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NCAA's - brackets, seeds and other discussions

In round 1 , how many PSU guys do you think bonus

In round 2 ,
how many PSU guys do you think bonus

I am going with
Round 1 ( 7 of 10 bonus )
Round 2 ( 5 of 10 bonus )
 
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Actually, he was a TD and ride-out from OT. But who am I to correct Todd Conner?
DeSanto was almost always a TD and rideout away from a SV opportunity against RBY, except when he was quitting because RBY kept cradling him. Despite some close scores DeSanto always appeared 3 steps and 10 points behind RBY. One match out of 4 or 5 has a close score. That is the one that has outlier written across but HR folks are delightfully hopeful. I like it when they get that way so close to reality's arrival.
 
From Todd Conner over at GIA:

"At Big Tens Caliendo placed second at 165 and really closed the gap with #1 seed and #1 ranked Mitchell Mesenbrink of Penn State with a 4-1 decision in the finals.

I believe everyone is predicting a Caliendo-Mesenbrink finals at 165. Calinedo is now a takedown away from being a national champion."
Glazier was also a takedown away from being a national champion. Then he got ragdolled by Brooks in the followup.
 
My spider sense is telling me McEnelly takes out Keckheisen. The learning curve for freshmen is steep but so too is their development when they are elite. The kid is the real deal no doubt.

I also think that McEnelly takes the luster off of Ferrari next year. He does look awful big to me so maybe 197 is in his future, but head to head, I am going McE.

I think Carter will be tested again by him, but he learned his feel, and never bet against Carter the second time around.
My philosophy this week has been not to underestimate the strength of youth. The tournament is a grind.
 
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In round 1 , how many PSU guys do you think bonus

In round 2 ,
how many PSU guys do you think bonus

I am going with
Round 1 ( 7 of 10 bonus )
Round 2 ( 5 of 10 bonus )
Per an earlier post looking matchups of guys psu could face in rounds 1-3 based on wrestling to seed 8 of the 12 previous head to head matchups were bonus. Obviously not necessarily predictive of the other 20 or so possible match combos, but a data point.
 
Well if he doesn't get past the first two, there will be a symphony of Negao/Ono talk from here until next fall.

I have him getting past both then falling to Byrd. The backside is tough where I have him beathing Frost then Noto, losing to Bailey then beating Serrano for 5th. That is a lot of work and if he loses to Noto he still has a shot at 7th, which sounds s little more realistic. I just can't seem to bring myself to pencil that in though being a March glass half full kind of guy

The kid is a bit of an enigma. 4x State champ, obviously very talented, but his mat sense and positioning, especially in scrambles, is all over the place. He gets lost in the motion. If he could master the 9th grade wrestling instruction of when in a scramble ' he who's head is highest wins most of the time' he would be much better. He inexplicably keeps his head low and rolls to his back too often. I think we all think he has top 4 potential, but in matches the wheels will fall off somewhere short of that goal. I think the collective would be no less surprised with a top 4 than with a 1-2 early exit.
133 is so full of landmines that I have a different result than you in almost every match. LOL. It's like 125 last year.

I have Davis losing to Brown then beating Bouzakis and losing to Van Dee. In the spot you had Davis, I have Brown facing McGonagle, who I have losing to Frost, and beating McGonagle and Orine, who I have beating Bouzakis then losing to Shawver in the 2nd Rd top side before beating Burwick, Noto, and Rini back side to get to that match. After beating Orine, I have Brown losing to Ayala on the back side, who I have losing to Bailey in the semis. My 133 AAs:

1 Byrd
2 Bailey
3 Knox
4 Ayala
5 Brown
6 Shawver
7 Van Dee
8 Orine

Ono is either going to happen or it isn't. I have no idea, but I am confident that it's either PSU or (more likely) just NLWC for Ono. I'm confident he won't go anywhere else. If Ono does wrestle for PSU, Davis will lose his spot regardless of where he finishes this year. Nagao, who knows? He'll have a chance to earn the spot next year if he stays at PSU, but there are no guarantees.

I really think Davis has been affected by the knee injury all season and it will come out in a couple weeks that it was actually pretty serious. In some of the matches he lost, he looked a little unstable and it looked like it may have contributed to his inability to defend leg attacks. He was better last year, and I think health is a part of it.
 
My spider sense is telling me McEnelly takes out Keckheisen. The learning curve for freshmen is steep but so too is their development when they are elite. The kid is the real deal no doubt.

I also think that McEnelly takes the luster off of Ferrari next year. He does look awful big to me so maybe 197 is in his future, but head to head, I am going McE.

I think Carter will be tested again by him, but he learned his feel, and never bet against Carter the second time around.
I agree with this. McEnelly is extremely dangerous, definitely the biggest threat to Starocci. His season this year reminds me of Starocci's RS freshman year where it took until the NCAA finals for him to figure out Kemmerer, but in the end, he did, and looked like a sure fire multiple time champ in doing so. He's been like a superhero discovering the depth of his powers throughout this season, and he leveled up and discovered a new power when he took Starocci down at the B1Gs.
 
So did anyone else catch Caels interview on the NCAA s lol. He said we keep detailed records on every practice we ever had from day one wtf is that about. Paying attention to detail much. What other coaching staff does that I wander
 
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So did anyone else catch Caels interview on the NCAA s lol. He said we keep detailed records on every practice we ever had from day one wtf is that about. Paying attention to detail much. What other coaching staff does that I wander
Sounds like Jim law, the vintner of linden vineyards. It’s worked for him too.
 
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Anyone know of a way to set up notifications for mat assignments on individuals? I thought flo had it in prior years but don’t recall seeing it last year.
 
I just signed up for EPSN+ to watch the upcoming wrestling festivities. All seems fine, except when I searched for the NCAA wrestling championships schedule, etc., they are showing last year's schedule, and info. Should I be concerned?

I'm going to now log onto ESPN+ on my TV and see if I can view any live events. After I got burned for the Big10 tourney on B10+ I need to confirm ahead of time I can watch.
 
I just signed up for EPSN+ to watch the upcoming wrestling festivities. All seems fine, except when I searched for the NCAA wrestling championships schedule, etc., they are showing last year's schedule, and info. Should I be concerned?

I'm going to now log onto ESPN+ on my TV and see if I can view any live events. After I got burned for the Big10 tourney on B10+ I need to confirm ahead of time I can watch.
Can you see this? Mat 1, session 1: https://www.espn.com/espnplus/player/_/id/72be13b0-c374-4802-afdb-28b57e7630dd
 
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I'm wondering if the coaches themselves actually put together a rankings list and submit it to the committee. I would bet coaches are typically far too busy to be bothered with this task, and it's almost certainly handed off to an intern, volunteer assistant, or team manager. @smalls103, any insight here?
a ton of coaches rely on other people to do them or help them. three coaches (all assistants) reached out for help. one of them i sat down with and basically did the entire top 12.

it's a dumb system and assignment. the last ones were due within like 2 days of conferences being over. maybe 1 day.
 
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Not feeling a mid-AA @133. BD went 4-2 at B1Gs for a 4th place finish. At Nationals, only 4 of the top 8 seeds are from the B1G. The math suggests that it is 50/50 whether Braeden makes it past the Blood Round imho. He won B1Gs last year and pretty much flopped at Nationals, so going 4-2 at B1Gs this year.....
I think you need a Braeden Davis shirt for Nationals.
 
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I agree with this. McEnelly is extremely dangerous, definitely the biggest threat to Starocci. His season this year reminds me of Starocci's RS freshman year where it took until the NCAA finals for him to figure out Kemmerer, but in the end, he did, and looked like a sure fire multiple time champ in doing so. He's been like a superhero discovering the depth of his powers throughout this season, and he leveled up and discovered a new power when he took Starocci down at the B1Gs.
I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment of this weekend at 184.

1. McEnelly is really good, but Keckeisen is on a different level. Keck is the biggest threat to Carter.
2. I don't think McEnelly is figuring out Carter, Carter figures other wrestlers out. If they wrestle again, it will be a 3-5 point win for Starocci.
3. Keckeisen could game plan Carter. You have to know it has been 4 months of training to beat one guy. It is going to be a war.
 
Someone asked about the "positioning", or mat assignment of PSU wrestlers at NCAA's, but I cannot find the post. The response someone gave was accurate, i.e. there are no mat assignments.

However, if seeds (and history!) are an indication, one should see most of the Penn State wrestlers on the middle four mats (still an 8=mat configuration) on Friday morning (Session 3) for the quarters, AND the middle 2 mats (6-mat or dog-bone configuration) on Friday evening for the semis.
 
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I think you need Braeden Davis shirt for Nationals.
Not trying to rag on him - seems like a very hard worker. Just being honest regarding my opinion - I think he has an up-hill battle to AA at all, let alone a mid-level AA such as 4th or 5th (4th would be a huge feat given that you'd not just have to make it past the blood-round, but he'd have to make it all the way to the Consi-Bracket Finals.).

I'm not saying he couldn't prove my opinion completely wrong (I hope he does!), but he'd have to have a Tournament like he hasn't had since last year's BiGs.
 
Yea, I think Carter wrestling mcenelly previously helps Carter more.

Yep. One thing he knows is McElleney's favorite takedown... Notice how he got that early, but wasn't able to get another takedown for the rest of the match? Not a coincidence...., I'd be surprised if he gets one if they re-match.
 
Could?

Though maybe he hires Kilgore for his game planning.
That verbiage is confusing on my part. What I was trying to say was he could wrestle a focused and stragegic match versus the offensive juggernaut he usually wrestles like. But I guess he tried that in the All-Star Classic. Maybe Parker and Ben's strategy will be to let it fly. Who knows what they're thinking? But he is probably one of the top five or six talents in college wrestling.
 
Keck and McN would both be 195 by Sat night. Im rootin for McN in semis.
Keck wont make the same mistake McN did to lose to CS.
I am VERY concerned about Keck in finals.
The Keckeisen vs McEnelly semifinal, assuming it happens, will be amazing. Slight edge to Kecheisen imo in this seasoned veteran vs dynamic talented upstart bout. I wouldn't bet the farm though. Just glad Starocci is on the other side of the bracket. Whomever wins this weight class will have earned it. LAST BOUT IN THE FINALS if Starocci faces either guy?
 
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So did anyone else catch Caels interview on the NCAA s lol. He said we keep detailed records on every practice we ever had from day one wtf is that about. Paying attention to detail much. What other coaching staff does that I wander
The Brands keep detailed notes as well.
 
So did anyone else catch Caels interview on the NCAA s lol. He said we keep detailed records on every practice we ever had from day one wtf is that about. Paying attention to detail much. What other coaching staff does that I wander
Haven't you heard? Cael has a 3" binder. To clarify, he starts a new one, every few months.
 
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What were the fewest #1 seeds to win the NC and what year might it have been?

I ask this because this year has the potential to challenge the record. The way I see it 165 and 285 are the only weights with a heavy favorite. All the others have 3 or more nearly even contenders.

125 - 5 or 6 legit candidates
133 - same
141 - Beau, Mendez, Alirez, and Hardy
149 - Hanson, SVN, Lovett ... maybe Webster
157 - Kasak, Meyer ... maybe Cannon or Taylor
165 - Mitch ... longshot Caliendo
174 - Levi, O'Toole, Hamiti
184 - Star, Keckeisen, McEnelly
197 - Barr, Cardenas, Buchanon, AJ
285 - Steveson ... Greg with a fighter's chance
 
What were the fewest #1 seeds to win the NC and what year might it have been?

I ask this because this year has the potential to challenge the record. The way I see it 165 and 285 are the only weights with a heavy favorite. All the others have 3 or more nearly even contenders.

125 - 5 or 6 legit candidates
133 - same
141 - Beau, Mendez, Alirez, and Hardy
149 - Hanson, SVN, Lovett ... maybe Webster
157 - Kasak, Meyer ... maybe Cannon or Taylor
165 - Mitch ... longshot Caliendo
174 - Levi, O'Toole, Hamiti
184 - Star, Keckeisen, McEnelly
197 - Barr, Cardenas, Buchanon, AJ
285 - Steveson ... Greg with a fighter's chance
ChatGPT says this. I would love some confirmation if it's accurate...

"The fewest #1 seeds to win the NCAA Wrestling Tournament in a single year is 3. This occurred in 2000, when only three #1 seeds emerged as champions, despite there being 10 weight classes."
 
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ChatGPT says this. I would love some confirmation if it's accurate...

"The fewest #1 seeds to win the NCAA Wrestling Tournament in a single year is 3. This occurred in 2000, when only three #1 seeds emerged as champions, despite there being 10 weight classes."
Aaaaand, it's wrong. I think there were five in 2000.
 
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