Say goodbye to college football as we knew it. I for one see this as about the worst thing that could happen to college athletics. Add to it the transfer portal and an expanded playoff and the greatest sport of them all has been ruined. Sad.
NCAA.....approves of paying players for the use of their
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Apparently one politician has already stated that he will introduce legislation that if an athlete does accept an endorsement for their likeness, that their scholarship will then be subject to income tax .... just heard it on the Mark Packer show on Sirius radio.
The NFL player unions are already circling.
These players will look for collective bargaining to negotiate their piece of the pie.
Team? School? Quaint old concepts.
It is now in the hands of lawyers.
The best thing that could happen to college football would be to allow/have the players unionize in some shape or form, but they're too stupid to realize it
Sean Clifford will be sponsored by the makers of Adderall.
KJ Hamler will pick up a sponsorship from a vibrator company, since he is the Human Joystick.
Antonio Shelton will get paid by Skoal.
Micah Parsons can promote a flip flop manufacturer.
Any other good matches?
KJ Hamler will pick up a sponsorship from a vibrator company, since he is the Human Joystick.
Antonio Shelton will get paid by Skoal.
Micah Parsons can promote a flip flop manufacturer.
Any other good matches?
Why should the scholarship be taxed? The money he makes from his likeness will already be taxed. I don’t get wha the big deal is. These are adults. How in the hell can an organization say they CAN’T make money off of their likenesses? What the hell ever happened to capitalists in this country.
The number of players that get legitimate endorsement deals is going to be relatively small. How many college football players is Nike going to want to pay. The issue is the booster with the car dealership can now give every recruit an “endorsement deal” and stick his picture on the wall
Real bright move, that one. Do that and the players will demand cash instead of a scholarship.
I have no idea. Just heard it reported on that show. Can’t recall the name of the particular politician
Because this is supposed to be amateur athletics, or did we forget about that concept?
The only thing “amateur” about college football is that the players make no money. The coaches, schools, apparel manufacturers, TV networks, etc. make hundreds of millions. The ones who are responsible for generating hundreds of millions in revenue get...a scholarship. There hasn’t been anything amateur about this business in probably a half a century.
Technically, no school makes hundreds of millions. In fact, most colleges don't break even with sports
No, but most schools make money at football. But instead of sharing some of that surplus with the football players who help generate it, they give it to golfers and tennis player who, of course, do so much to enrich the school.
And a scholarship is worth a lot....by the time you add in the money for tuition, room and board, apparel, stipends, extra meals, etc. etc...that’s a pretty damn high paying part time job. And the players don’t generate the revenue, the school does...do you think if Barkley would have gone to IUP, they suddenly would have been getting 100,000 fans at their game and people all over the country would have been buying IUP jerseys? Give me a break.
One thing the NCAA needs to do now is clean up the transfer rules. They need to require all transfers, with the exception of grads transfers, have to sit out a year of competition. If they do not do that, the portal is going to get really busy. We will start seeing a fan of school A realizing that his team really needs a receiver and can now legally buy a player from school B. All they have to do is pay the player to make appearances for fan A's business, school A does not even have to be involved.
FBS football isn’t a part time job. They work out year round with trainers and by themselves. They watch film by themselves as they have access to the facilities, arrange their own practices in the off season, etc.
If Penn State had IUP quality players for long enough do you think there would be 100,000 in the stands? Would people pay 200 dollars per ticket to watch IUP quality players and competition? If the quality of the athlete diminished that much viewership would drop significantly as well. It wouldn’t happen over night, but it would happen.
exactly, and therein lies the problem with the bagman coming in and paying players legally now. It will be great for the rich programs and not so much for the poor ones. Coaches will now have to recruit donors for sponsorships for the players.
But we’ll never have IUP quality players because we’re Penn State...exactly my point. It’s the school not the players.
And it is a part time job....and football is more part time than the rest of the sports with only one game a week and only traveling six times a year.
Wait, what? So I can use a player's likeness if I pay him but I can't use it if the reason for using it is his participation in athletics. So I probably can't use him/her in uniform and I'll need to also use a non-athlete student as well. Hmmm, there might be some opportunities for Instagram models so long as they are enrolled in a school. It doesn't have to be the same school as the athlete, does it? Fair, do you have Gambit U started yet? Lori Loughlin could have saved some money with your high tuituion/low admissions standards approach.
Most of the details of what the NCAA press release said are pretty vague. We have no idea how any of this will be implemented. It's also important to note that nothing goes into effect until 2021 (proposed, I suspect it will be delayed)
My guess is that the NCAA did this a preemptive measure. It will be interesting to see how the details shake out. I think there is probably a way that you COULD do this that wouldn't be horrible. But since it is the NCAA I have zero faith they will do that.
I think this isn't exactly what you are saying, but I don't really care what the level of athlete is, so long as the playing field is even. I'd truly be fine if there was a viable NFL minor league and college football was left to those who wanted to "play school" even if that mean it was IUP level talent. I'd still go to games; I'd still watch them on TV; I'd still buy merch.
There could be a structure put in place that would be relatively fair and not a complete poo show.
However, this being the NCAA, I'm not holding my breath.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I wish there was a minor league NFL too. Then the kids that had the talent and no interest in getting an education could skip the facade of the amateur “student athlete” and start working in their chosen field. That would leave college football the kids that maybe wanted to play professional football one day but first wanted an education or a fall back plan should pro ball not work out, or the kids who want to play collegiate football but don’t want to make a career of it - maybe too damaging on their bodies...whatever the reasoning. But don’t think for one minute that as a lot of the top tier talent went to the pros that it wouldn’t siphon off a lot of the revenue now generated by college football. I’m not talking about the also rans giving the XFL a try, I’m talking the blue chippers flocking to a minor NFL league. The college game would still exist and still be popular, but I bet TV viewership would decline. And the TV deals are where the money is.
You might be right about viewership. I honestly don't know, but I suspect it might not matter for a couple of reasons:
1) It is unlikely that the minor league NFL teams will garner much viewership. I'm thinking it will be essentially like the NBA D League (or G league or whatever it is called now), where you will get some minor TV coverage and some interest by NFL super fans, but they won't sell many tickets and there won't be a big TV market. So I don't think the minor league will "steal" viewers and $$ from CFB.
2) As with all sports, we are mostly cheering for laundry. I cheer for PSU not because I like individual players but because I support the school and will support the players who chose to go to school there. Maybe you get some fringe fans who were only tuning in to watch Saquon play, but I think 95% of fans will stay fans.
Again, there's no way to know until it happened. I'm sure money counters at the conference level and TV execs are worried about it. I'm not.
I think the fan base would remain strong if the top 10% of players went to a minor league. Fans come to places like PSU, Nebraska, & Michigan because that's their alma matter, they enjoy tailgating, etc. Also because a lot of college towns are a fair distance from major league sports.
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