OSU Rumors

[McScoreley]

If David is offered the Oklahoma State job, he would be dumb not to take it.

That being said, they would just be keeping him warm for us long term and giving him the HC experience

 

[Random4598375]

I almost posted in there that the “Fix to PSU” rumor must be a new replacement for the perpetually failed “Fix to 125” rumor . . . but then I saw the post speculating once again about slotting Fix in at 125 next year and figured I should keep my big yapper shut.

[Someone please post the Farley gif/meme]

Here's all the idiocy rolled into a single post:

Fix to Penn State to wrestle 125 because Robbie is done.

 

[El-Jefe]

One thing I’ll note on the 57kg/125 discussion. Daton really isn’t that big of a guy.

The hair adds an extra 8 lb.

 

[PSU Mike]

Doesn’t Kendra run a juice shop, K2?

 

[El-Jefe]

Doesn’t Kendra run a juice shop, K2?

Must ... resist ... Fix's dad joke ...

 

[PSU Mike]

Must ... resist ... Fix's dad joke ...

Uh, yeah …

 

[ss7]

If David is offered the Oklahoma State job, he would be dumb not to take it.

That being said, they would just be keeping him warm for us long term and giving him the HC experience

I don't think so.

Based on the salary numbers discussed on that OSU board, how David has seemingly set himself up for the long-term in State College, and what taking a HC job right now would mean for his still-ongoing career...doesn't seem like it would be that hard.

On top of that, is OSU a good job to take right now? If Smith is being run out of there, I have a hard time believing he's leaving behind a great situation. Then throw in all the boosters and "pressures" from the broad OSU wrestling community...doesn't seem like an ideal opportunity for someone's first college coaching gig.

 

[Ja1339]

Except for this:

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John’s gotta be thinking, geez am I the last one to get the word about my firing 🤔

 

[pawrestlersintn]

There are some great posts in that thread.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Defiantly rumblings in Tulsa.

Yep. I reported from the arena that an alum had told me that there was a group of alumni out for John.

 

[WrestleEveryDay]

Probably the Outsiders again...those boys are trouble. Soda Pop, Pony Boy, Dallie, 2 Bit, etc...

RIP Johnny

 

[creamery freak]

He'd slot in nicely as a BTN and Nationals wrestling announcer. I always enjoy his knowledge of wrestling on the freestyle circuit.

 

[El-Jefe]

On top of that, is OSU a good job to take right now? If Smith is being run out of there, I have a hard time believing he's leaving behind a great situation. Then throw in all the boosters and "pressures" from the broad OSU wrestling community...doesn't seem like an ideal opportunity for someone's first college coaching

I also doubt Taylor takes it.

But most of this paragraph could be said about PSU when we hired Cael -- the biggest differences being (1) PSU alumni pressure to merely beat Lehigh, (2) OKST already having a national recruiting profile.

 

[El-Jefe]

Yep. I reported from the arena that an alum had told me that there was a group of alumni out for John.

But how many and how influential?

We have a Board of Trustees member who undercuts Franklin at every opportunity, and still there's no job security issue.

 

[ss7]

I also doubt Taylor takes it.

But most of this paragraph could be said about PSU when we hired Cael -- the biggest differences being (1) PSU alumni pressure to merely beat Lehigh, (2) OKST already having a national recruiting profile.

I'm by no means an expert, or even particularly knowledgeable, about PSU program specifics, but I never got the impression the PSU room had personnel issues (like are being rumored at OSU) at the time, nor was the program dealing with replacing a coaching/program legend.

 

[mcpat]

Lots of ifs here, but if Smith is out and I’m the OkSt AD, my first call is to Mike Grey.

And if I’m Mike Grey, I’m very tempted to take it.

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Lots of ifs here, but if Smith is out and I’m the OkSt AD, my first call is to Mike Grey.

And if I’m Mike Grey, I’m very tempted to take it.

Why? Isn't he a Cornell alum?

 

[mcpat]

Why? Isn't he a Cornell alum?

From OkSt: experience running a program, high level of success doing so

From Mike Grey: There is only so much he can do at Cornell, and he’s done it. At OkSt, he’d have the resources to compete with PSU.

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

From OkSt: experience running a program, high level of success doing so

From Mike Grey: There is only so much he can do at Cornell, and he’s done it. At OkSt, he’d have the resources to compete with PSU.

Yeah that's fair I guess. I see him not wanting to leave Shapiro. The kid is legit.

 

[Random4598375]

From OkSt: experience running a program, high level of success doing so

From Mike Grey: There is only so much he can do at Cornell, and he’s done it. At OkSt, he’d have the resources to compete with PSU.

Cornell is a hell of a lot closer to PSU than Ok St.

 

[tullfan68]

Taylor is set in Pa now not going anywhere!

 

[tullfan68]

Must ... resist ... Fix's dad joke ...

fix and Cael would tell him NO JUICE FOR YOU!

 

[mcpat]

Cornell is a hell of a lot closer to PSU than Ok St.

OkSt is a sleeping giant right now,
IMO.

 

[Split shot]

Yeah that's fair I guess. I see him not wanting to leave Shapiro. The kid is legit.

Well...He could take him along. Happens all the time.

 

[mcpat]

Yeah that's fair I guess. I see him not wanting to leave Shapiro. The kid is legit.

One of the allowable transfers is for those not on scholarship.

 

[El-Jefe]

I'm by no means an expert, or even particularly knowledgeable, about PSU program specifics, but I never got the impression the PSU room had personnel issues (like are being rumored at OSU) at the time, nor was the program dealing with replacing a coaching/program legend.

Not to this extent, but there were some guys who got in legal trouble, some who partied during the season, etc.

And then when Cael banned in-season drinking, a starter got taken out for his 21st birthday. A few other guys went home on offseason weekends and drank there. Etc. Full team buy-in took some time.

 

[PSUbluTX]

OkSt is a sleeping drunken giant right now,

FIFY

 

[El-Jefe]

OkSt is a sleeping giant right now,
IMO.

Sleeping at 1 pm CT? Must've been a really good night.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Sleeping at 1 pm CT? Must've been a really good night.

The program works nights

 

[amattaro]

I have a feeling Casey is the highest paid assistant coach in the land (or second to Cody) and Cael is not in fact the highest paid HC. Gonna be tough to break up that band, but I suppose money can always do the talking. David is interesting--but I can't see him wanting to divide his attention in the next couple of years.

I mostly feel sad if this is how John will go out. In spite of all the jokes, I've always really liked the guy.

I was told by a parent of a current 3x national champ that he asked Casey during recruiting of his son why Casey is not a head coach. Casey said he wants to do his work on the mat and not have to deal with all of the extras that come with being a head coach.

 

[Random4598375]

Well...He could take him along. Happens all the time.

It's possible, but these kids do go to school for an education, too, and I can't see a kid who just got into Cornell transferring to Ok St. LOL.

 

[McScoreley]

I was told by a parent of a current 3x national champ that he asked Casey during recruiting of his son why Casey is not a head coach. Casey said he wants to do his work on the mat and not have to deal with all of the extras that come with being a head coach.

This, Casey loves his role at Penn State. Beyond being what he wants to do, it helps Cael makes sure he is very well compensated and also constantly heaps praises on him as equally as important to the dynasty. Perhaps I think the most symbolic thing done was during DT's biggest moment (Olympic Gold) of his career, Cael wanted him cornering his prodigal son and he just sat in the stands like a proud father.

 

[McScoreley]

If Fix wants his title, he has to go 125 where it’s virtually open (even if he is gassed) I don’t know how anyone watched his match against Vito and think there’s a scenario that result is ever flipped.

 

[js8793]

If Fix wants his title, he has to go 125 where it’s virtually open (even if he is gassed) I don’t know how anyone watched his match against Vito and think there’s a scenario that result is ever flipped.

How can you look at Vito's career and think any of his results can't be flipped? People said the same thing after he nearly teched Pat Glory. Lost to him 2 weeks later. Even this year, he failed to bonus 30 seed Rotundo first round and was in a dog fight with Latona in the quarters (who also beat him this year). Then he went out and destroyed Fix and RBY. How do you make sense of that? You never know which Vito shows up.

 

[Psugo823]

RIP Johnny

Stay golden Johnny

 

[Psugo823]

Did anyone spot Cherry Valence?

She dumped Dallie for A.J. Ferrari

 

[El-Jefe]

It's possible, but these kids do go to school for an education, too, and I can't see a kid who just got into Cornell transferring to Ok St. LOL.

Joey McKenna might disagree.

 

[nerfstate]

Joey McKenna might disagree.

An Ohio State degree has to be worth more than an OK St one though, right? At least like free soup from Panera or something?

 

[Random4598375]

Joey McKenna might disagree.

Stanford -> tOSU is a lot less jarring than Cornell -> Ok St.

 

[tullfan68]

OkSt is a sleeping giant right now,
IMO.

yea and they been sleeping for yrs now!