had those guys in the lineup instead of losing by 5 + touchdowns?
 
We played Iowa the week before you! So what espxactly is down the stretch? The last game? We had already beaten Ohio State. Your last 6 games were about the same as our last six games. You were probably favored in all of those games to boot. So, blame your coach as opposed to coming over here making stupid statements. Don't you have friends to talk to or something?
They weren't as you had both at home where as UofM had them on the road, is that fact somehow going over your head?
 
Was looking for Micah Parsons scuttle butt but saw this thread and opened it my mistake. Also looks like Parsons may have some off the field issues that probably exclude UofM from going after him hard (not that they really had a solid shot or anything)

You're delusional. Jimmy would process someone in a heartbeat if he thought he had a chance to get Micah Parsons.
 
Well you're basing your arguments on a team you don't even know anything about. All your guys graduated and you have no clue about the guys that will be playing. We know all of our returners because they all played last year. Man you're an idiot.
Plenty of the guys that will start played alot last year so let's not act like they're off the street. Hell UofM s dline went 9 deep I. The rotation last year with 5 guy returning, definitely not complete unknowns
 
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They weren't as you had both at home where as UofM had them on the road, is that fact somehow going over your head?

You lost on the road to Iowa, in a game that the smart people you love in Vegas probably had you favored to win by double digits. Then you had OSU dead to rights at the Shoe in a game that Vegas probably had as a pick em, you know the smart people you talk about. Not our problem that your screwball coach spit the bit up.

Then you had FSU in a game that the smarties had you favored in and you spit up the bit. AGAIN. I know, that was a game away from MI too. Not to mention that Jabrill was busy starting to drink water so he's the reason you lost.
 
You lost on the road to Iowa, in a game that the smart people you love in Vegas probably had you favored to win by double digits. Then you had OSU dead to rights at the Shoe in a game that Vegas probably had as a pick em, you know the smart people you talk about. Not our problem that your screwball coach spit the bit up.

Then you had FSU in a game that the smarties had you favored in and you spit up the bit. AGAIN. I know, that was a game away from MI too. Not to mention that Jabrill was busy starting to drink water so he's the reason you lost.
Well since I never made an excuse I'm not sure what you're getting at, pretty much said Michigan had a tougher schedule down the stretch which is true, the rest of what you said is pure non sense
 
Ok, shaky but ok, so my follow up is do you think PSU would've won had they had those guys in the lineup instead of losing by 5 + touchdowns?
At that pointin the season they would not have won, but they wouldn't have lost by five TD's either. Then again, if they would have played again even with the same guys, PSU wouldn't have lost by 39. Michigan was 39 points better on that day, but not in general. Just like when PSU beat OSU by 39 in 1994...had they played ten more times that year I doubt PSU would have beaten them by 39 in any of the remaining games. Sometimes things just go one team's way and a blow out occurs. At that point in the season, Michigan was a better team (not 39 points better, but better). At the end of the season I would say they were pretty even with a slight edge going to Penn State because they were clicking.
 
At that pointin the season they would not have won, but they wouldn't have lost by five TD's either. Then again, if they would have played again even with the same guys, PSU wouldn't have lost by 39. Michigan was 39 points better on that day, but not in general. Just like when PSU beat OSU by 39 in 1994...had they played ten more times that year I doubt PSU would have beaten them by 39 in any of the remaining games. Sometimes things just go one team's way and a blow out occurs. At that point in the season, Michigan was a better team (not 39 points better, but better). At the end of the season I would say they were pretty even with a slight edge going to Penn State because they were clicking.
Fair enough and I kinda of agree to and extent , thanks for a response not filled with insults
 
Ok 39 point swing because of 4 starters injuries?

What were you doing the evening of Dec 3rd 2016 and what was your 39 point victory team doing? I was watching PSU win the conference championship and pick apart a top ten defense. I imagine you and that team probably saw that game on tv. A lot of good your sept 39 point win did for you.
 
What were you doing the evening of Dec 3rd 2016 and what was your 39 point victory team doing? I was watching PSU win the conference championship and pick apart a top ten defense. I imagine you and that team probably saw that game on tv. A lot of good your sept 39 point win did for you.
Hey man just saying I wouldn't talk trash about a team that destroyed you in season by 39 thats all. It's been rehashed over and over throughout the thread. Never said don't be happy with a B1G title
 
Well since I never made an excuse I'm not sure what you're getting at, pretty much said Michigan had a tougher schedule down the stretch which is true, the rest of what you said is pure non sense[/QUOTE

Oh, I get it. Any road game you lose even when you're favored, you toss out. Your down the stretch argument is nonsense, both teams played a comparable schedule. Your team crapped the bed when favored, PSU met the challenge and then won the Big championship game as an underdog to boot.

You don't see anyone on here ever mention that PSU got beat at the wire against USC in what was basically a home game for USC. We got beat that's it.

Accept that you had the most talented experienced team in the Big last year, played 8 home games, and finished third in the division.

You don't even troll well. Hopefully, the mods accept my suggestion and process you like Jimmy does for his 3 stars. See you in October. You won't be back.
 
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