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New clock rule after 1st downs not popular.

I don't like it but maybe the 3:30 games will not conflict with the live drawing of the PA lottery anymore.
 
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Hey bro, what network in the US is paying major dollars for international soccer?
Fox/Univision and CBS...last World Cup contract was over a Billion dollars, and the Champions League contract was over a Billion dollars. Though I'm not sure what it really has to do with anything (other than the soccer has embraced advertising more than college football as a means of limiting commercial interruptions).
 
I think people are just complaining about the amount of commercials they see as opposed to any impact to the actual game. TV is paying obscene amounts of money. Tough to complain about them wanting advertising time to sell.

Looking at the games from this weekend. Scoring doesn't seem to be down. Game seem to he shorter. Limited sample size but I don't see an issue.
 
So England can do it with a wayyyy bigger tv rights deal than college football but nope, can't be done here.
Which again has nothing to do with the clock not stopping after a 1st down just you complaining. Comparing soccer which doesn't have any real stops in play to football doesn't make any sense
 
I never understood this rule, TBH. The last two minutes of college football take forever.

Watching Ohio U saturday night, the HC called timeout with :55 left in the half. Ohio had the ball, two timeouts, and were around mid-field with the starting QB knocked out of the game nursing a 6-3 lead against San Diego State. When he called timeout, I thought it was a mistake. low and behold, the QB throws an INT on the next play. The drive started at the OU 35 or so (after the return and a roughing penalty). They scored a TD. The game entered the last five minutes with Ohio being down by a TD or less until 5:30 in the game and lost by 7. This TO was a game changer and probably due to the HC trying to deal with clock management under the new rules. :55 is a lot of time when you have the ball and don't want to give the other team a chance. He'd have been much better off running a play or, at the very least, running the clock down to :35 or so and calling a TO.
 
I never understood this rule, TBH. The last two minutes of college football take forever.

Watching Ohio U saturday night, the HC called timeout with :55 left in the half. Ohio had the ball, two timeouts, and were around mid-field with the starting QB knocked out of the game nursing a 6-3 lead against San Diego State. When he called timeout, I thought it was a mistake. low and behold, the QB throws an INT on the next play. The drive started at the OU 35 or so (after the return and a roughing penalty). They scored a TD. The game entered the last five minutes with Ohio being down by a TD or less until 5:30 in the game and lost by 7. This TO was a game changer and probably due to the HC trying to deal with clock management under the new rules. :55 is a lot of time when you have the ball and don't want to give the other team a chance. He'd have been much better off running a play or, at the very least, running the clock down to :35 or so and calling a TO.
Wait how are you claiming the new rules impacted this with 55 seconds left? The rule didn't change for last 2 minutes of the half.
 
I love major league baseball. Do I want shorter games? Hell No.

I love college football. Do I want shorter games? Hell No.

Just Me.....

See all metrics with MLB...the games were too long. Many people want to watch multiple games on Saturdays. They don't want one running into the next. It's a bad experience.
 
I love major league baseball. Do I want shorter games? Hell No.

I love college football. Do I want shorter games? Hell No.

Just Me.....
I love them both too...and MLB has never been more enjoyable than this season. 4 hour+ college football games were getting ridiculous. These aren't earth shattering changes, but simply ways to try and move things along a bit with eliminating some unnecessary stoppages.
 
I love them both too...and MLB has never been more enjoyable than this season. 4 hour+ college football games were getting ridiculous. These aren't earth shattering changes, but simply ways to try and move things along a bit with eliminating some unnecessary stoppages.
Games were never 4 hours plus...
 
Do you think it helps or hurts psu?
Fewer plays per game would generally increase parity and be worse for favored teams. But the impact shouldn’t be huge for an individual game though over the course of a season you might see more upsets.
 
Something had to be done. College football games were entirely too long with an average of at least 20 minutes longer than nfl.
Few people complain about something they love watching being too long. They tried to fix a problem that doesn't exist for the fans, and did it under the lie of "player safety." We all know they don't care about shortening the broadcast time. They care about squeezing in more ads.

For week 0, an admittedly a small dataset, the number of plays were down 7.8% but the game time was only down 1.4%. That's with a Navy game which runs fast due to their triple option all rushing offense. It's going exactly as planned so far, more commercials. Worse for fans, especially those in the stadium, better for lining the pockets of the media companies.

 
Few people complain about something they love watching being too long. They tried to fix a problem that doesn't exist for the fans, and did it under the lie of "player safety." We all know they don't care about shortening the broadcast time. They care about squeezing in more ads.

For week 0, an admittedly a small dataset, the number of plays were down 7.8% but the game time was only down 1.4%. That's with a Navy game which runs fast due to their triple option all rushing offense. It's going exactly as planned so far, more commercials. Worse for fans, especially those in the stadium, better for lining the pockets of the media companies.


Good info. Thx.
 
Few people complain about something they love watching being too long. They tried to fix a problem that doesn't exist for the fans, and did it under the lie of "player safety." We all know they don't care about shortening the broadcast time. They care about squeezing in more ads.

For week 0, an admittedly a small dataset, the number of plays were down 7.8% but the game time was only down 1.4%. That's with a Navy game which runs fast due to their triple option all rushing offense. It's going exactly as planned so far, more commercials. Worse for fans, especially those in the stadium, better for lining the pockets of the media companies.

why would there be "more commercials" if there is less time and fewer timeouts? Of course, they didn't go to commercial when the clock stopped on first downs before anyway.

I think the games kept taking longer due to more passing and incompletions. That bled into multiple, more often than not, times when the first game had to be broadcast they had to show it while missing the start of the next game (3:30 or 7:00). That created a mess and lost viewers. The most important time is the end and beginning.

Overall, I've got no problem with it. it will allow the defenses to have to defend less field as teams will have to throw to the sidelines to get the clock to stop. Before, they could throw to the line to gain or further making the D cover almost all of the middle of the field.
 
Few people complain about something they love watching being too long.
I absolutely love to golf...I absolutely hate long rounds of golf.

Just because I love something, I don't need it to last as long as possible (*insert Sting joke here*)...college basketball games also need to look at how to fix the end of games, as the video reviews are becoming painful in the last two minutes and extending things longer than they need to be.
 
I watch a lot of football games both college and NFL. Most NFL games barely go over 3 hours thus the 1:00 and 4:00 starts. Almost every college game that starts at 12 goes past 3:30 and those that start at 3:30 go past 7:00. thats a lot of wasted time. This is a step in the right direction. Next would be to stop reviewing every freaking play. Plus half time is about 7 minutes longer in college.
 
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I watch a lot of football games both college and NFL. Most NFL games barely go over 3 hours thus the 1:00 and 4:00 starts. Almost every college game that starts at 12 goes past 3:30 and those that start at 3:30 go past 7:00. thats a lot of wasted time. This is a step in the right direction. Next would be to stop reviewing every freaking play. Plus half time is about 7 minutes longer in college.

I don't see why we would want college football to be "more like" the NFL. The NFL is the inferior product (better talent aside). The fact that teams could stop the clock by being able to get a first down is a feature, not a bug - it was a good thing and one of the cool aspects that helped differentiate college from the NFL and make it more interesting.

The longer halftime is again another good feature. It is what enables the college games to have halftime shows with the bands, which is a big part of the pageantry of college football. That's the one period when I'm okay for the football not being played because there is other entertainment for those in the stands. Jam that time with as many commercials as you want for the people watching on TV.

Few people complain about something they love watching being too long. They tried to fix a problem that doesn't exist for the fans, and did it under the lie of "player safety." We all know they don't care about shortening the broadcast time. They care about squeezing in more ads.

It's all about this. If they are concerned about the games being too long, make the commercial breaks shorter, don't run fewer plays each game.
 
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It’s a very good rule change. Will shorten the games a bit but since the clock will still stop after first downs in the final two minutes it keeps the comeback potential that makes college football so exciting. College is known for its late comebacks and the first down stop clock is huge reason why.

It allows teams without timeouts left to have a chance. It keeps the whole field open instead of just sideline throws like pro ball. It introduces a lot of strategy of not scoring too quickly because even 40 seconds for the other team can be a killer…..think Indiana if it doesn’t hurt too much. Watching players sprint 15-20 yards and try to quickly line up adds a ton of urgency that the fans really feel. And all that chaos often leads to a game ending interception which is either very thrilling or a death knell depending on which side your team falls.

Always wished the pros would do this in the final two minutes. Really keeps things exciting up the end in most games.
 
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I don't see why we would want college football to be "more like" the NFL. The NFL is the inferior product (better talent aside). The fact that teams could stop the clock by being able to get a first down is a feature, not a bug - it was a good thing and one of the cool aspects that helped differentiate college from the NFL and make it more interesting.

The longer halftime is again another good feature. It is what enables the college games to have halftime shows with the bands, which is a big part of the pageantry of college football. That's the one period when I'm okay for the football not being played because there is other entertainment for those in the stands. Jam that time with as many commercials as you want for the people watching on TV.



It's all about this. If they are concerned about the games being too long, make the commercial breaks shorter, don't run fewer plays each game.
How is the NFL an inferior product?
The clock should have never stopped after a first down in college or the pros.
Less plays is also about player safety.
This is just an odd thing for people to be so upset with. It's a relatively minor change that, at best, wasn't necessary
 
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