Yep. When Vito is on he’s as good as anyone in the world but you don’t get that guy all the time. Drastically different results from week to week and like JS pointed out even in the same tournament. I thought it was weight related last year when he had such crazy differing result’s against Glory but then this year he had a few head scratchers as well even if he won most of them. The guy that demolished Fix and RBY would bonus through the season most likely but unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your view) we don’t always get that version of Vito.
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I know a degree helps but McKenna is a guy that basically has the connections and intelligence to just do whatever he wants in the long term anyways. His goal is international wrestling right now. After he hangs it up, he can basically still do whatever he wants.
Diane Lane is still all world
Yeah, but that BOT member is generally too busy standing in the back of the Lion's Den looking to snag a 21 year-old drunken co-ed to put forth a concentrated effort to do any damage to Franklin or PSU football.
It's funny, last year in Detroit our loge was next to Cornell folks including Kaille. Down a couple suites were some Princeton fans. According to the Princeton people, Pat Glory was just coming off a bad illness when he got mopped by Vito. According to the Cornell faithful, Vito was sick for a week between the conference tournament and NCAAs.
It just goes to show, when your guy loses, he was most likely sick.
With Mike Grey… (and Koll before him)…. It’s a case of what could he do where he can redshirt instead of greyshirt, have a higher acceptance rate, give scholarships, etc. I also assume the NIL situation is better. I’m sure his pay would be.
If I’m wrong about the NIL situation being better at OkSt, then it’s not as attractive of a change as I currently think.
Koll and then Grey have done wonders where it shouldn’t be possible to compete for a podium spot year in / year out and be second to only Cael in individual championships since Cael started.
Finally, while I think DT and others could be incredible head coaches, you’d be crazy to hire someone with zero experience running / assisting with running a college program. It’s more than just teaching technique and name recognition for recruiting. You have to learn how to a run a program (as an assistant) first.
If I’m wrong about the NIL situation being better at OkSt, then it’s not as attractive of a change as I currently think.
Koll and then Grey have done wonders where it shouldn’t be possible to compete for a podium spot year in / year out and be second to only Cael in individual championships since Cael started.
Finally, while I think DT and others could be incredible head coaches, you’d be crazy to hire someone with zero experience running / assisting with running a college program. It’s more than just teaching technique and name recognition for recruiting. You have to learn how to a run a program (as an assistant) first.
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Since the post was about John Smith. He had probably the nastiest finish on a single leg that I have ever seen. He would not finish by raising leg and tripping his opponent to mat. He would go out on side and push knee inward putting his shoulder just above the knee. He was lethal from his feet.
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One more than it took for GIA’s thread about Okie State to disparage Warner.
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https://oklahomastate.forums.rivals.com/threads/so-is-anybody-hearing-anything-on-changes.122434/ Rumors of a potential shake up regarding the coaching staff and some wrestlers leaving.
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One thing to keep in mind out the Ivy league schools, if the school wants to support an olympic sports program, it can be extremely competitive because they can offer incredible financial aid packages.
For example, a family I know, one of their kids was a top 10 recruit in the country in an Olympic sport within the last 5 years. He was offered by a B1G school a 33% scholarship, leaving the price tag at $35K to $40K a year. B1G school had great facilities for the sport and is one of the top 3 programs in the B1G.
Ivy league school financial aid package resulted in a price tag of $15,000 a year. A few years later when a younger sibling started college, the price tag would be $7,500 a year. The Ivy league school had a very good olympic sports program, top 25 in the country.
Easy decision where to attend college.
Cornell being really good at wrestling is not a shock, they support the program.
Munchies and cutting - not good
Couldn’t agree with this more. Same reason I call Cary Kolat. Deep ties to Pa recruiting. Success at Campbell. Ability to recruit kids without the restraints of the schools bureaucracy.
Since the Center of the Wrestling Universe is moving to State College, does Casey really want to leave? Why would he take over the headaches of a HC job, when he can stay put and develop kids that are starting at M2, moving to PSU to win NCAA championships, then not even move from the same room to chase Olympic dreams. I just don't see it.
The Cowboys have to change things up and do it now. I don't think there first choice is one of there alumni. If it turns out to be Scott that probably means that they couldn't get a PSU guy. My guess is some big money is being offered to someone in State College right now and they are waiting for an answer.
Casey will never leave Cael. There is genuine love there and Cael makes sure everyone knows how highly he thinks of Casey! Cael, Casey, Cody and Jake running the NLWC is the dream team. I don't see them separating in the foreseeable future.
I was thinking the same thing. Cary would be a great hire for OSU if they dumps Smith.
That, plus 5 kids. 5 (1 is a senior) still in SC school system, as well as different SC area athletic activities. Plus Cael has been exceptionally aggressive in ensuring his staff is well compensated, even taking a smaller slice to make sure all is good financially with the staff. On top of that, he freaking loves it here.
He's not wrong because he didn't say "best ever" -- Smith retired before Cael went to college.
He's on the Mount Rushmore for sure. Get him in the TV booth. He's awesome during the Olympics.
I think this is wrong on a couple fronts.
1) OSU has incredible tradition, but have been complaining for years about a lack of resources from the athletic department. It's not comparable to PSU. They've made some recent committments, but I'm not sure it's considerably better than Cornell.
2) Cornell is arguably the best recruiting situation in wrestling. They are not beholden to 9.9. They have a strong modern tradition with a great local fanbase. It's close to several recruiting hot beds whereas OSU is only close to Oklahoma.
If I had to pick, I'd pick the Cornell job.
It's funny. Our son lives in upstate NY and we have attended a couple "marquee" duals at Cornell over the last 8 years - Lehigh in a year were the top two teams in the EIWA and, ironically, Oklahoma State. The attendance at both was suprisingly, if not shockingly, low. Nowhere near a sellout for either meet.
Ya, I’d hardly say they have great local support. Their wrestling arena looks like a high school gymnasium. Not even hardcore college wrestling fans see much of Cornell outside of the 3 days of Nationals. We are spoiled with BTN & BTN+.
Yes. We were expecting a packed house both times. It was quite disappointing. I can't imagine what it's like when a middling EIWA opponent is in town there.
2a) Cornell has a strong financial aid plan for low/middle income families, so that many pay little or no tuition. It's often more expensive to attend another school with an athletic scholarship + in-state tuition.
From OSU alum I’m taking Pat Pop. I’ve always liked his demeanor and what he’s turned NC State into
Coleman Scott is a pretty big name and that would be a demotion
It's a demotion unless the contract also stipulates he's the head coach in 1 year.
Otherwise, agreed, why would he even consider something like that?
