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Need to ban Gameday from PSU campus

I get everyones point...just think as time goes by...bringing up Sandusky by any of these reporters is just old news...they could do it this year because we were back in the spotlight as a top ranked team for the first time since the Sandusky mess...and "hopefully" we will be back there again...bringing up anything Sandusky next year...will be just old news that is less and less relevant...especially as time goes by...my .02 anyway..
Are you kin to the Romulan woman?
 
I totally agree. They would bring no POSITIVE buzz to Penn State. They would spend the entire program talking down Penn State and referencing the Sandusky stuff. Heck, watched the B1G Championship on Fox Saturday Night and the Fox team did not say the word "Sandusky" once in almost 5 hours of coverage. Fox started the show at 7pm, and the post game drug out past midnight. Fox did not say "Sandusky" once. Yet deuche-bags like Herbstriet and Howard want to talk about it at length in reference to Penn State a few days after the B1G Title. .... Why would we open the doors to Penn State for these guys ???
After their coverage from Indy, I'm not sure that's really an issue.

How can you 'showcase your brand' when they spend most of the programming talking down your brand and your fans, calling you 'holier than thou' (while referencing Catholics vs Convicts as proof- WTH???), and repeatedly referencing Sandusky. That doesn't help your brand at all. Just the opposite.

It would be better for them to be in Austin, Tallahassee, or anywhere else talking about other things. The brand is enhanced when people actually watch the white out game and Penn St plays well. ;)
What were some of the things they said and who said them--missed the whole thing--just had Fox on? That's incredible.
 
If Gameday wants to come, PSU (through the A.D. probably) should demand time for a spokesperson, a few minutes to debunk some of the common misconceptions about the scandal, including those that have come from ESPN itself. If they won't agree to that, no appearance.
Wow. That's not a good idea at all.
 
You, sir, are an embarrassment to the State of Florida, let alone Penn State University! Go turn in your "man" card and join Erickson in avoidance of ALL THINGS PENN STATE!

I have a new idea for you nutjobs to.discuss. What if PSU refuses to play in the Rose Bowl
unless Ziegler or Lubrano gets to speak about the scandal during halftime instead of having
the bands perform?
 
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I have a new idea for you nutjobs to.discuss. What if PSU refuses to play in the Rose Bowl
unless Ziegler or Lubrano gets to speak about the scandal during halftime instead of having
the bands perform?
So, in your view, PREGAME ACTIVITIES on PSU's campus are the same as The Rose Bowl. You did note that we would refuse to play in the Rose Bowl under your comparison, but nobody said anything about refusing to play in any game where Gameday proposed to have their show, did they?

1. What is your definition of "nutjob?"

2. How and why does it harm you if we discuss on this message board the idea of showing ESPN our displeasure by telling it we do not want its fatuous liars disgracing our campus? Isn't this a voluntary endeavor, in which you can simply skip over any discussion you think is beneath your level of wisdom?

3.What is your definition of nutjob again?
 
If you think picking a public fight with espn is a good idea , you're a nut job.
 
If you think picking a public fight with espn is a good idea , you're a nut job.

PSU football will be here long after ESPN is not a factor.

Some people are just "play it safe" types. I get it that you are one of them. The world needs followers, too.

You know, this corporation, a subsidiary of Disney, repeatedly and unfairly attacked our University and specifically its football team which you claim to admire. I believe the thing to do when you are attacked is defend yourself. Sometimes going on the offensive is required. Now I set forth above what I thought would be more effective of protest than an outright ban on Gameday.

We did not pick a fight with ESPN. ESPN attacked us. Funny how one day after the anniversary of Pearl Harbor you cannot see the difference.
 
I'm pragmatic, not play it safe. There is little to gain by doing some kind of ban and more negative attention to gain. This type of fight makes you look petty and nuts and it's not something will produce any positive results.
 
I'm not crazy enough to compare this to Pearl Harbor, drama queen much?
 
Wow. That's not a good idea at all.
Only here would posters want to bring up a 5 year old scandal after we have won a Big Ten championship and shed the sanctions. Just let the thing die already... there is no benefit to talking about it any longer.
 
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I'm not crazy enough to compare this to Pearl Harbor, drama queen much?
So the best way for ESPN to know we are not happy that they lied about us is to say nothing. Got it. Perhaps you should seek appointment as a Business and Industry Trustee.
 
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So, in your view, PREGAME ACTIVITIES on PSU's campus are the same as The Rose Bowl. You did note that we would refuse to play in the Rose Bowl under your comparison, but nobody said anything about refusing to play in any game where Gameday proposed to have their show, did they?

1. What is your definition of "nutjob?"

2. How and why does it harm you if we discuss on this message board the idea of showing ESPN our displeasure by telling it we do not want its fatuous liars disgracing our campus? Isn't this a voluntary endeavor, in which you can simply skip over any discussion you think is beneath your level of wisdom?

3.What is your definition of nutjob again?

I'm not saying it's the same. I believe if those who think that whining, crying and stomping
their feet over a 5 year old scandal (nutjobs) want to continue to embarrass and keep a
negative spotlight on PSU. Then they should go all the way with their petty revenge
wishes. My suggestion would go much further in damaging our reputation than just banning
ESPN Gameday. Of course ESPN might choose not to televise any more of our games.
But why think about the consequences of our actions as long as we demonstrate our displeasure
with them. Sandusky is in prison, Joe is dead and nothing is going to change as far as the scandal is concerned. Anyone waiting for "the truth to come out" might as well put on a tin foil hat, sit on their roof and wait for a UFO to appear.
 
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I'm not saying it's the same. I believe if those who think that whining, crying and stomping
their feet over a 5 year old scandal (nutjobs) want to continue to embarrass and keep a
negative spotlight on PSU. Then they should go all the way with their petty revenge
wishes. My suggestion would go much further in damaging our reputation than just banning
ESPN Gameday. Of course ESPN might choose not to televise any more of our games.
But why think about the consequences of our actions as long as we demonstrate our displeasure
with them. Sandusky is in prison, Joe is dead and nothing is going to change as far as the scandal is concerned. Anyone waiting for "the truth to come out" might as well put on a tin foil hat, sit on their roof and wait for a UFO to appear.
Haa. Ok.
 
Only here would posters want to bring up a 5 year old scandal after we have won a Big Ten championship and shed the sanctions. Just let the thing die already... there is no benefit to talking about it any longer.
It would be great to let it die, but ESPN won't let it die. So instead, let's welcome them onto campus for Gameday so they can bring it up all over again, over and over and over. When the world lets it die, then maybe we will let it die. But as long as they're going to bring it up, we're going to defend ourselves. I'm so glad I was never in a foxhole with you.
 
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Only here would posters want to bring up a 5 year old scandal after we have won a Big Ten championship and shed the sanctions. Just let the thing die already... there is no benefit to talking about it any longer.
If that's the way you feel, no one is standing in your way
So.......go ahead....... STFU

You're welcome
 
After their coverage from Indy, I'm not sure that's really an issue.

How can you 'showcase your brand' when they spend most of the programming talking down your brand and your fans, calling you 'holier than thou' (while referencing Catholics vs Convicts as proof- WTH???), and repeatedly referencing Sandusky. That doesn't help your brand at all. Just the opposite.

It would be better for them to be in Austin, Tallahassee, or anywhere else talking about other things. The brand is enhanced when people actually watch the white out game and Penn St plays well. ;)
 
After their coverage from Indy, I'm not sure that's really an issue.

How can you 'showcase your brand' when they spend most of the programming talking down your brand and your fans, calling you 'holier than thou' (while referencing Catholics vs Convicts as proof- WTH???), and repeatedly referencing Sandusky. That doesn't help your brand at all. Just the opposite.

It would be better for them to be in Austin, Tallahassee, or anywhere else talking about other things. The brand is enhanced when people actually watch the white out game and Penn St plays well. ;)
they're douche bags, my son was there in indy and called out the michigan guy on twitter, reminding him that caths vs cons was nd/miami and the michigan guy blocked him on twitter. what a professional journalist HA
 
I'm not saying it's the same. I believe if those who think that whining, crying and stomping
their feet over a 5 year old scandal (nutjobs) want to continue to embarrass and keep a
negative spotlight on PSU. Then they should go all the way with their petty revenge
wishes. My suggestion would go much further in damaging our reputation than just banning
ESPN Gameday. Of course ESPN might choose not to televise any more of our games.
But why think about the consequences of our actions as long as we demonstrate our displeasure
with them. Sandusky is in prison, Joe is dead and nothing is going to change as far as the scandal is concerned. Anyone waiting for "the truth to come out" might as well put on a tin foil hat, sit on their roof and wait for a UFO to appear.
Cute, but you do realize that the ones whining, crying and stomping their feet over a 5 year old scandal include ESPN, Desmond Howard, Dan Bernstein, and all the other "journalists" and idiots on social media who keep bringing up Sandusky, right?

Did Howard make his Sandusky comments on Saturday in response to some sign that was in the audience? How about all the people on social media who took the opportunity to proclaim that "Joe knew" for decades, just because PSU was playing in the B1G championship? So you think the appropriate response is to huddle off in a corner and meekly whisper we're moving on?
 
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they're douche bags, my son was there in indy and called out the michigan guy on twitter, reminding him that caths vs cons was nd/miami and the michigan guy blocked him on twitter. what a professional journalist HA


Yep. Honestly, how can you ever appear on ESPN as a "college football analyst" if you have no idea what Catholics vs Convicts was? That's as basic as it gets.
 
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Cute, but you do realize that the ones whining, crying and stomping their feet over a 5 year old scandal include ESPN, Desmond Howard, Dan Bernstein, and all the other "journalists" and idiots on social media who keep bringing up Sandusky, right?

Did Howard make his Sandusky comments on Saturday in response to some sign that was in the audience? How about all the people on social media who took the opportunity to proclaim that "Joe knew" for decades, just because PSU was playing in the B1G championship? So you think the appropriate response is to huddle off in a corner and meekly whisper we're moving on?


I have to agree. This isn't an issue of 'whiny, crying, Penn St fans stomping their feet' bringing this up 5 years later.

It was just the opposite in fact.

It was ESPN, Desmond Howard, and the announcers during the game bringing it up 5 years later. (Not to mention the Bernstein's, Francesca's, USA Today (IIRC) with a dedicated article saying "It's ok to cheer for Penn State" and on and on).

Spend 5 minutes looking at what's said about Penn State and it's fans on the USC, Iowa, Nebraska, etc boards. Hell, we had a mini invasion of Tennessee fans with those sentiments today. Those aren't Penn St fans bringing it up.
 
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I have not watched these clowns for years but I understand that they were on their usually anti-PSU bandwagon this past weekend in Indy. With all of the disgraceful behavior this crew has demonstrated in the past 5 years I do not want them anywhere near our campus. Now that we are nationally relevant again I could see them wanting to come here next year when we play Michigan. I think that we should proactively contact Sandy and tell her to say no. Thoughts?
The best way to treat an idiot is to ignore him.
 
Here is what happens if you demand ESPN gives your institution a segment to talk about your truth.

1. They laugh and say, "ok guys, time to pack it up. We're headed to any of the other 24 games involving top 25 teams." Because why would they care, the location isn't really going to affect their ratings and any other campus will accept them with open arms.

2. They release the demand via twitter/radio/Sportscenter/Gameday so that everyone can tweet/make jokes/editorialize/discuss the issue all over again.

So unless some new amazing detail comes to light that completely absolves everyone involved, that wouldn't turn out well for PSU. The fact that some of you think refusing to let them on campus hurts them is pretty hilarious. Until they have any serious competition, they don't need you.
 
Here is what happens if you demand ESPN gives your institution a segment to talk about your truth.

1. They laugh and say, "ok guys, time to pack it up. We're headed to any of the other 24 games involving top 25 teams." Because why would they care, the location isn't really going to affect their ratings and any other campus will accept them with open arms.

2. They release the demand via twitter/radio/Sportscenter/Gameday so that everyone can tweet/make jokes/editorialize/discuss the issue all over again.

So unless some new amazing detail comes to light that completely absolves everyone involved, that wouldn't turn out well for PSU. The fact that some of you think refusing to let them on campus hurts them is pretty hilarious. Until they have any serious competition, they don't need you.
Oh no, please don't pack up and go....please stay, please stay. We love you and we want you to continue to trash our university as frequently as possible.
 
Here is what happens if you demand ESPN gives your institution a segment to talk about your truth.

1. They laugh and say, "ok guys, time to pack it up. We're headed to any of the other 24 games involving top 25 teams." Because why would they care, the location isn't really going to affect their ratings and any other campus will accept them with open arms.

2. They release the demand via twitter/radio/Sportscenter/Gameday so that everyone can tweet/make jokes/editorialize/discuss the issue all over again.

So unless some new amazing detail comes to light that completely absolves everyone involved, that wouldn't turn out well for PSU. The fact that some of you think refusing to let them on campus hurts them is pretty hilarious. Until they have any serious competition, they don't need you.
Hopefully, if you have children, you don't give them similar advice in dealing with abusive relationships. Just shut up and put up with it because you have no other choices, and you need him/her more than he/she needs you.
 
Oh no, please don't pack up and go....please stay, please stay. We love you and we want you to continue to trash our university as frequently as possible.
Never said you should let them on campus, even though I don't think they'd approach the administration unless they were intent on doing a healing/progress/other side of the story type of thing.

Just pointing out how ridiculous it is to believe that PSU has any bargaining power over ESPN. They don't need Penn State to get their message out. If every Penn State Alumni was a daily viewer and visitor to ESPn properties then decided to stop watching ESPN or going to ESPN.com, they'd lose 0.01% of their daily traffic.

They are by far the most watched channel on cable (total 2016, not Q3 when Fox news election coverage was top) and operate a top 100 website, top 50 if you eliminate search engines and porn. They have been losing subscribers, but they still posted increased revenue and operating income until this recent quarter when they took a big hit from NFL and the loss of two of their biggest advertisers, Draft Kings and Fanduel.
 
Hopefully, if you have children, you don't give them similar advice in dealing with abusive relationships. Just shut up and put up with it because you have no other choices, and you need him/her more than he/she needs you.
I sure do. I also tell them to make sure their friends have insurance before playing with any of their toys, that they consult a lawyer before trading their toys or lunch to other kids, and to make sure that they never do anything unless it is personally beneficial. Because you should always raise your kids in the same fashion as you'd conduct business.
 
Cute, but you do realize that the ones whining, crying and stomping their feet over a 5 year old scandal include ESPN, Desmond Howard, Dan Bernstein, and all the other "journalists" and idiots on social media who keep bringing up Sandusky, right?

Did Howard make his Sandusky comments on Saturday in response to some sign that was in the audience? How about all the people on social media who took the opportunity to proclaim that "Joe knew" for decades, just because PSU was playing in the B1G championship? So you think the appropriate response is to huddle off in a corner and meekly whisper we're moving on?

If people from other schools or "journalists" want to act like jerks, that doesn't mean PSU fans have to emulate them. At this point in time, we should be taking the high road and be proudly
celebrating our championship. Instead some want to respond to every negative comment
by wallowing in the mud with the idiots..
 
Never said you should let them on campus, even though I don't think they'd approach the administration unless they were intent on doing a healing/progress/other side of the story type of thing.

Just pointing out how ridiculous it is to believe that PSU has any bargaining power over ESPN. They don't need Penn State to get their message out. If every Penn State Alumni was a daily viewer and visitor to ESPn properties then decided to stop watching ESPN or going to ESPN.com, they'd lose 0.01% of their daily traffic.

They are by far the most watched channel on cable (total 2016, not Q3 when Fox news election coverage was top) and operate a top 100 website, top 50 if you eliminate search engines and porn. They have been losing subscribers, but they still posted increased revenue and operating income until this recent quarter when they took a big hit from NFL and the loss of two of their biggest advertisers, Draft Kings and Fanduel.
I never said (nor did many others) that PSU should bargain with them. PSU should just say no thanks, we don't want Gameday on campus because we're tired of smear campaigns. And who gives a shit if they don't need us...it's not like Gameday not being on campus for the past five years has hurt PSU either. They can continue their love fest with OSU, Michigan and the rest of the programs they admire and keep ignoring us. In case you haven't noticed, we're doing pretty fine without them even with as hard as they're trying to make sure we don't.
 
If people from other schools or "journalists" want to act like jerks, that doesn't mean PSU fans have to emulate them. At this point in time, we should be taking the high road and be proudly
celebrating our championship. Instead some want to respond to every negative comment
by wallowing in the mud with the idiots..
Telling Gameday thanks but no thanks is hardly wallowing in the mud. It would be the principled thing to do...having them on campus would be wallowing in the mud with the idiots.
 
I have to agree. This isn't an issue of 'whiny, crying, Penn St fans stomping their feet' bringing this up 5 years later.

It was just the opposite in fact.

It was ESPN, Desmond Howard, and the announcers during the game bringing it up 5 years later. (Not to mention the Bernstein's, Francesca's, USA Today (IIRC) with a dedicated article saying "It's ok to cheer for Penn State" and on and on).

Spend 5 minutes looking at what's said about Penn State and it's fans on the USC, Iowa, Nebraska, etc boards. Hell, we had a mini invasion of Tennessee fans with those sentiments today. Those aren't Penn St fans bringing it up.

As long as they can get a reaction from PSU fans, they will continue to do so. When PSU
fans ignore them, they will eventually fade away.
 
Your principles need a reevaluation.
Are you really this dumb or are you just posting off the wall shit? If someone beats the crap out of you you don't invite them into your house to do it again. My principles tell me you don't let someone treat you like garbage just for money....but apparently your principles are the opposite. If you have a daughter and some guy beats the hell out of her are you going to tell her just to stay with him? I wouldn't be surprised.
 
As long as they can get a reaction from PSU fans, they will continue to do so. When PSU
fans ignore them, they will eventually fade away.


Respectfully, I don't think it's as simple as that. With some petty Pitt or Rutgers fans I agree that a lot of it is to get a rise out of people. However, scanning the USC board (for example)- the comments are flying.

Those comments aren't aimed at Penn Staters or in trying to get a rise out of PSU fans. They are the internal conversations between Southern Cal fans and how they view Penn State(rs)- even 5 years later.

These comments and attitudes aren't going away if we just pretend it doesn't exist. That's what Karen Peetz thought with her infamous "this will all be forgotten by 2014" statement.

I agree there are some here who take things too far at times. However, the reality is that these comments are the norm of how Penn State is seen nationally.
 
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