Because duals are matchup based. tOSU had 5 favorites Michigan only had 2.
Michigan’s big guns matched up against our big guns which is not a good recipe. While tOSU had their Big guns not matched up with our except at 197
Ohio State too Hyped?
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Because duals are matchup based. tOSU had 5 favorites Michigan only had 2.
Michigan’s big guns matched up against our big guns which is not a good recipe. While tOSU had their Big guns not matched up with our except at 197
Not too much but, IMO, there were still some lingering effects from the injury. RBY wrestled smart, the elevator move was sweet, and he went hard for nine minutes. No gas tank issues, and it was a nice win. But when RBY’s 100%, I think he’ll get a takedown or two vs. Pletcher.
Agree on the spotlight part -- some guys just react differently on game day no matter what you do. Some guys can work through it, some can't. Some can in some situations, but if they blink, they're lost.
McKenna Is going to try to tie up Nick to slow down and control the pace, in subsequent meetings, hopefully Nick does not allow that to happen and pushes him as hard as possible.
For those who haven't seen it, here's a short video of the team warming up (pretty cool):
https://www.roarlionsroar.com/penn-...armup-mark-hall-blocked-kick-ohio-state-video
Love the recent rivalry with Ohio State, but do get the feeling they are riding on our coattails a bit, especially with all the talk on Friday about the two best teams in college wrestling. I guess it depends on the timeframe. Certainly Ohio State was 2nd best last year, and since their national championship in 2015, you can claim that they have been solidly #2, but the gap between #2 and the rest of the pack (Iowa, Okie State, etc.) seemed to be smaller than the gap between #1 and #2.
And if you go back longer, 8-10 years, the argument for #2 is much cloudier. I’m interested in what Ohio State does this year and next year. I think #2 is totally up for grabs this year, and while we are focused on Penn State post Nickal and Nolf, Ohio State loses three of there top 4 this year, and I don’t see a Kyle Snyder/Myles Martin type in their line-up. I know they have recruited top-level talent, but it will be very young next year.
And if you go back longer, 8-10 years, the argument for #2 is much cloudier. I’m interested in what Ohio State does this year and next year. I think #2 is totally up for grabs this year, and while we are focused on Penn State post Nickal and Nolf, Ohio State loses three of there top 4 this year, and I don’t see a Kyle Snyder/Myles Martin type in their line-up. I know they have recruited top-level talent, but it will be very young next year.
You certainly got that one right. I got a stern talking to from him just yesterday about how I ought to react to things as a fan. Some people (apparently me included) just don't know how to think for themselves, I guess.
Woulda coulda shoulda, if's and's or buts. It wasn't OHST's night for whatever reason and I'm not sure if anything they would have done differently could have changed the outcome enough for them to get the W. PSU came to wrestle. That is hard to stop.
Ryan should have tanshirted Martin and McKenna this year (assuming they would've gone along).
Even with losing Jordan (for Sasso), they'd be at least as good with Kerkvliet and Kharchla replacing Singletary and Campbell. And we'd lose Jason and Bo.
Not a guarantee that they'd win, but much better odds than this year.
Yeah maybe on the redshirts, but he did wrestle them, and they won’t be back now. They have some young studs, but even young studs require some seasoning. Other than Moore, who it a legit national title contender. Fletcher is a top 5 guy, but don’t see him winning it all. Iowa looks better on paper next year and don’t know how young Okie State is, but next year looks to be pretty open for the top spots.
What are you even talking about!? If the tOSU boys were any more loose, rowdy and fun-loving before a match they'd probably get sent to detention and be made to use their inside voices.
I try my best to avoid those types of arguments. Over on HR not so much.
To be honest, I live vicariously through Lemonpie while I'm here. Sometimes I feel bad that he's alone in taking the beatings for saying the things that I actually agree with him on.
Actually, no.. I dont feel bad about it at all..
I've gotten banned on HR vicariously thru you.
Anyone who has ever competed will probably agree that mental exhaustion is worse than physical exhaustion. When you listen to hype and more hype for days or weeks and keep being told...."This is your moment" "This is your chance"...……..and you are wrestling at home.....the adrenaline flows........and then RBY goes out and wins the first match. That adrenaline dump is real and the pressure magnifies. Good things usually don't happen after that. You saw it last year with Tomasello and Snyder ( over anxious ). It happened again this year I believe. Cael doesn't get enough credit for NOT overcoaching in the big moments. KISS...…..Keep it Simple Stupid is hard to do when the cameras are rolling.
Very True. You saw it. I saw it......and worst of all......his wrestlers saw it too. Guaranteed. That is why Cael is soooooo Good at what he does.
That monkey's will actually fly out of Coach Ryan's rear end?
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very wel
very well could be the case--just more prove that Tan Tom is a step or 3 behind Cael
so true! just like Nick Lee said..wrestle hard for 7 min! tank issues really come into it at tourney time
Was anyone else where I was in the Lee McKenna match 1/2 through the 3rd?
When Nick took him down to make it 5-5 and was riding hard you could see McKenna fading. My first thought was ride out the remaining 1:20 or so and get the extra 1 point that way, but what I can't remember was where riding time stood at that moment.
Of course RT clock independent, Cael & Co could see Nick's tank had plenty and McKenna was approaching empty, so they signaled to let him up almost immediately.
You got to love our style and Cael's mind set. What I don't know is if they gave up what could have been the deciding RT point, to give McK the lead knowing that Nick was going to have his way from that point forward.
Ballzy and impressive either way.
When Nick took him down to make it 5-5 and was riding hard you could see McKenna fading. My first thought was ride out the remaining 1:20 or so and get the extra 1 point that way, but what I can't remember was where riding time stood at that moment.
Of course RT clock independent, Cael & Co could see Nick's tank had plenty and McKenna was approaching empty, so they signaled to let him up almost immediately.
You got to love our style and Cael's mind set. What I don't know is if they gave up what could have been the deciding RT point, to give McK the lead knowing that Nick was going to have his way from that point forward.
Ballzy and impressive either way.
Lee should have beaten him last year also. I will give props to McKenna for still working his offense even when gassed. Nick's last two take downs were the result of tired shots by McKenna, so he didn't run.
The worst thing was for Ryan to draw to see where things would start. He had a chance to start with their best shot at a guaranteed win and rolled the dice instead. His quirky games he plays leads his team down the wrong mental path. You don’t need quirky games to do your best.
The tying takedown was crisp, powerful, and energetic. After Nick had him down, McKenna's head was on the mat, worn out face looking towards Cael. Seconds later, Nick looked over to the bench, which was already calling for the cut. They knew.
With 20/20 rear view vision, watch McKenna as he stands up from Nick cutting him loose. He's not on stable legs. Yes, he took that shot, but it lacked anything close to what was needed to take Nick down at that time.
My dad said that he wasn't happy when Nick cut him loose, but I told him, "If Nick has that kind of trust in his coaches, you should too."
Not sure this is true. Ryan said McKenna had a hard cut from his injury recovery. Random draw gives him 70% chance at extra time to eat, hydrate, and rest.
Of course Ryan rolled snake eyes, but that doesn't make it a bad gamble.
> PSUbluTX wrote:
I don’t understand. How does dressing up as Handmaids help a team win?
TaTo’s robe decision is a metaphor for his results against PSU. On paper it looked like a winning concept, but when it came time to execute the plan, not so much.
All true and good reasoning. I’m not a wrestler or coach, but rolling the dice, he could have started with our Murderer’s Row, and been behind by a mile. He had to feel good about the first four..... take them. Have the crowd into it. Get lucky when our guys were having to press.
In the end, none of it mattered........which is fine by me.
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Thinking back on this display. That was real ballsy(mildly put I understand) to don the robes in the Rec! Damn, I love Ryan!!!!!What are you even talking about!? If the tOSU boys were any more loose, rowdy and fun-loving before a match they'd probably get sent to detention and be made to use their inside voices.
I believe that a team can take on the characteristics of their coaching staff. Watch Tom Ryan on the bench being emotional, high strung, and combative compared to Cael's stoic demeanor.
The Ohio State Tampons.
Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome ...
... the Ohio State Red Dementors ...
I think there is definitely truth to this. The one thing that you notice about our entire team is that the moment, whatever it might be, never seems too big for them. Facing a prohibitive favorite like Gabe Dean as a RS So, or going up against a perceived future 4 Timer in Imar as a RS FR would be too daunting for 99.9% of athletes. That said time and again kids up and down our lineup rise to the occasion. Sure they're all great talents, but its pretty obvious to anyone outside of HR that there is a little more going on here than just talent.
This is where I'm at after scouring the rankings, lineups and depth charts today. After Micah underwrestles his seed this year, and even if MyMar wins and McKenna places top-3, it seems more likely that next year's tOSU squad outpoints this year's.
I noticed also that after the match Nick was bouncing around like he was ready for 7 more minutes, while McKenna barely dragged his butt back to the center.
Are they may monkeys lol. Meaning the brands brothersThat monkey's will actually fly out of Coach Ryan's rear end?
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