Help me out with the “not beholden to 9.9” (as they offer 0.0) and the “great local fanbase” that averages 450 fans per home dual (43rd in D1) to OkSt’s 4,631 per home dual (3rd in D1).
Did you just use basketball to explain wrestling on a wrestling forum? Just checking.
It's not a good analogy, either. It's more like coaching football at TCU vs coaching football at Nebraska. One is good now, the other has the history and I suppose the ability to potentially return to former glory but have been buried for a long time and are currently a long way from the top.Did you just use basketball to explain wrestling on a wrestling forum? Just checking.
Because his wife is from OK and that’s where they want to be.
Agreed -- if his contract states he'll be the head coach within a reasonable period of time.
I think a good analogy is Cornell vs Penn State in the 2000s before Cael. And the rumor was that Koll was coming before Cael through his hat in the ring.
If Grey is offered Oklahoma State and stays at Cornell, it's because they're just East Coast people.
The Finger Lakes Area is about as good as it gets 8 months a year.
He seemed to be knocking in 2021 but candidly, COVID might have been the best thing to happen to him since it forcibly shortened his season which prevented the normal burnouts and injuries. They also benefitted big time from numerous things that year that made them appear a lot closer to PSU than they were.
They were 3rd in 2021, 2019, and 2016 while they took 2nd in 2017. Not maybe up to their old standards but that’s not horrible. This past year was a disaster that’s for sure and I do think they should move on from Smith. If they are going to stay in the OSU coaching tree I think Pendleton is the best choice. He’s done a great job at Oregon State.
"Not to be too disrespectful, but he's been trash."
Respectfully disagree. Spent 4 years there and winter was rough from November through March. Plus the 2nd half of October and 1st half of April weren't exactly great; June to August are nice.
This is a much better recent record than I realized. 4 podiums in the last 7 tourneys. A 3rd just two years ago. Hard to believe they’re getting rid of Smith.
And if you grew up in PA but lived in San Diego for 30 years, you wouldn’t want to live in the Finger Lakes, PA or Siberia!
It was a whapping 12 degrees today on my way to work and we got snow again last night. I'm over winter.And if you grew up in PA but lived in San Diego for 30 years, you wouldn’t want to live in the Finger Lakes, PA or Siberia!
Compare placement vs Cornell even just the last decade. Cornell has been worse without the past glory.
Looking at the past decade only, I don't think I would agree. Kind of depends on how you look at it.
This is true, but think of it like this:
If you say so.
Of course, there is this in 2023 (all of the Cornell vs. Oklahoma State matches):
So what’s your take on Grey’s hypothetical interest level in the hypothetical OK State job?Of course, there is this in 2023 (all of the Cornell vs. Oklahoma State matches):
- Semifinal - Vito Arujau (Cornell) 25-1 won by major decision over Daton Fix (Oklahoma State) 30-2 (MD 11-3)
- Quarterfinal - Chris Foca (Cornell) 29-2 won by fall over Dustin Plott (Oklahoma State) 25-7 (Fall 1:54)
- Cons. Round 3 - Jacob Cardenas (Cornell) 20-6 won by decision over Luke Surber (Oklahoma State) 23-10 (Dec 12-5)
I lived in both places I will take PA any day!but that's just me!!And if you grew up in PA but lived in San Diego for 30 years, you wouldn’t want to live in the Finger Lakes, PA or Siberia!
It isn't every day you run into someone who has lived in Siberia AND lived to talk about it.
Here are the data going back to 2009 (first year on the PSU Wrestling Club's site).
| Cornell | OKST | |||
| Year | Place | Pts | Place | Pts |
2009 | 5 | 73.5 | 16 | 34.0 |
2010 | 2 | 90.0 | 6 | 65.0 |
2011 | 2 | 93.5 | 4 | 70.5 |
2012 | 4 | 102.5 | 6 | 66.0 |
2013 | 5 | 65.0 | 2 | 119.5 |
2014 | 7 | 53.0 | 3 | 96.5 |
2015 | 5 | 71.5 | 7 | 66.0 |
2016 | 7 | 67.0 | 2 | 97.5 |
2017 | 8 | 60.5 | 3 | 103.0 |
2018 | 7 | 48.0 | 14 | 37.5 |
2019 | 7 | 59.5 | 3 | 84.0 |
2021 | N/A | N/A | 3 | 99.5 |
2022 | 7 | 54.5 | 14 | 38.5 |
2023 | 3 | 76.5 | 19 | 28.5 |
| Avg | 5.3 | 70.4 | 7.3 | 71.9 |
| High | 2 | 102.5 | 2 | 119.5 |
| Low | 8 | 48.0 | 19 | 28.5 |
| STDEV | 2.1 | 16.6 | 5.9 | 29.3 |
It’s funny because I see it kind of the opposite.
On the other hand, who of all their excellent recruits who were able to be accepted at Cornell would have turned up that opportunity and gone to Oklahoma State?
Oh I think there are kids that have turned down Cornell for Okie State/Iowa/PSU/etc.
As my oldest granddaughter said to me when she was about 5, "gee Pap, if it weren't for Christmas and wrestling winter would be totally useless."
Absolutely correct... And my birthday is in there somewhere.
And wrestle with the club.
