No Sex Scandal at Penn State, Just A "Political Hit Job"

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. "Grooming" has been attached to this scandal since day one.

Yes, and DPW, CYS and TSM are absolutely responsible for enabling Sandusky and his "Grooming" factories (TSM, Adoption, Foster Parenting, Group Homes, etc...) for decades, including being the subject Primary Care Entity of DPW's seminal complaint that led to the OAG's V1 Investigation, but yet the OAG never thought to investigate TSM.....LMFAO, but you're not sure what Wendy is getting at.....too much!

 

[getmyjive11]

Link please.

The GJP laid out grooming immediately. It talked about how Sandusky used gifts, cash, Eagles games and PSU football practices to lure his victims in. Here is an article from 2011 that specifically calls it "grooming."

http://m.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-N...ate-Figures-head-to-court-in-Sandusky-scandal

 

[indynittany]

The GHP laid out grooming immediately. It talked about how Sandusky used gifts, cash, Eagles games and PSU football practices to lure his victims in. Here is an article from 2011 that specifically calls it "grooming."

http://m.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-N...ate-Figures-head-to-court-in-Sandusky-scandal

To what end? Grooming and acting the part of surrogate father is a pretty blurry line. I certainly think TSM kids spending the night at the Sandusky home is improper on its face, but the house was not that big and there were always foster kids and the adopted kids around. Other than Matt, all of the adopted kids have stood by Jerry and none of the foster kids have come forward to my knowledge. Same with going on road trips to games. IMO, just taking a kid to an Eagles game constitutes EWOC, but he also took kids across state lines to Browns games. Where was the supervision of TSM?

Think of the lunacy of arranging for JS to take kids to the Hilton Garden Inn....after he got his keys to PSU taken away! And after there was an investigation three years earlier! Bruce Heim doesn't do that if he thinks these kids are in danger. That's a lot of liability to assume. He does it because he thinks what Jerry is doing is good for the kids.

I hate that the OAG piled on BS charges to build its case. It makes me question the legitimacy of the whole thing. I highly doubt Sandusky gets a new trial, but he deserves one!

 

[getmyjive11]

To what end? Grooming and acting the part of surrogate father is a pretty blurry line. I certainly think TSM kids spending the night at the Sandusky home is improper on its face, but the house was not that big and there were always foster kids and the adopted kids around. Other than Matt, all of the adopted kids have stood by Jerry and none of the foster kids have come forward to my knowledge. Same with going on road trips to games. IMO, just taking a kid to an Eagles game constitutes EWOC, but he also took kids across state lines to Browns games. Where was the supervision of TSM?

Think of the lunacy of arranging for JS to take kids to the Hilton Garden Inn....after he got his keys to PSU taken away! And after there was an investigation three years earlier! Bruce Heim doesn't do that if he thinks these kids are in danger. That's a lot of liability to assume. He does it because he thinks what Jerry is doing is good for the kids.

I hate that the OAG piled on BS charges to build its case. It makes me question the legitimacy of the whole thing. I highly doubt Sandusky gets a new trial, but he deserves one!

You are still arguing against TSM like that somehow excuses the failures of the admin at PSU. It doesn't. All it means is that TSM skated. And that is wrong and terrible, but it still is not an excuse for CSS.

 

[indynittany]

You are still arguing against TSM like that somehow excuses the failures of the admin at PSU. It doesn't. All it means is that TSM skated. And that is wrong and terrible, but it still is not an excuse for CSS.

I'm arguing that the people directly responsible and presumably qualified to distinguish grooming from nurturing gave those closest to Sandusky no reason to think his behavior could be sexually motivated or that he should be viewed with suspicion. I'm arguing that the mother of each and every Sandusky victim depended on Jack Raykovitz to protect her child and all other TSM children from harm, just as those at Penn State depended on the police, CYS, and the DA, just as every child Jerry and Dottie fostered or adopted depended on the civil servants responsible for their well being.

 

[getmyjive11]

I'm arguing that the people directly responsible and presumably qualified to distinguish grooming from nurturing gave those closest to Sandusky no reason to think his behavior could be sexually motivated or that he should be viewed with suspicion. I'm arguing that the mother of each and every Sandusky victim depended on Jack Raykovitz to protect her child and all other TSM children from harm, just as those at Penn State depended on the police, CYS, and the DA, just as every child Jerry and Dottie fostered or adopted depended on the civil servants responsible for their well being.

No kidding. That still means nothing for CSS. They had the chance to stop the pedo and they failed.

 

[roswelllion]

Your hindsight is a perfect 20/20. Don't mean to speak for Indy but what I take from his comments are in real time EVERY other person connected and many of them [if not all of them] should understand CSA behavior better than TC/GS did nothing.That is not intended to point blame but to explain JS behaviour back then wasn't as clear as you pretend. Imagine TC tells JR enough that they aren't going to allow him on the facilities with kids. JR tells Heim and rather than be concerned he gives him keys to the Hilton garden.

 

[Nit16]

No kidding. That still means nothing for CSS. They had the chance to stop the pedo and they failed.

There's a real movement at Penn State that believes there was absolutely nothing to the victim's charges. As in Jerry Sandusky is innocent of all inappropriate behavior with children. Members like Joedidntknow(or whatever his name is) actually believe nothing occurred. Weird but true.

 

[Mixolydian]

There's a real movement at Penn State that believes there was absolutely nothing to the victim's charges. As in Jerry Sandusky is innocent of all inappropriate behavior with children. Members like Joedidntknow(or whatever his name is) actually believe nothing occurred. Weird but true.

Yes its a real movement sweeping the land up at Penn State. It's all anyone is talking about these days. Thanks for directing this thread, which wasn't about Jerry's guilt or innocence, back to Jerry's guilt or innocence. Free Jerry baby! But with you, jive, LaJolla and a couple of the other solutions in search of a problem, the groundswell just might get stopped in its tracks. Go gettem guys! With any luck, Jerry just might end up behind bars...

And meanwhile, we can all rest comfortably now that the OAG has taken 5 years to hang misdemeanors on 3 PSU administrators, thereby solving the problem and ensuring the future safety of the children on Pa.

Sorry in advance for directing the topic back to what it was about.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Yes its a real movement sweeping the land up at Penn State. It's all anyone is talking about these days. Thanks for directing this thread, which wasn't about Jerry's guilt or innocence, back to Jerry's guilt or innocence. Free Jerry baby! But with you, jive, LaJolla and a couple of the other solutions in search of a problem, the groundswell just might get stopped in its tracks. Go gettem guys! With any luck, Jerry just might end up behind bars...

And meanwhile, we can all rest comfortably now that the OAG has taken 5 years to hang misdemeanors on 3 PSU administrators, thereby solving the problem and ensuring the future safety of the children on Pa.

Sorry in advance for directing the topic back to what it was about.

Weird how you get so defensive over things you say don't apply to your opinions. If you're fine with where Jerry is at, that post you replied to certainly didn't apply to you. Yet you had to chime and call me out because you're somehow feel associated to that post. You feel Jerry is where he belongs, but get upset by anyone that dares to say it? Kind of hypocritical unless you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

 

[Mixolydian]

Weird how you get so defensive over things you say don't apply to your opinions. If you're fine with where Jerry is at, that post you replied to certainly didn't apply to you. Yet you had to chime and call me out because you're somehow feel associated to that post. You feel Jerry is where he belongs, but get upset by anyone that dares to say it? Kind of hypocritical unless you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Upset? LOL. Project much? You don't get it. It's OK.

Or maybe there is a movement at PSU? Good grief.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Upset? LOL. Project much? You don't get it. It's OK.

Or maybe there is a movement at PSU? Good grief.

I got it and that is why I thought it was funny as hell you felt you had to respond there.

 

[Mixolydian]

I got it and that is why I thought it was funny as hell you felt you had to respond there.

You got it but ignored the point. Post a funny picture next time. It's more your speed.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

You got it but ignored the point. Post a funny picture next time. It's more your speed.

Don't talk intelligence when you don't know which side of your mouth you're talking out of. It may just get you even more confused.

 

[Mixolydian]

Don't talk intelligence when you don't know which side of your mouth you're talking out of. It may just get you even more confused.

I made a point. You got defensive and ignored it as usual. You don't even try to debate, you just deflect. Not very self aware but that's OK.

 

[getmyjive11]

Weird how you get so defensive over things you say don't apply to your opinions. If you're fine with where Jerry is at, that post you replied to certainly didn't apply to you. Yet you had to chime and call me out because you're somehow feel associated to that post. You feel Jerry is where he belongs, but get upset by anyone that dares to say it? Kind of hypocritical unless you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

I love how offended some of these people get when you tell them that a convicted serial pedophile is... a serial pedophile. Even some of the ones who claim to not be defending Jerry get pissed off at that. Funny how that works.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

I made a point. You got defensive and ignored it as usual. You don't even try to debate, you just deflect. Not very self aware but that's OK.

Wow, you really don't see how hypocritical your posts are. Just keep calling everyone an idiot or calling people out in posts they never even responded too. Too funny, you really don't even notice how GD hypocritical you are. Good job. Just keep calling people out because you're afraid of some opinions that vary.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

I love how offended some of these people get when you tell them that a convicted serial pedophile is... a serial pedophile. Even some of the ones who claim to not be defending Jerry get pissed off at that. Funny how that works.

Better yet is calling other posters out for someone else's opinion. I know there isn't a Penn State movement, but rather just a few idiots who cannot handle the reality of what occurred. Yet he called me out on it...wonder what has turned him into such a scared SOB lately. People can have differing opinions.

 

[no1lion99]

I have to admit, that's a bad one for Clemente. I find his opinions on this case to be concerning as well. He definitely had reached a point in his career where his credibility was for sale.

His report's fine & all, but I'm unconvinced that he looked very deeply into this, so I tend to discount using him as a source for whether Jerry is guilty.

I believe Clemente went into his report with JERRY'S guilt as a given assumption.

So the anonymous avatar thinks the expert doesn't know what he is doing?

Remember the Clemente report was simply an analysis of the Freeh report, and both of those came out AFTER Jerry's conviction. So assuming his guilt at that point is logical.

 

[no1lion99]

Better yet is calling other posters out for someone else's opinion. I know there isn't a Penn State movement, but rather just a few idiots who cannot handle the reality of what occurred.

I think my favorite line is the "your credibility here is crap, no one listens to you, blah blah". As if the end all be all of one's existence is what some mostly anonymous avatars think of credibility.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

I think my favorite line is the "your credibility here is crap, no one listens to you, blah blah". As if the end all be all of one's existence is what some mostly anonymous avatars think of credibility.

Listen...Tom's board isn't exactly the place you go for credibility...let's be honest. Hell most from the DEN don't even touch this site and other PSU sites simply mock it.

 

[Mixolydian]

Better yet is calling other posters out for someone else's opinion. I know there isn't a Penn State movement, but rather just a few idiots who cannot handle the reality of what occurred.

Go get those few "idiots" while calling other people hypocrites LaJolla. LMFAO. Then maybe go surround the prison. Ole Jer might be planning a jailbreak with an assist from JZ!

 

[coveydidnt]

So the anonymous avatar thinks the expert doesn't know what he is doing?

Remember the Clemente report was simply an analysis of the Freeh report, and both of those came out AFTER Jerry's conviction. So assuming his guilt at that point is logical.

I happen to agree. the expert knows what he is doing & assumed guilt. as do I.

the distinction being that the expert assumed guilt & did not look into facts for/against. Some people throw his name out as though he did.

 

[no1lion99]

I happen to agree. the expert knows what he is doing & assumed guilt. as do I.

the distinction being that the expert assumed guilt & did not look into facts for/against. Some people throw his name out as though he did.

"My analysis is based on my review of the SIC report, grand jury testimony, preliminary hearing testimony, the Sandusky trial transcripts, as well as articles, books, investigative reports, interviews, documents, and my education, training, experience, and expertise in the field of child sexual victimization" - Jim Clemente, Clemente Report

What else was there to look into?

 

[BobPSU92]

Please take this opportunity to use the Ignore feature.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Go get those few "idiots" while calling other people hypocrites LaJolla. LMFAO. Then maybe go surround the prison. Ole Jer might be planning a jailbreak with an assist from JZ!

LOL, keep playing the victim card Mix...you're name calling here has pretty much made the nation apologize and think differently. Woe is you, woe is you...such a victim. The media said mean things and you want them to take it back...maybe stomp your feet louder. It's just no fair...boohooo, boohoo.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Please take this opportunity to use the Ignore feature.

This means I'm a baby and can't handle other opinions...which for Bob and a few other is so true. Sticking your fingers in your ear makes the truth go away!!!!!

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Go get those few "idiots" while calling other people hypocrites LaJolla. LMFAO. Then maybe go surround the prison. Ole Jer might be planning a jailbreak with an assist from JZ!

This guy is well beyond a hypocrite - he blithely and merrily ignores that the corrupt OAG willfully and repeatedly engaged in Prosecutorial Misconduct and Malicious Prosecution on 100% of double-digit Indictments against 3 separate individuals as THIS COURT RULING PROVES beyond any shadow of a doubt.

In addition to this motion, C/S/S also brought motions to have the double-digit Perjury, Obstruction of Justice and Conspiracy Indictments quashed due to the fact that they failed to list legitimate Probable Cause in the Indictment and violated the Defendants Constitutionally-Protected and -Guaranteed Rights! Specifically they enumerated that the Indictments list the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" and its findings as the "Probable Cause" in the listing of particulars in the Indictments (i.e., the OAG's claim that Mike McQueary told the "33rd SWIGJ" that he "saw" and "eyewitnessed" the anal rape of a 10 year old boy that night and REPORTED to JVP, Curley and Schultz that this is what he "SAW" and "EYEWITNESSED".....and because Curley and Schultz testified to the "30th SWIGJ" that Mike McQueary did not report to them that he "saw" and "eyewitnessed" said sexual attack that they were guilty of Perjury, Obstruction of Justice and Conspiracy). They raised in their motion that this was illegitimate "Probable Cause", a clear violation of their Constitutionally-Protected and -Guaranteed Rights and effectively "Malicious Prosecution" BECAUSE:

• Mike McQueary never testified to those things to the "33rd SWIGJ" which produced the Presentment and findings cited in Indictment as the "Probable Cause" AND via citation of the transcript of the actual SWIGJ that Mike McQueary testified to, the same one Curley and Schultz testified to - the "30th SWIGJ" - Mr. McQueary actually testified to the DIAMETRIC OPPOSITE of what The State was claiming in their Indictments as to why Curley's and Schultz's testimony to the "30th SWIGJ" was "Perjurious" and the motivation for the other crimes. Specifically, Mike McQueary stated that HE DID NOT "see" or "eyewitness" what the corrupt, perjurious in their "33rd SWIGJ" claimed (i.e., the OAG claimed the DIAMETRIC OPPOSITE in their intentional misrepresentation of McQueary's "30th SWIGJ Testimony" in the INTENTIONALLY FRAUDULENT "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" and then cited this FRAUDULENT FINDING in their Indictments related to Curley and Schultz (and subsequently Spanier).
• Their motions also cited numerous other FATAL FLAWS and egregious violations of the Defendants' FUNDAMENTAL and sacred Rights tracing all the way to the Republic's Constitution! (things such as Failure to cite or produce a "Corroborating Witness").....and willful Prosecutorial Misconduct / Malicious Prosecution exhibited by the prosecution from the get go of the SWIGJ Process (Here is a LINK to but one of the many, many, many motions on these topics from C/S/S).

C/S/S had appeals pending on all of these CLEARLY meritorious Motions that the CORRUPT PA Judiciary (including the Presiding SWIGJ Judge on the case) originally allowed despite the fact that the conduct was CLEARLY egregious and REPETITIVE FROM THE START "Prosecutorial Misconduct" and a trampling of the MOST SACRED Constitutionally-Protected and -Guaranteed Citizens' Rights imaginable based on simple references to the FACTUAL RECORD of the case! The Appeals Court ruled in favor of the Motion cited at the top of this post quashing all of the Indictments related to Perjury, Obstruction of Justice and Conspiracy relieving them from having to do it for the other clearly enumerated causes listed in the other Motions (IOW, that didn't have to consider the other motions once they already ruled that massive and willful Proseuctorial Misconduct existed and nullified the Indictments!). But this is strong proof according to Bozo Brains of what righteous, ethical and moral beings the lying, corrupt Porn Brigade at the OAG was.....LMFAO at what a disgraceful piece of garbage douche-bag this never ending propagandist bloviator and "Champion and Defender of the Corrupt" is....where is the barf bucket???

 

[LaJolla Lion]

This guy is well beyond a hypocrite - he blithely and merrily ignores that the corrupt OAG willfully and repeatedly engaged in Prosecutorial Misconduct and Malicious Prosecution on 100% of double-digit Indictments against 3 separate individuals as THIS COURT RULING PROVES beyond any shadow of a doubt.

In addition to this motion, C/S/S also brought motions to have the double-digit Perjury, Obstruction of Justice and Conspiracy Indictments quashed due to the fact that they failed to list legitimate Probable Cause in the Indictment and violated the Defendants Constitutionally-Protected and -Guaranteed Rights! Specifically they enumerated that the Indictments list the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" and its findings as the "Probable Cause" in the listing of particulars in the Indictments (i.e., the OAG's claim that Mike McQueary told the "33rd SWIGJ" that he "saw" and "eyewitnessed" the anal rape of a 10 year old boy that night and REPORTED to JVP, Curley and Schultz that this is what he "SAW" and "EYEWITNESSED".....and because Curley and Schultz testified to the "30th SWIGJ" that Mike McQueary did not report to them that he "saw" and "eyewitnessed" said sexual attack that they were guilty of Perjury, Obstruction of Justice and Conspiracy). They raised in their motion that this was illegitimate "Probable Cause", a clear violation of their Constitutionally-Protected and -Guaranteed Rights and effectively "Malicious Prosecution" BECAUSE:

• Mike McQueary never testified to those things to the "33rd SWIGJ" which produced the Presentment and findings cited in Indictment as the "Probable Cause" AND via citation of the transcript of the actual SWIGJ that Mike McQueary testified to, the same one Curley and Schultz testified to - the "30th SWIGJ" - Mr. McQueary actually testified to the DIAMETRIC OPPOSITE of what The State was claiming in their Indictments as to why Curley's and Schultz's testimony to the "30th SWIGJ" was "Perjurious" and the motivation for the other crimes. Specifically, Mike McQueary stated that HE DID NOT "see" or "eyewitness" what the corrupt, perjurious in their "33rd SWIGJ" claimed (i.e., the OAG claimed the DIAMETRIC OPPOSITE in their intentional misrepresentation of McQueary's "30th SWIGJ Testimony" in the INTENTIONALLY FRAUDULENT "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" and then cited this FRAUDULENT FINDING in their Indictments related to Curley and Schultz (and subsequently Spanier).
• Their motions also cited numerous other FATAL FLAWS and egregious violations of the Defendants' Rights (things such as Failure to cite or produce a "Corroborating Witness").....and willful Prosecutorial Misconduct / Malicious Prosecution exhibited by the prosecution from the get go of the SWIGJ Process (Here is a LINK to but one of the many, many, many motions on these topics from C/S/S).

C/S/S had appeals pending on all of these CLEARLY meritorious Motions that the CORRUPT PA Judiciary (including the Presiding SWIGJ Judge on the case) originally allowed despite the fact that the conduct was CLEARLY egregious and REPETITIVE FROM THE START "Prosecutorial Misconduct" and a trampling of the MOST SACRED Constitutionally-Protected and -Guaranteed Citizens' Rights imaginable based on simple references to the FACTUAL RECORD of the case! The Appeals Court ruled in favor of the Motion cited at the top of this post quashing all of the Indictments related to Perjury, Obstruction of Justice and Conspiracy relieving them from having to do it for the other clearly enumerated causes listed in the other Motions (IOW, that didn't have to consider the other motions once they already ruled that massive and willful Proseuctorial Misconduct existed and nullified the Indictments!). But this is strong proof according to Bozo Brains of what righteous, ethical and moral beings the lying, corrupt Porn Brigade at the OAG was.....LMFAO at what a disgraceful piece of garbage douche-bag this never ending propagandist bloviator and "Champion and Defender of the Corrupt" is....where is the barf bucket???

Nobody reads your sh!t. Just an FYI Kim Jung Un. BW week...cheer up and enjoy it. It should be a great recruiting week for PSU.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Nobody reads your sh!t. Just an FYI Kim Jung Un. BW week...cheer up and enjoy it. It should be a great recruiting week for PSU.

Can't respond to listings of the actual FACTUAL RECORD - so we get more more of your weak-@ss, "Defender and Champion of the Corrupt" rhetoric and bull$hit.... You're so predictable tool-boy, but you're not a troll and are only continuously defaming PSU with your rhetoric (and defending/championing the corrupt) out of your never-ending and undying love for PSU.....what a sad little piece of $hit, worthless prick you truly are.

 

[Mixolydian]

LOL, keep playing the victim card Mix...you're name calling here has pretty much made the nation apologize and think differently. Woe is you, woe is you...such a victim. The media said mean things and you want them to take it back...maybe stomp your feet louder. It's just no fair...boohooo, boohoo.

Your typical non-responsive childish banter when you have nothing to address the points. No go back to babysitting. It'll soothe you.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Can't respond to listings of the actual FACTUAL RECORD - so we get more more of your weak-@ss, "Defender and Champion of the Corrupt" rhetoric and bull$hit.... You're so predictable tool-boy, but you're not a troll and are only continuously defaming PSU with your rhetoric (and defending/championing the corrupt) out of your never-ending and undying love for PSU.....what a sad little piece of $hit, worthless prick you truly are.

Let it all out...get it out there. Maybe type OAG some more, yell it loudly a few times. You're about an 8 today on the BODE bat sh!t rant-o-meter. LOL...I'm defaming PSU...awesome. While you on the other hand are making the PSU community look oh so sane. Great stuff.....I need a longer rant to not read...maybe 5000 words...get to it.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Your typical non-responsive childish banter when you have nothing to address the points. No go back to babysitting. It'll soothe you.

Let me know when you make a real point...just do me that favor. In fact, just tell me which of my opinions you actually disagree with since you can't seem to ever put it in an actual post. You're not good at the insult stuff....JV to be honest, so maybe actually try and tell me what you disagree with. Hell I'll list my main POV's.

• Jerry is a pedohile and will die in jail.
• PSU made mistakes including CSS.
• TSM should have been investigated.
• JZ is a radio guy who is an attention whore looking for air time.
• OG BoT did the majority of damage to PSU by making it about football. They pretty much created the witch hunt with the media.
• There was no cover up, but basically one bad decision.
• Screaming TSM screwed up doesn't mean CSS didn't screw up too. For some reason they were allowed to walk...can't change that.
• CSS aren't bad people...good people who made an error in judgement.
• You aren't to blame for this...stop feeling guilty.

Now pick out the ones you don't like or that has your OCD going off with me and explain them to me in a rational manner.

 

[Mixolydian]

Let me know when you make a real point...just do me that favor.

I can type the real points for you, but I can't understand them for you.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

I can type the real points for you, but I can't understand them for you.

I did it for you since you can't seem to...ready my previous post. I know going on the record or having an opinion may scare you, but give it a shot.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Let it all out...get it out there. Maybe type OAG some more, yell it loudly a few times. You're about an 8 today on the BODE bat sh!t rant-o-meter. LOL...I'm defaming PSU...awesome. While you on the other hand are making the PSU community look oh so sane. Great stuff.....I need a longer rant to not read...maybe 5000 words...get to it.

Yea, pointing out that the CORRUPT OAG, aided and abetted by a politically-corrupt PSU OGBOT, engaged in the Malicious Prosecution and defaming of PSU, PSU Football, PSU Athletics, PSU Administrators, the PSU Community at-large and all things PSU out of pure self-interest enabled by wanton abuse of power, corruption and depravity is really making PSU look bad.... Only a piece of $hit scumbag such as yourself could sit here and claim that Championing and Defending an out-of-control, morally- & ethically-corrupt and depraved OAG engaging in Malicious Prosecution against PSU and the PSU Community intended to shift literally billions of dollars of damage onto PSU and the PSU Community while FINANCIALLY AND CRIMINALLY shielding and protecting the parties who are PROVABLY GUILTY of enabling and abetting Sandusky - STILL LEAVING THE CHILDREN OF PA AT RISK - is being done out of undying love for PSU and extreme sanity..... LMFAO, whatever you say jitwad.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Yea, pointing out that the CORRUPT OAG, aided and abetted by a politically-corrupt PSU OGBOT, engaged in the Malicious Prosecution and defaming of PSU, PSU Football, PSU Athletics, PSU Administrators, the PSU Community at-large and all things PSU out of pure self-interest enabled by wanton abuse of power, corruption and depravity is really making PSU look bad.... Only a piece of $hit scumbag such as yourself could sit here and claim that Championing and Defending an out-of-control, morally- & ethically-corrupt and depraved OAG engaging in Malicious Prosecution against PSU and the PSU Community intended to shift literally billions of dollars of damage onto PSU and the PSU Community while FINANCIALLY AND CRIMINALLY shielding and protecting the parties who are PROVABLY GUILTY of enabling and abetting Sandusky - STILL LEAVING THE CHILDREN OF PA AT RISK - is being done out of undying love for PSU and extreme sanity..... LMFAO, whatever you say jitwad.

OAG, SWIJ, CORRUPT OAG, JITWAD, RANT, OAG, GUILTY....grrrrrr go get em tiger!!!!

 

[indynittany]

I love how offended some of these people get when you tell them that a convicted serial pedophile is... a serial pedophile. Even some of the ones who claim to not be defending Jerry get pissed off at that. Funny how that works.

I understand the desire to put JS behind us. A new trial would reopen a lot of wounds. Worse, Sandusky could be set free when he shouldn't be because of the OAG's misconduct. And not everybody who thinks he deserves a new trial believes him to be innocent. However, it remains that a number of the cases appear to be suspect. The methods employed by the prosecution ooze corruption.

Clarity on who and what Sandusky was would go a long way towards putting Penn State's role in this in the proper perspective. And with any luck, it would shed light on the motivations behind the real Penn State scandal.

What was suspected is now known. The OGBOT overreacted badly. Their actions inflicted grave harm to the university. Was their overreaction born of an overdose of political correctness? Did Corbett scam them? How large a role did vindictiveness against Joe play? Or have the numbers been crunched? Has the $250 million price tag actually been deemed an acceptable price to pay to cover up a far more damaging scandal involving PSU, the OAG and TSM?

 

[no1lion99]

Clarity on who and what Sandusky was would go a long way towards putting Penn State's role in this in the proper perspective.

The record very clearly demonstrates who Jerry was, a preferential child sex offender.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Let me know when you make a real point...just do me that favor. In fact, just tell me which of my opinions you actually disagree with since you can't seem to ever put it in an actual post. You're not good at the insult stuff....JV to be honest, so maybe actually try and tell me what you disagree with. Hell I'll list my main POV's.

• Jerry is a pedohile and will die in jail.
• PSU made mistakes including CSS.
• TSM should have been investigated.
• JZ is a radio guy who is an attention whore looking for air time.
• OG BoT did the majority of damage to PSU by making it about football.
• There was no cover up, but basically one bad decision.
• Screaming TSM screwed up doesn't mean CSS didn't screw up too. For some reason they were allowed to walk...can't change that.
• CSS aren't bad people...good people who made an error in judgement.
• You aren't to blame for this...stop feeling guilty.

Now pick out the ones you don't like or that has your OCD going off with me and explain them to me in a rational manner.

More pathetic drivel from the "Defender and Champion of the Corrupt": "OG BoT did the majority of damage to PSU by making it about football.".

Hey dip$hit, this False Narrative was CREATED and jammed down the throats of the gutlless, corrupt PSU OGBOT by none other than your hero Mr. Corrupt Scumbag himself, AG-turned-Governor Corbutt!!! Gee, did you forget that Corbutt did a "Boardroom Putsch" in November 2011 holding a gun to the heads of the cowardly PSU BOT at the time his provably FRAUDULENT "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" was issued by his personally-named, toady, servile lame-duck AG via National Press Conference - including "Most Wanted" posters of two PSU Admins who the court system says was FALSELY ACCUSED of double-digit felonies via illegitimate Indictments and PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT directly attachable to that INTENTIONALLY FRAUDULENT "33rd SWIGJ Presentment"???

Now, you want to claim that this CLEARLY and INTENTIONALLY FRAUDULENT NARRATIVE (i.e., the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" and it's accompanying bull$hit Indictments) was created by the "PSU OGBOT"??? Only an imbecile, low-life, piece of garbage such as yourself could make the claim that this clearly intentionally FRAUDULENT NARRATIVE (and invented for corrupt purposes) in regards to McQueary ever saying he "saw" and "eyewitnessed" the anal-rape of a 10 year old the night of 2/9/2001 was the creation of "PSU's OGBOT", when it is beyond obviously clear where this INTENTIONALLY FRAUDULENT NARRATIVE for the purpose of Maliciously Prosecuting a University to the tune of billions of dollars of damage (while protecting the TRUE CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE ENABLERS & ABETTORS of Sandusky and his sick supposedly CHARITABLE SCHEMES to access children) came from! It is quite obvious that the INTENTIONALLY FRAUDULENT NARRATIVE was born in the grossly corrupt hallways of the Pennsylvania Government and Judiciary with the prime-mover scumbag being Tom Corbutt and his Porn Brigade Criminal Prosecutors and Investigators!!! But don't let FACTS get in the way of your continued bull$hit spin, "Defender and Champion of the Corrupt" rhetoric and propaganda @sshole!