Northwestern, Arizona State, Princeton and Northern Iowa with 2 champs each ... oh wait, that other team from Iowa also had 2 champs.
Midlands Day 2
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Another reminder that it helps if you include final scores of matches during a discussion.
For those that didn't watch, here are the scores from the championship bouts:
125: Sebastian Rivera (NW) DEC Spencer Lee (IA), 7-3
133: Austin DeSanto (IA) MAJ Noah Gonser (Campbell), 15-5
141: Josh Alber (No. IA) DEC Max Murin (IA), 5-2
149: Matt Kolodzik (Princeton) DEC Max Thomsen (No. IA), 3-1
157: Ryan Deakin (NW) DEC Kaleb Young (IA), 6-2
165: Alex Marinelli (IA) DEC Evan Wick (Wisc.), 4-3
174: Zahid Valencia (ASU) MAJ Taylor Lujan (No. IA), 17-7
184: Drew Foster (No. IA) DEC Cash Wilcke (IA), 3-2
197: Pat Brucki (Princeton) MAJ Tanner Sloan (Unattached), 13-4
285: Tanner Hall (Unattached) DEC Conan Jennings (NW), 4-3
For those that didn't watch, here are the scores from the championship bouts:
125: Sebastian Rivera (NW) DEC Spencer Lee (IA), 7-3
133: Austin DeSanto (IA) MAJ Noah Gonser (Campbell), 15-5
141: Josh Alber (No. IA) DEC Max Murin (IA), 5-2
149: Matt Kolodzik (Princeton) DEC Max Thomsen (No. IA), 3-1
157: Ryan Deakin (NW) DEC Kaleb Young (IA), 6-2
165: Alex Marinelli (IA) DEC Evan Wick (Wisc.), 4-3
174: Zahid Valencia (ASU) MAJ Taylor Lujan (No. IA), 17-7
184: Drew Foster (No. IA) DEC Cash Wilcke (IA), 3-2
197: Pat Brucki (Princeton) MAJ Tanner Sloan (Unattached), 13-4
285: Tanner Hall (Unattached) DEC Conan Jennings (NW), 4-3
don't know about that. Bull was focused on ties in the 3rd and was stalling... tying up and preventing action as well as not initiating any.
"YOU SUCK"
for some reason I think those two words are gonna stick around for a while.
Oh Idk, perhaps because there's a bunch of folks celebrating on HR whenever PSU guys lose? And a whole lot of venom directed towards our coach and our program in general.
Thanks tikk, you said it a heckuva lot better than me.
Brands should have been thrown out. Bet that would send a message to him. I would never want my kid wrestling for that nut. Throw him out. Bet he thinks twice .
Yeah, some seem to find that incident (the YOU SUCK outburst) humorous, but it's a bad look for Iowa and Brands, IMO. The leader of any program should have more composure than that. One can argue and defend his athletes without being a flaming DB.
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It's a head coach behaving like a petulant child. No wonder they're falling lower and lower on the totem pole of wrestling. Iowa fans shouldn't tolerate it.
Not to mention that the 3 stall calls were perfectly legit. Marinelli had a great first period then just watched the clock for 2 periods. Anyone watching the match should have been expecting those calls given the inactivity.
Maybe the referee's dad will ask Brands to meet him in the parking lot.
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Don't understand?
HR had a thread titled The Enigma Goes Down when Gulibon lost.
They have threads for PSU guys that won, but they think lost-Bo pinned himself while decking Sammy.
I like the way Lee handled the loss, like a gentleman. My money is still on him in March.
To add to this, and echo what Tikk10 said above, I think your indictment of PSU fans misses the mark fairly widely here @jmadden1998. You've been around long enough to know lots of us are huge Spencer Lee fans and would be happy to see him be the next 4x'er (after Cenzo, of course). The little digs that are getting under your (too thin) skin at the moment seem to be directed at the unrealistic and sometime belligerent hawk fans on HR that frequently misprognosticate Iowa's chances, room strength, coaching strength, etc, etc, etc. HR's wounds are largely self-inflicted.
You mean since the first round of his earlier bout
today against Glory? Because that's when he was officially declared unbeatable, the second coming of Cael, and Spyker's alter ego.
Madden let’s be honest for a second that in sports you never want to see your rival win. At the same time i respect lee and I’m always looking for a good wrestling match and that was a good match that will have an even better ones in the future. This has the making of a great rivalary. Also a lot of people were just poking fun at HR. At the end of the day wrestling isn’t like college football. 1 loss doesn’t mean shit except in maybe the hodge rankings. It’s a long season that comes down to 3 days in march.
I hear Coe College is going to pay Larry to spend some time learning at State College. While Larry is in town, rumor is Spencer will be staying with his dad and helping his dad by studying with Cael, Cody, Casey and Jake in the PSU wrestling room. Spencer should be ready by March.
It is the HR ridiculous bitterness and silly and limited wrestling assessment skills that makes making fun so enjoyable.
Spencer is must see TV...outside of PSU guys, there’s nobody in the field that I want to watch more! What he did in the first period against Glory is kinda nuts...after that, he was just plain different. Perhaps adrenaline dump or something that he just couldn’t shake even in the finals, but he didn’t have his same stuff after that period.
That being said, Rivera looked insanely good on his feet tonight! Quick, well timed, and darn near perfectly executed finishes. I’d put my money on Lee in a rematch (against anyone really), but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rivera keep things interesting in future match ups.
That being said, Rivera looked insanely good on his feet tonight! Quick, well timed, and darn near perfectly executed finishes. I’d put my money on Lee in a rematch (against anyone really), but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rivera keep things interesting in future match ups.
Everybody will bet on Spencer next time around. However, both Glory and Rivera came to do battle with a plan to attack areas Spencer is vulnerable. There will need to be adjustments made by Spencer and the Hawk staff to take those vulnerabilities away. Spencer will be uncomfortable accepting the idea of hand fight for a stall call style.
Rivera is going to be tough for Spencer to adjust to. At least I think so.
I am not sure how you can think that that there are many on this board that celebrate when Lee loses. A Pa guy who is exciting to watch.....is always respectful and classy..and walks out to Pokémon. What is not to love? Add in that I could ride my bike to to watch Murin wrestle in HS. Just a short ride to see Kaleb Young at Punxsutawney …..and not much farther to see Lee and Kemerer. If you don't like Kemerer or Lee......the problem is you. And Marinelli is just a great story. I...and many others here...root for at least half your team unless they are wrestling PSU. So kindly lose the attitude about the vast majority of the BWI board. Peace
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I don't think you are handling this too bad. A few guys here just ribbing you a little bit.
Not sure where you live, but I'm in Cedar Rapids. Spencer Lee to the Hawkeye fans I know, is a hero. Whether intentional or not, he has become the savior of Iowa wrestling. I can't imagine the amount of pressure he's under.
That was a big deal around here and everywhere else.... you don't think so? Spencer has his own sticky on HR!
I'd still put money on him in March, and I really like watching him wrestle, but the greatest lightweight room in the country (we hear that a bunch) got knocked down a peg tonight.
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Is Iowa’s new tactic to get a lead in the first period then stall the last 2 periods?
Never seen it at a Penn State event but Cael did get launched from a freestyle event for the "chair incedent". These are alpha males in the ultimate alpha Male sport, things get heated. That said , Brands goes over the top , a lot. I generally find it amusing. He's a character.
For those with Flo subscription... interesting view of Lee upset from mat-side with NW coaches “mic’d” up. [some explicit language for those sensitive types 
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https://www.flowrestling.org/events/6180176-2018-midlands-championships/videos?limit=27&q=Brewer&playing=6304408
]https://www.flowrestling.org/events/6180176-2018-midlands-championships/videos?limit=27&q=Brewer&playing=6304408
Why can't I be happy Spencer Lee lost? Simply put ...I AM!
For one reason. It means the Hodge Race top 4 is likely:
1. Nolf or Nickal
3. Cenzo
4. Hall.
Pretty awesome!
For one reason. It means the Hodge Race top 4 is likely:
1. Nolf or Nickal
3. Cenzo
4. Hall.
Pretty awesome!
For those with Flo subscription... interesting view of Lee upset from mat-side with NW coaches “mic’d” up. [some explicit language for those sensitive types
https://www.flowrestling.org/events/6180176-2018-midlands-championships/videos?limit=27&q=Brewer&playing=6304408
The end is some grade A bulletin board material. Spencer will be out for blood in the dual.
Good post, but I wouldn’t open my curtains to watch Murin wrestle in my backyard, let alone ride a bike to see it.
Can you give a synopsis please?
Found this:
“After the awards ceremony, Lee deposited his second-place medal into a nearby garbage can underneath the Sears Centre. His teammates and coaches quickly retrieved it, but it was clear that Lee wanted absolutely nothing to do with it.”
https://amp.hawkcentral.com/amp/2446762002?__twitter_impression=true
Sounds like what Oliver did in National finals when he lost a heart breaker to Steiber.
Lee needs something else on his feet for when people decide to quit giving him the handle. Rivera is so much quicker than Lee it seems to me like Lee will continue to have problems in this match up. I remember when mcbono first lost to Delgado and this feels very much the same. I won't be at all surprised if Glory passes Lee by next year as well. Spencer Lee is an amazing wrestler. He has the best tilt I've ever seen and is strong as a bull, but he doesn't have much in the way of quickness and it isn't a reach to think a couple guys will figure out his tilt. Time will tell. 2 time champ 3x finalist 4 time AA. Not too shabby.
A month in bed with mono, he should've tried to make 141.
But that does explain why he went from unbeatable to average in hours.
I agree and believe that Spencer has become to dependent on his unstoppable tilt. Take that away and he is not as good as Rivera or Glory.
Well, now we know McDonough has been working out with him.
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